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Turned down offers

Postby tpakrac » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:08 am

Do we have turned down offers list?

Derrick Coleman shocked the NBA world when he rejected an eight-year, $69 million contract the Nets were offering at the start of the season 1993-94. He wanted a contract similar to Larry Johnson's 12-year, $84 million deal with the Charlotte Hornets. Coleman's agent sought a deal worth $90 million, but Nets ownership balked at that and Coleman's camp was forced to concentrate on a contract of shorter duration. Obviously, Coleman wanted to be the NBA's highest-paid player, and he accomplished that with signing of $30 million, four-year contract with the New Jersey Nets in February 1994. Some newspapers reported he would be paid $35 million over five years, with the fifth year being an option year.

Feel free to post list of NBA players who turned down contract offers, players like Derrick Coleman and the most notorious one, Latrell Sprewell.

The list should be presented like this:
1993 Derrick Coleman, New Jersey Nets (8 years, $69 million) - turned down, signed 4-year contract worth $30 million in February 1994
2005 Latrell Sprewell, Minnesota Timberwolves (3 years, $21 million) - turned down and never played in the NBA again

Sprewell was 35 years old when Minnesota offered him a pretty fair deal, $7 million per year for a player who was 35 years old at the time was actually a fantastic offer. But Wikipedia says it all:

Sprewell's career came to a premature end in 2005 when he refused a $21-million three-year contract offer from the Timberwolves, which he said would not be enough to feed his children. Since that time, he has made headlines for grounding his million dollar yacht, having two of his homes foreclosed upon, and being prohibited from seeing his children.
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby Robert Bradley » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:39 am

in the years just prior to the 1983 rule which prevented teams from contacting underclassmen, there were a few interesting offers from teams trying to coax underclassmen into the draft -

1980 - Ralph Sampson - BOS - multi-year, $750,000 a year - Remained at the University of Virginia, signed 4-year, $5.2 million contract with HOU in 1983
1981 - Ralph Sampson - DAL - multi-year, $1 million a year - Remained at the University of Virginia, signed 4-year, $5.2 million contract with HOU in 1983
1981 - Ralph Sampson - DET - multi-year, $1 million a year - Remained at the University of Virginia, signed 4-year, $5.2 million contract with HOU in 1983
1981 - Dominique Wilkins - DET - 4 years, $1.28 million - Remained at the University of Georgia, signed 6-year, $2.7 million contract with ATL in 1982
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby John Grasso » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:07 am

There's probably a few during the 1950s where top collegians such as Bill Uhl turned down offers to go pro
stating that they had better opportunities in the business world.

One other from the 1950s that comes to mind is Marques Haynes who I believe twice
turned down NBA offers to remain with the Harlem Globetrotters.

Of course the money offered during the 1950s was nowhere near modern contract figures and was
actually comparable to a job in industry.
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby Robert Bradley » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:00 pm

some other notable players who were wooed by the NBA, but chose to remain in college before the 1983 rule change -

1973 - Bill Walton - offered $2 million contract by PHI - Returned to UCLA and was drafted by POR in 1974
1974 - David Thompson - negotiated with PHI - Returned to the University of North Carolina and was drafted by ATL in 1975
1976 - Marques Johnson- negotiated with DEN - Returned to UCLA and was drafted by MIL in 1977
1977 - Bill Cartwright - negotiated with MIL - Returned to the University of San Francisco and was drafted by NYK in 1979
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby Robert Bradley » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:38 am

John Grasso wrote:There's probably a few during the 1950s where top collegians such as Bill Uhl turned down offers to go pro
stating that they had better opportunities in the business world.

One other from the 1950s that comes to mind is Marques Haynes who I believe twice
turned down NBA offers to remain with the Harlem Globetrotters.

