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by sportsandmath1
Wed Apr 02, 2025 2:10 pm
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Re: Constructive discussion re: RAPM

Checking back in on this thread, ultimately we have to recognize that there is a divergence between the two methodologies - % of production* per game - predicting RAPM and/or +/- stint data By now, it should be very clear what my views are: I'm obviously a fan of the first approach for a multitude o...
by sportsandmath1
Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:54 am
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Re: Constructive discussion re: RAPM

league) correlates 0.956 and 0.92 respectively with MOV whereas mine correlates 0.98 due to the inclusion of +/-) So like, you go into these conversations with a weird apriori belief that no one understands what you are saying when what you are saying is extremely rudimentary I don’t have much issu...
by sportsandmath1
Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:34 am
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Re: Constructive discussion re: RAPM

it should be pretty obvious for a stat that relies on something like on court plus minus that the idea that it’s an absolute measure of reality on a single game sample sizes is simply nonsense, and that’s kind of the crux of my issue here, I think there is an interesting discussion to have over the...
by sportsandmath1
Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:12 am
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Re: Constructive discussion re: RAPM

Without wading in to all this discussion of luck and other such things, I feel the need to point out that the initial post in this thread smacks of a failure to understand what RAPM is. Statements such as the idea that RAPM is regularised in order to predict out of sample RAPM are entirely incorrec...
by sportsandmath1
Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:24 am
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Re: Constructive discussion re: RAPM

j I’m not against the idea that it being an OT game might have inflated the totals a tad compared to what you’d expect, but the dude said Jalen Williams having 16-6-6 was the best performance that night because okc win by a lot or something it was very funny Nah man you purposely being dense. It's ...
by sportsandmath1
Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:20 am
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Re: Constructive discussion re: RAPM

- what essentially is a linear model that just replicates how human beings see a box score lol Ok but at least it succeeds at something (btw I've used them - converted to APM) to predict future NBA Games with a log loss matching Vegas (~0.59) solely based on the players who played 5+ minutes (no ne...
by sportsandmath1
Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:50 pm
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Re: Constructive discussion re: RAPM

Hi everyone, Sorry for the 2 week delay in checking this thread. I was spending last week slandering Jokic's 30/20/20 since the statline didn't show the defense. I'll catchup with all the replies and respond accordingly over the weekend. To rephrase my argument, I don't think RAPM is complete garbag...
by sportsandmath1
Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:49 pm
Forum: APBRmetrics
Topic: Constructive discussion re: RAPM
Replies: 82
Views: 24476

Constructive discussion re: RAPM

Thought I'd create an account here for more meaningful discussions. I've layed out all my thoughts on RAPM here ( https://x.com/sportsandmath1/status/1895219187389452605?s=46 ) and @Crow/bballstrategy suggested to "take your case directly to one or more authors of RAPM or hybrids, if they are w...