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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:58 pm

Noticing that these 'records' of zero Ast, Stl, Blk are all pretty recent, I wondered what earlier records might be.
Progressively, most minutes in a season with zero assists:
Min Player, team, year
15 Zeke Sinicola NY 1952
18 Frank Reddout Syr 1954
72 Ron Shavlik NY 1957
79 Red Morrison StL 1958
118 Al Beard NJ(A) 1968
139 Jayson Williams NJ 1993
626 Yinka Dare NJ 1996

Something about New Jersey.
Of the 17 players who have at least 100 minutes without an assist, just one was before 1993 -- in the inaugural ABA.

Steals and blocks have only been recorded since 1974. Most minutes without a blocked shot:
Min Player, team, year
505 Milt Williams Sea 1974
1055 Phil Smith GS 1975
1406 Randy Smith SD-Atl 1983
1596 Jerry Sichting Bos 1986
1765 Jon Sundvold SA 1987
2024 Larry Drew LAC 1988
2629 Muggsy Bogues Cha 1995

Minutes without a steal:
Min Player, team, year
57 Tom Riker NY 1974
70 Perry Warbington Phl 1975
86 David Vaughn Va(A) 1976
125 Jim Ard Bos-Chi 1978
154 Derek Smith GS 1983
159 Earl Cureton Cha 1989
174 Alton Lister GS 1993
190 Kevin Brooks Den 1994
267 Gheorghe Muresan NJ 2000

How about minutes without a steal OR a block:
Min Player, team, year
57 Tom Riker NY 1974
70 Perry Warbington Phl 1975
125 Jim Ard Bos-Chi 1978
136 Harold Miner Cle 1993

And back to where we started, most minutes without a FT attempt:
(In 1951-52, the first season with minutes tracked, every one of the NBA's 116 players attempted at least 2 FT.)
Min Player, team, year
16 Jack McCloskey Phl 1953
30 Isaac Walthour Mil 1954
52 Tom Brennan Phl 1955
99 Justus Thigpen Det 1973
139 Joe Hassett GS 1983
158 Morlon Wiley Mia-Dal 1994
169 Nick Anderson Sac 2001
295 Jason Williams Orl-Mem 2011
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:22 am

Progressive (chronological) record for most minutes in a season without a made FT:
Min. player - team - year (FT-FTA)
15 Zeke Sinicola FtW 1952 (0-2)
16 Jack McCloskey PhW 1953 (0-0)
30 Isaac Walthour Mil 1954 (0-0)
52 Tom Brennan PhW 1955 (0-0)
119 Jim Tucker Syr 1957 (0-1)
139 Joe Hassett GS 1983 (0-0)
158 Morlon Wiley 1984 (0-0)
162 William Cunningham 1999 (0-2)
169 Nick Anderson Sac 2001 (0-0)
183 Dean Garrett 2002 (0-3)
306 Desagana Diop Cle 2005 (0-5)
307 Dominic McGuire 2010 (0-7)

Minutes without a made FG:
Min. player - team - year (FG-FGA)
11 Bob Naber InO 1953 (0-4)
33 James Phelan Phl 1954 (0-6)
33 Jaren Jackson Hou 1996 (0-8)
34 Muggsy Bogues Tor 2001 (0-2)
37 Pepe Sanchez Det 2003 (0-5)
52 Will Conroy Mem-LAC 2007 (0-3)
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:58 am

Chronologically surpassing the previous mark:
Most 3-point FG attempts without a make:
ABA
11 Johnny Austin 1968 NJ
11 Spencer Haywood 1970 Den
15 Dan Issel 1971 Ken

NBA
12 Duck Williams 1980 Uta
17 Billy McKinney 1982 Den
21 Magic Johnson 1983 LAL
22 Tom Garrick 1991 LAC

FGA without a make:
8 Gorham Getchell 1947 Pit BAA
11 Luther Green 1973 Phl

FTA without a make:
6 Ed Kasid 1947 TrH BAA
7 Ralph Wells 1963 ChZ
7 Dick Cunningham 1974 Mil
10 Cedric Simmons 2008

For Getchell, Kasid and Wells, these were their career totals.

Career most 3FGA without a make:
11 Johnny Austin 1968
16 Randy Mahaffey 1968-71
16 Ollie Mack 1980-82
16 James Silas 1973-82
17 Billy Paultz 1971-85
17 Bobby Jones 1975-86
17 Mark Iavaroni 1983-89
17 Bernard Thompson 1985-89
21 Wayman Tisdale 1986-97
25 Michael Cage 1985-2000
Current: 21 Al Jefferson 2005-11
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:44 pm

Most and best career 3-point shooters, regular seasons plus playoffs.
From most prolific to most accurate, no one has hit more threes at a higher accuracy.
Code: Select all
Player           G     3s     3%
Ray Allen      1212   2897   .400
Dale Ellis     1282   1790   .401
Steve Nash     1208   1743   .427
Hubert Davis    734    759   .438
Steve Kerr     1038    810   .444
Gordon Hayward   72     35   .473
Pete Maravich*   52     12   .571

Hayward was a rookie last season, with no playoffs (Utah).
Maravich hit 10-15 in regular season and 2-6 in the playoffs (1980).

