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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:06 pm

Yes he is, Mike.

Here is an interesting (despite the inclusion of the silly table) story which looks at his skills:


http://bballbreakdown.com/2016/01/the-m ... l-millsap/
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:23 pm

Love this:


Hardwood Paroxysm: Safe to say Blatt’s the first coach in NBA history to be fired at 30-11, No.1 in the East, with the 4th best net rating, 5th on O and Def.

Greg Wissinger: well that's a pretty specific scenario Matt. Of course that's a first.


And yet, I somehow feel that we'll continue to see absurd "exclusivity lists" pop up from time to time.
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:13 pm

Love this even more:

“Hollis-Jefferson was just the third rookie in the 3-point era to play at least 600 minutes and record a block percentage about 2.0 percent and a steal percentage above 3.0 percent. That doesn’t necessarily portend stardom — Carey Scurry and Robert Traylor were the other two players to exceed those marks."
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:09 am

I hate those gimmicky "exclusivity" lists ( "one of only three players in the last 4.3 seasons to have a line of 27 points 8 assists and 11 rebounds on a Thursday in the 3rd game of a 4 game, 7 day road trip against a team with a record between .500 and .545") soooo much! So glad to have heard from an NBA team's GM today that one of the things he likes about Basketball Intelligence is that we rarely carry stories that reference such a list. (Note: we only include them when they appear in a story that we carry for other reasons). Made my day!
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Thu May 11, 2017 4:33 am

Another classic:

It was reported today that Bob Lanier (1975) is the only player "ever" to average 14 points, nine rebounds, six assists and three blocks in a season's playoff games.


First of all "ever" excludes anyone in prior seasons since blocks weren't kept. Also if you jimmy the #s just a little in either direction you come up with different player(s).

The report was made since Draymond has a chance to become the second player "ever" to accomplish this particular combo of WhoTF cares #s.
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby Mike Goodman » Thu May 18, 2017 12:34 pm

Draymond is the only player (since 1984) to have at least 20 blocks and 20 3-pointers through the first 10 games of a postseason; and he's now done it twice.
http://bkref.com/tiny/8RwSe
Six other guys have had 15 and 15 of this odd combination.
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Stop The Madness

Postby rlee » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:15 pm

Just saw this one:

"Jaylen Brown is the 11th player to have 22+ pts, 7+ reb, 2+ stl & 2+ blk in a game this season"
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby Mike Goodman » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:17 am

It's now been done 14 times by 12 different players. Giannis and A Davis have done it twice.
Last year, the same 2 players were 1-2 in 22-7-2-2 games; AD with 16 and GA 13.

Olajuwon and Robinson have the top 13 spots, all with 19 or more in a season. Only Hakeem has hit 30 in a year, in 1989 and in 1990.
Career leader (since 1984) Olajuwon has almost as much as any 2 others:
273 - Olajuwon
166 - Robinson
111 - Ewing
86 - K Malone
85 - Garnett
80 - Webber
75 - Barkley
72 - Jordan
72 - Shaq
69 - Duncan
55 - Davis
53 - LeBron

That's about 22% of Hakeem's career games, or 23% of his games in Houston.
For Davis, it's 15.5%
After Jordan, the next G on the list is Drexler at #31.
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:06 pm

Just curious: why do you take this nonsense seriously?
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby Mike Goodman » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:14 am

Well, "the 11th player ... this season" is kind of unspectacular and makes you wonder why it is "reportable".
One thing I find interesting is how rarely any player matches or exceeds every one of his career averages, in a given game.

Olajuwon dominates this particular stat layout, and his career averages are 22 pts, 11 reb, 2 stl, 3 blk.
Note the only differences from the Jaylen Brown line are 4 more reb and 1 more blk.

The only player to hit all those numbers in a game this year is Anthony Davis, one time.
Career such games (since 1974)
22-11-2-3
162 Olajuwon
95 Robinson
54 Ewing
40 Duncan
40 Shaq
27 Garnett
24 Davis
23 Kareem

Again, Hakeem with more than any 2 other players! Four times as many such games as Duncan or Shaq.

If we go with Pts-Reb-Ast, we can go all the way back to the mid '60s.
Most 22-11-3 games:
348 K Malone
304 Barkley
263 Garnett
255 Shaq
245 Kareem
234 Wilt *
223 Olajuwon
222 Duncan
200 Bird
170 Webber
It drops off quickly, and only 13 have even 1/3 as many as the Mailman.
* Wilt is only from 1963-64 onward.
http://bkref.com/tiny/wgb6I

I don't know why some people don't find these things to be fascinating. To each, his own.
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:17 am

Combo stat exclusivity lists are generally silly & to be taken with the appropriate grain of salt, but this one is actually interesting: Al Horford is the only player so far this season averaging more than 13 points, 8 rebounds and five assists while shooting better than 50% from the floor and 40% on threes.
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:00 pm

This from Elias:

Joel Embiid is one of eight players in NBA history with at least 1,065 points, 457 rebounds and 125 assists through 50 career games, evoked this great tweet from Byron James:

"OMG I hate these plucked stats. They need to stop. You could manufacture some amazing statistic for Ron Baker too if you tried hard enough."
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby Mike Goodman » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:56 pm

Well, only 3 other players -- Sampson, Robinson, and Shaq -- have had as many points, rebounds, and blocks in their first 50 games.
Subbing blocks in for assists means only careers started since 1974 are considered.
http://bkref.com/tiny/NjwVj
Those 3 others played 35 to 38 minutes per game. Embiid has gone 27 mpg to date.
He also has the most assists of the four, and 98% of the 3-pointers -- 49 -- Sampson had one.

Ron Baker has played 66 minutes this year. Nobody else has had a season of over 50 minutes with more FTA than FGA and a Turnover% greater than 34.
http://bkref.com/tiny/TanPF
Is it interesting? You decide.
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:55 pm

I had a feeling that Embiid was pretty good. Now I guess I know?


And I'm glad you have ceded the authority to decide re: interesting. The answer: a resounding NO! (as virtually all "Because we can" calculations are. 1,065 points, 457 rebounds and 125 assists through 50 career games, indeed.)
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:03 am

A recently seen all-timer:

" Karl Anthony Towns is on course to join Larry Bird as the only members of the 20/10 on 50/39/80 club."
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:18 pm

Just saw this one (which we can only hope will finally put an end to the combo stat exclusivity list b.s.:

FG %age >.580
Blocks per/36 min > 2
Assists per 36 min > 2
Minutes played > 1300
FT %age > FG%age

sorted by descending Win Shares:

1- John Henson, this season
2- McHale 86-87
3- Gilmore 80-81
4- KAJ 79-80
5- KAJ 82-83
6- KAJ 84-85
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Re: Gotta love these curios

Postby rlee » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:17 pm

The ultimate silliness of those dumb combo stat exclusivity lists:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2762 ... ba-legends
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