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March 29, 1974 Denver-San Diego Playoff Stats

 
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TodMaher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: March 29, 1974 Denver-San Diego Playoff Stats Reply with quote
Does anyone have the complete stats for this game? For some reason, it is not included in any of the published ABA playoff totals.
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Mike Goodman



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That would be a 'tiebreaker' game. These have traditionally been games where stats are not added to either the regular seasons nor to the playoff totals.

It constitutes an 'extra' game, in addition to the full season (84 game) schedule.
It wouldn't be 'fair' to give some players totals for more than 84 games played. (Even though some players could and did play more than 84, due to midseason trades...?)

It's not a playoff game, either. It just determines which team advances into the playoffs.

At this site --
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DNR/1974_games.html

The final Denver game in their year appears at the bottom of the list, under the heading "Playoffs".
But looking at the Den main page, no playoffs appear.

So yeah, it's definitely a gray area. And a potentially important game, to not count.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mike is correct. See the post below:

http://apbr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9194&highlight=tiebreaker#9194

MCT wrote:
rlee wrote:
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And JW scored 29 points in the one-game pre-playoff tiebreaker against Kentucky. ...

Mike Goodman wrote:
These stats apparently don't show up in either the regular season (84 games) or the playoff (5 G) numbers.

That's correct. In the ABA, whenever two teams were tied for a playoff spot, they would play a special tiebreaker game that apparently counted as neither a regular-season game nor as a playoff game. There were three such games played over the course of the ABA's existence, plus a fourth that was scheduled but ultimately never played due to a forfeit:

1968 -- Kentucky at New Jersey for the #4 seed in the East (winner gets the #4 seed, loser misses the playoffs) -- game forfeited by New Jersey, and Kentucky awarded the playoff spot, when the court where the game was supposed to be played was found to be in unusable condition

1971 -- Texas at Denver for the #4 seed in the West (winner gets the #4 seed, loser misses the playoffs) -- Texas wins, 115-109

1974 -- San Diego at Denver for the #4 seed in the West (winner gets the #4 seed, loser misses the playoffs) -- San Diego wins, 131-111

1975 -- New York at Kentucky for the #1 seed in the East (winner gets the #1 seed, loser gets #2) -- Kentucky wins, 108-99

The 1975-76 ABA Guide has box scores for all three games that actually took place.
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