In regular seasons alone, Peja Stojakovich has outshot Ray Allen, .401 to .399, and he's outhit Dale Ellis, 1760-1719.
But in playoffs, he's just .375; bringing his career 3pt% to .398, which trails both Allen and Ellis.

While we're at it, playoff-only threes:
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player            G   3ptr   3pt%
Reggie Miller    144   320   .390
Ray Allen        110   285   .415
Bruce Bowen      135   168   .422
Jeff Hornacek    140   122   .433
Kenny Smith       68   117   .448
Raja Bell         68    81   .466
Bob Hansen        49    38   .500
Jason Kapono      10    15   .536
Dontonio Wingfield 8     6   .600
Anthony Bowie     40     5   .714   

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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby John Grasso » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:47 pm

In last night's triple overtime game between Miami and Atlanta the Hawks set an NBA record.
They were scoreless in the third overtime.

This is the only time in league history that a team did not score in the third OT period.

Since 1946-47 the BAA/NBA has played 72 games of 3 overtimes or more - 60 triple OT, 9 quadruple OT, 2 quintuple OT
and the infamous 6 OT game. In that game neither team scored in both the second and fourth OT period but each
scored 2 points in the third OT period.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:25 pm

Somewhere I read that Kevin Love is the first player since Kareem in 1975 to start the season with at least 20 points and 12 rebounds in each of his first 6 games.
I looked up his lines, and he's actually gone for at least 22 and 12 in each game.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby maltomek46 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:57 pm

Just to compare Love's stats to the best result in that category: Wilt Chamberlain in his first six games of his first NBA season has at least 30 points and 28 rebounds and such an achievement, I believe, never was repeated, even by himself.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby John Grasso » Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:34 pm

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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby John Grasso » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:12 am

LeBron James last night set the NBA record for most points scored on a June 17th.
His 29 points topped Hakeem Olajuwon's record of 27 set in 1994.

There have been quite a few daily highs set this season - all but one in the postseason.
Feb 19 - Kevin Durant - 51 points
May 21 - Kobe Bryant - 42
May 24 - Dwyane Wade - 41 - ties Olajuwon in 1994 and James in 2009
May 30 - Rajon Rondo - 44
June 2 - Kevin Durant - 36 - ties Wade in 2011
June 7 - LeBron James - 45
June 17 - LeBron James - 29
June 19 - Russell Westbrook - 45 ties Isaiah Thomas in 1988
Should the series go to six or seven games two more daily highs will be set
as there have never been games played on either June 24 or June 26 although
there has been one on June 25. (1999).

When the season concludes I'll send the complete list of daily NBA high games to DeanL to be included
on the APBR site.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby John Grasso » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:29 am

Tonight's game between Brooklyn and Detroit ties an NBA record for officials.
Least hair on the head - 3 officials - 0 - Joey Crawford, Leon Wood, Olandis Poole.

Not sure if this record occurred before but first time I've ever noticed it.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby John Grasso » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:56 pm

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Postby rlee » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:28 am

Hawks telecast just posted that Josh Smith recently became the 2nd Hawk player since 1968 to have a game w/ 30pts, 13 reb & 8 assists.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:59 am

Do we know who the other was?
It wasn't anyone since 1986.
It wasn't Dominique -- closest he came was 34-12-7
Doc Rivers had a 29-14-12.
Josh Smith last year had two games with at least 30-13-7

I'll guess Lou Hudson
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby petroslav » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:15 pm

Mike Goodman wrote:Do we know who the other was?
It wasn't anyone since 1986.
It wasn't Dominique -- closest he came was 34-12-7
Doc Rivers had a 29-14-12.
Josh Smith last year had two games with at least 30-13-7

I'll guess Lou Hudson

Herm Gilliam with 34-13-13 on Feb 5, 1974 against the Capital Bullets.

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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby mtamada » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:10 am

Wow, Herm Gilliam. Certainly not an impossibility, but far from the first guess that one would have; MikeG's other guesses of Dominique, Doc, Josh Smith, and Sweet Lou were more probable.

Herm Gilliam was good enough that he might've had a game like that, but it's still highly surprising to discover that he actually did do it. Similar to how Willie Burton once scored 53 points in a game. Possible, yes. Probable, heck no. But it did happen.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Robert Bradley » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:04 am

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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Most minutes played in a season without a turnover: 93, Charles Jones, Hou, '97
- Josh Childress, Brk, has played 100 minutes without a TO this year.

Most minutes with just 1 turnover in a season: 141, Darrick Martin, Tor, 2008
- Kevin Jones, Cle, has gone 162 minutes with a single turnover this year.

