todd_spehr35 wrote:Couple of very interesting ones there. Gervin in '78 seems an odd one. Parish in '83--was that perhaps Fitch-related? And Olajuwon "survived" two trade demands for the better.
Oscar was in the last year of a contract, the word being he was going to want big money in his next one, something Cousy and Axelson were reluctant to give him. Besides, there was also some speculation he was going to jump to the ABA. At first, Cousy tried to trade him to Baltimore for Gus Johnson. Robertson, who had veto power over any trade, said no. Eventually, he was traded to the Milwaukee Bucks for Flynn Robinson and Charlie Paulk. It was another trade that, in retrospect, the Royals did not get good value in return, giving credence to the theory that Cousy had given Robertson away.
Bob Kuska wrote:A quick comment about the little-in-return topic and the mention of the 1968 Chamberlain trade. I've read numerous times that the 76ers got very little in return for Chamberlain. Today, it's often repeated as fact - but it's not true. Jack Ramsay had just taken the 76ers' helm, and he was a pressing, fast-breaking former college coach. Chamberlain couldn't play his style, and Ramsay didn't want him. Wilt mentions this in the David Shaw autobiography, and it was repeated in the Philadelphia newspapers before the trade. True, Ramsay claims otherwise these days, but his disclaimer doesn't make sense 40 -50 years later.
In any case, Ramsay traded for (1) Archie Clark, a young All-Star guard, (2) Jerry Chambers, a highly regarded scorer who had star written all over him, (3) Darrall Imhoff, who was a functional-to-good NBA center. Those were three great pieces for a team that already had Hal Greer, Billy Cunningham, Chet Walker, and Luke Jackson. In short, the trade gave Ramsay the needed depth to play his college-style, pressure basketball for 82 games. So, no, the 76ers did not get rolled. What ultimately happened is Ramsay put his system before his talent. That became a problem for Clark. He couldn't play the wide open game in which he excelled for LA and would do so later in Baltimore. In fact, if Clark had stayed with Chamberlain and the Lakers, his star surely would have risen even higher. Chambers never found his NBA stride after pulling two years of military service. That had nothing to do with the Chamberlain trade. What happened is Ramsay or possibly GM DesJardines traded him to Phoenix. He never got a chance in Philly. Imhoff, meanwhile, had two good seasons with the 76ers. When Imhoff finally demanded a decent contract, Ramsay signed and traded him to Cincinnati. And that's a key point. Ramsay traded away, piece by piece, a fantastic team. He traded Chet Walker, Imhoff, Chambers, Wally Jones, and Clark. Cunningham jumped to the ABA. Again, this had nothing to do with the Chamberlain trade. But it did have everything to do with Ramsay.
Robert Bradley wrote:1996-97 - Derek Harper [DAL] for Greg Foster, Earl Watson and a first-round draft choice [UTH] - cancelled when Harper expressed his unwillingness to play in Salt Lake City.
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