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2014 Finals

Postby Mike Goodman » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:59 pm

Has there ever been a pair of NBA Finals in which the participants were as nearly identical?
Each team lost its #6 guy (in minutes per game) from last year's Finals. The Spurs replaced Gary Neal with Marco Belinelli; the Heat have just given more minutes to some bench guys.
Both teams emerge from Conference finals that went 6 games. Both had some garbage minutes and some close games.
Ranked by their Finals mpg last year, and also showing their previous series mpg:
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.Spurs - mpg  '13F '14cf        Heat - mpg   '13F '14cf
Kawhi Leonard  36    31        LeBron James   43    36
Tim Duncan     36    30        Dwyane Wade    36    36
Danny Green    35    26        Chris Bosh     34    33
Tony Parker    35    28        Mario Chalmers 32    28
Manu Ginobili  28    23        Ray Allen      27    26
Gary Neal      24              Mike Miller    22   
Tiago Splitter 15    17        Shane Battier  12    12
Boris Diaw     14    27        Norris Cole    12    22
Cory Joseph     6     8        Chris Andersen 10    14
Matt Bonner     5    11        Udonis Haslem   9    13
Patrick Mills   2    15        Rashard Lewis   2    17
Marco Belinelli      16        James Jones     2     2
Aron Baynes           8               
Jeff Ayres            5               
Both teams have ~90% of last year's lineup minutes returning this year.
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Re: 2014 Finals

Postby Mike Goodman » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:46 pm

The '88 and '89 Finals were very close in personnel.
The Pistons, though, had Dantley (36 mpg) in '88; Aguirre (27) in '89 -- about their only change.
The Lakers in '89 were without Byron Scott and his 40 mpg from '88. They had gained Woolridge (22) and David Rivers (6.5)
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Re: 2014 Finals

Postby Mike Goodman » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:36 pm

After 2 games, Tony Parker has played 72 minutes without getting a rebound.
The record for Finals minutes with zero rebounds is 33 by Jud Buechler, Chi '96. Next is Chris Mullin (12), Ind '00.
-- The database only goes back to 1985. --
http://bkref.com/tiny/MkVS0

Most minutes with just 1 rebound: 51, Sam Cassell, Bos '08.
Rashard Lewis (Mia) has 1 reb in 56 min this year.

Steve Kerr had just 2 boards in 124 Finals minutes in 1998 (Chi).

Parker's 2014 Finals are far from over. But he has 40 points, which is more than anyone has scored, while getting fewer than 5 rebounds.
player yr pts-reb-ast
Parker '14 40-0-15
Eisley '97 32-4-15
Teagle '91 25-2-1
Lewis '14 24-1-1
Kerr '98 23-2-15
Campbell '91 23-4-1
That's Elden Campbell as a Lakers rookie.
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Re: 2014 Finals

Postby Mike Goodman » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:00 pm

With 1 rebound in 140 Finals minutes (4 games), Tony Parker is well ahead of #2 Sam Cassell '08 (1 reb in 51 min). He's even ahead of Steve Kerr '98, who had 2 reb in 124 min.
John Paxson in '92 had 5 boards in 185 min. Parker normally gets 3 to 4 reb in 45 minutes; so if the series goes 2 more games, he might approach those totals.
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Re: 2014 Finals

Postby Mike Goodman » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:31 pm

One reason for the Spurs' success in the playoffs was that they had several guys on the floor, at all times, who love passing the ball.
Through the postseason, they had 5 players with at least 350 minutes, who also averaged at least 3.2 Assists per 36 minutes.
No team in recent playoffs has had this, quite. Here are those with at least 4 players getting at least 3 Ast/36 over 300+ minutes:
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2014             
Spurs            Heat
5.8  Ginobili    4.8  Chalmers
5.6  Parker      4.5  LeBron
4.6  Diaw        4.0  Wade
3.4  Mills       3.2  Cole
3.2  Splitter

2013  Heat
5.7  LeBron
4.8  Wade
3.9  Chalmers
3.6  Cole

2012  Spurs        Lakers
6.8  Parker      4.1  Sessions
5.2  Ginobili    3.9  Kobe
3.6  Diaw        3.6  Gasol
3.0  Duncan      3.2  Blake

2010  Lakers
4.9  Kobe
3.8  Farmar
3.2  Gasol
3.1  Fisher

2004  Lakers      Kings
5.4  Payton      6.1  Bibby
4.5  Kobe        3.7  Miller
3.5  Fisher      3.7  Christie
3.2  Malone      3.6  Webber

2003  Kings       Spurs
5.3  Bibby       5.0  Claxton
5.2  Christie    4.5  Duncan
4.4  Jackson     3.8  Parker
3.1  Divac       3.8  Ginobili

2002  Kings
4.4  Christie
4.4  Bibby
4.0  Webber
3.1  Jackson

2000  Lakers
5.9  Shaw
4.6  Fisher
4.1  Harper
4.1  Kobe
3.4  Horry
3.0  Fox
None of these are point-guard dominated teams, of course. Yet all players listed were enthusiastic passers, and their teams were mostly quite successful.
Like the 2014 Spurs, the 2000 Lakers played 23 postseason games. No team since has had 4 guys with 4.0 Ast/G and 300 minutes.
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