Of course the money offered during the 1950s was nowhere near modern contract figures and was
actually comparable to a job in industry.


here's a few early first round picks -

Walt Dropo, PRO, 1947 - Signed to play professional baseball
Cliff McNeeley, PIT, 1947 - Became athletic coach at at Pampa (TX) High School
George Hauptfuhrer, BOS, 1948 - Attended law school at U. of Pennsylvannia
Irvin Dambrot, NYK, 1950 - Attended dental school at Columbia University
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby Robert Bradley » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:43 am

a few other first round picks who did not play the year they came out of college -

1951 - Ernie Barrett - BOS - In military service
1951 - Ed Smith - NYK - In military service
1951 - Don Sunderlage - PHW - In military service
1952 - Bill Stauffer - BOS - In military service
1953 - Richie Regan - ROC - In military service
1965 - Bill Bradley - NYK - Attended Oxford University
1974 - Tom McMillen - BUF - Attended Oxford University
1987 - David Robinson - SAS - In military service
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby Robert Bradley » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:47 am

first round picks who signed with AAU clubs -

1948 - Robert Gale - SLB - Signed with New York AC (AAU)
1948 - Chuck Hanger - MPL - Signed with Oakland Bittners (AAU)
1948 - George Kok - INJ - Signed with Peoria Caterpillers (AAU)
1951 - Marcus Freiberger - INO - Signed with Peoria Caterpillers (AAU)
1952 - Chuck Darling - ROC - Signed with Phillips 66ers (AAU)
1952 - Joe Dean - INO - Signed with Phillips 66ers (AAU)
1952 - Clyde Lovelette - MPL - Signed with Phillips 66ers (AAU)
1957 - George Bon Salle - SYR - Signed with Denver Truckers (AAU)
1959 - Bob Boozer - CIN - Signed with Peoria Cats (AAU)
1960 - Al Bunge - PHW - Signed with Phillips 66ers (AAU)
1960 - Lee Shaffer - SYR - Signed with New York Tapers (AAU)
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby JAB1234 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:04 am

Robert Bradley wrote:in the years just prior to the 1983 rule which prevented teams from contacting underclassmen, there were a few interesting offers from teams trying to coax underclassmen into the draft -

1980 - Ralph Sampson - BOS - multi-year, $750,000 a year - Remained at the University of Virginia, signed 4-year, $5.2 million contract with HOU in 1983
1981 - Ralph Sampson - DAL - multi-year, $1 million a year - Remained at the University of Virginia, signed 4-year, $5.2 million contract with HOU in 1983
1981 - Ralph Sampson - DET - multi-year, $1 million a year - Remained at the University of Virginia, signed 4-year, $5.2 million contract with HOU in 1983
1981 - Dominique Wilkins - DET - 4 years, $1.28 million - Remained at the University of Georgia, signed 6-year, $2.7 million contract with ATL in 1982


I think there was also a rumor that Sampson was going to come out in 1982, but decided to stay in school. Here is a video about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-OoKxIGShw
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby D.Highmore » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:53 am

I've seen that clip before, but it does fascinate me - if that trade had occurred, it could have changed the NBA as we know it. At the very least, I can't see the Lakers winning 3 more titles in the 80s without Kareem...
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby JAB1234 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:05 am

D.Highmore wrote:I've seen that clip before, but it does fascinate me - if that trade had occurred, it could have changed the NBA as we know it. At the very least, I can't see the Lakers winning 3 more titles in the 80s without Kareem...


Agreed. They would have Sampson, but no Worthy along with no Jabbar, which would have made a big difference.
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby Robert Bradley » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:14 pm

1978 - Earvin "Magic" Johnson - KCK - multi-year, $1.7 million - Remained at Michigan State University, signed 5-year, $2.5 million contract with LAL in 1979

How different would the NBA have been if Indiana (or Portland) had drafted Bird #1 in 1978 and eventually signed him, and Kansas City had drafted and signed Magic?
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Re: Turned down offers

Postby D.Highmore » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:47 pm

Robert Bradley wrote:1978 - Earvin "Magic" Johnson - KCK - multi-year, $1.7 million - Remained at Michigan State University, signed 5-year, $2.5 million contract with LAL in 1979

How different would the NBA have been if Indiana (or Portland) had drafted Bird #1 in 1978 and eventually signed him, and Kansas City had drafted and signed Magic?


I can't really see Magic staying with the Kings, but if he had done it would probably have been Tiny all over again - a brilliant PG racking up great numbers on a mediocre team.

Bird on the Pacers seems a natural - they're his "hometown" team, after all. Plus, the Pacers had some interesting teams in the late 70s/early 80s that seemed to be just a piece away from respectability.

I don't think either player'd have had the impact they did had they not ended up on 2 of the league's marquee franchises, that's for sure.
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