2 or fewer TO: 362 Min, Steve Novak, LAC, 2010

3 or fewer TO: see above

4 or fewer: still Novak. Only he and Charles Jones have gone over 295 minutes with fewer than 4 TO

5: Richard Coffey (Min, 1991) went 320 minutes with just 5 turnovers in his only NBA season; he too was a turnover machine compared to Novak in 2010.
- This year, Novak (NYK) has 5 TO in 1045 minutes.

Previous fewest turnovers in as many minutes: Matt Bullard, 2001, Hou -- 12 TO in 1000 min.
- Matt Bonner, SAS last year -- 14 in 1326 min.

Of players with at least 4000 career minutes, Novak has the best career TO% at 4.4
#2 is James Jones, at 6.6, just 50% higher.

Last year he led the league in 3-point% at .472
All but 4 of Novak's 110 FG this year have been assisted.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby meej » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:28 am

Mike Goodman wrote:Most minutes played in a season without a turnover: 93, Charles Jones, Hou, '97


I am guessing he went 93 minutes without touching the ball, if I remember him correctly (Caldwell Jones' brother).
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:58 am

Could be! Well no, he took 5 shots, had 13 rebounds, 3 assists.
And you can get a turnover by setting an illegal pick, or otherwise fouling while your team has the ball. Andris Biedrins (GSW) seldom shoots or assists, but 36% of his "used possessions" are turnovers.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby John Grasso » Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:55 pm

Last night's double overtime win for Miami over Sacramento, 141-129 tied the
record for largest margin of victory in a multiple OT game - 12 points.

The record was set on 4/6/85 when Houston beat Dallas, 139-127.
It was tied on 3/31/92 - Golden State over Sacramento, 148-136.
and tied twice within the past two months
1/25/13 - Atlanta over Boston 123-111
and 2/26/13 Miami over Sacramento 141-129.

It also happened once in the ABA on 11/5/69 with Carolina over Kentucky, 121-109.
All five games were double OT games.

The records for longer games -
3 OT - 11 points - 3/14/09 - Miami 140, Utah 129
4 OT - 10 points - 1/23/51 - Rochester 102, New York 92
also in the ABA - 2/14/75 - San Diego 176, New York 166
5 OT - 2 points - 11/24/49 - Syracuse 125, Anderson 123
but in the NPBL on 11/29/50 Louisville won by 3 points over Kansas City 90-87 in a 5 OT game
6 OT - 2 points - 1/6/51 - Indianapolis 75, Rochester 73
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:48 pm

Watching the Knicks play, Steve Novak was seen faking a defender and hitting a shot -- he now has 10 unassisted baskets this year, of 152 total.
In the same game, he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He now has 10 turnovers in 1387 minutes.
That's still by far a record for fewest turnovers in as many minutes. In 2008, Rasual Butler had 10 in 875 min. James Jones, 2 years ago, had 21 TO in 1587 min.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Sat May 11, 2013 6:21 pm

Novak wound up the 2012-13 season with just 12 turnovers in 1641 minutes.
Next-most minutes with 12 turnovers: 1000, Matt Bullard, Hou, 2001.

Next-fewest TO in 1640+ minutes: Jodie Meeks last year with Philly had 29 TO in 1644 minutes.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby John Grasso » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:50 pm

Lost in the coverage of last night's game (at least I didn't see it written) was the fact
that LeBron James set the NBA record for most points on a June 20th game with 37.
He topped Dwyane Wade's previous record of 36 set in 2006.
LeBron now has 10 daily highs.
Wilt Chamberlain has 75, Michael Jordan has 30, Kobe Bryant has 15
no one else has 10.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:59 pm

From best percentage to most makes, a list of best % of 3-pointers and/or most made:
Code: Select all
. 3 pointers    year   3fg  3fga   3fg%
Gundars Vetra   1993     3    3   1.000
Jaime Feick     2000     3    3   1.000
Loy Vaught      1992     4    5    .800
Alonzo Gee      2010     7    9    .778
Pete Maravich   1980    10   15    .667
Dahntay Jones   2009    11   17    .647
Steve Novak     2011    26   46    .556
Kyle Korver     2010    59  110    .545
Jason Kapono    2007   108  210    .514
Joe Johnson     2005   177  370    .478
Steve Nash      2008   179  381    .470
Kyle Korver     2013   189  414    .457
Stephen Curry   2013   272  600    .453
I've omitted entries from the shortened-arc years, 1995-97.
Korver is the only player listed twice. His latest effort would be the most makes ever at 45%+ , but for Steph Curry's concurrent record.
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Re: Records you won't find anywhere else

Postby Mike Goodman » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:46 pm

Last night in a 115-86 loss to the Warriors, the Suns were led in scoring by PJ Tucker, who scored 11 points.
What's the record for fewest points by a team's leading scorer in a game?
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