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Re: Trivia

Post by BasketDork » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:19 pm

Mike G wrote:Since 1978, seasons with per 100 possession rates of at least 35 pts, 7 reb, 7 ast, and 3 stl:

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35-7-7-3  yr    Pts   Reb   Ast   Stl
Jordan    85   35.5   8.2   7.4   3.0
Jordan    89   40.0   9.9   9.9   3.6
Jordan    90   42.7   8.8   8.1   3.5
Jordan    91   42.7   8.1   7.5   3.7
Jordan    93   43.0   8.8   7.2   3.7
Jordan    92   39.4   8.4   8.0   3.0

Westbrook 14   35.7   9.4  11.4   3.1
Westbrook 15   41.1  10.6  12.5   3.0
Westbrook 16   39.1  10.9  14.5   3.0
Curry     16   46.1   7.2   7.8   3.3
Lower the Stl/100 requirement to 2.5, and you also get Jordan'92, Kobe'03, Wade'06,'10,'12, LeBron'12, and Harden'15.
http://bkref.com/tiny/a6SHT
Jordan's '92 should be included in the list as well. 39.4 Pt100
8.4 Reb100
8.0 Ast100
3.0 Stl100
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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:06 pm

Best seasons by Guards?
Since 1978; not G-F

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guards     yr    tm    mpg   PER  WS/48   BPM
Curry     2016   GSW   35   33.5   .350  12.2
Westbrook 2016   Okl   35   32.7   .298  12.9
Paul      2009   NOH   39   30.0   .292  11.2
Harden    2015   Hou   37   26.7   .265   8.4
Wade      2006   Mia   39   27.6   .239   7.5

Drexler   1992   Por   36   23.6   .223   8.4
Lowry     2016   Tor   35   23.2   .228   8.4
Ginobili  2008   SAS   31   24.3   .232   8.1
Brandon   1996   Cle   34   25.2   .237   6.0
Roy       2009   Por   37   24.0   .223   5.8

Billups   2008   Det   32   23.6   .257   6.1
Moncrief  1983   Mil   36   22.6   .233   5.7
Stockton  1995   Uta   35   23.3   .233   5.5
KJ        1991   Phx   36   23.7   .220   5.1
T Porter  1991   Por   33   21.7   .235   6.1
Nash      2007   Phx   35   23.8   .225   3.8

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Re: Trivia

Post by BasketDork » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:12 am

No, I was just adding that Jordan's '92 season was a 35-7-7-3 per 100 season as well, (39.4--8.4--8.0--3.0) rather than one that appeared after dropping the Stl/100 Poss requirement to 2.5.
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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:15 am

Yes, well it's not on this list: http://bkref.com/tiny/Zkeb3
Apparently, he had more than 2.95 Stl/100, but less than 3.00
Now that I look at the link @ 2.5 Stl/100, I see James Harden has appeared for this season: 35.3 - 7.8 - 8.1 - 2.5

Anyway, the post above yours is just to note that the 2 greatest Guard seasons in the modern era are happening right now.
Not counting G-F like Jordan, Magic, Penny ...

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Re: Trivia

Post by BasketDork » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:35 am

I looked up the play index, 3.0 was listed. I don't doubt it, the links there, but if you look at the previous link, 3.0 is listed. No argument here, in most cases, as you just stated, 2.95 is rounded up to 3.0, while say 2.91 would be 2.9.
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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:10 pm

Andre Drummond is leading the league in Reb/G with 17.8; next best is DeAndre Jordan, at 12.73
Nobody has ever led the league for a full season by such a margin. Most years, it's less than one full RPG between #1 and #2.
Most recent season someone won the RPG title by a given integer:

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dif  last      1st           2nd
1+   2011   Love   15.2   Howard  14.1
2+   2009   Howard 13.8   Murphy  11.8
3,4  1997   Rodman 16.1   Mutombo 11.6
<5   1979   Moses  17.6   RKelley 12.8
Rodman had a 4+ RPG advantage over everyone else for 3 years running, 1995-97. He missed plenty of games each year, though, and didn't lead in rebounds (total) any of those 3.

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Re: Trivia

Post by BasketDork » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:46 am

Right now, Russell Westbrook (13.17) and Stephen Curry (12.79) are the only players with double-digit BPM's. At the current pace, if they were to finish the season with 10.0+ BPM, it would mark only the second time since 1973-74 that more than one player finished the season with a double-digit BPM. The only other time was 2008-09, when 3 players finished at 10.0+, LeBron James (12.99), Chris Paul (11.22), and Dwayne Wade (10.66).
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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:30 pm

Players currently in the NBA get just about 7% of their minutes in playoffs, on average.
Only about 1/3 of players are above that avg. Tim Duncan's regular season minutes * .07 suggest 3850 playoff minutes; he's 5300 ahead of that.

Of players who were in the league last season -- and not counting this year's minutes -- the leaders in playoff minutes deficit, i.e., minutes short of 7% of career minutes.

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Def   playoff minutes    7%    Min
1369   Elton Brand      2508  1139
1309   Al Jefferson     1692   383
1233   Rudy Gay         1512   279
1172   David Lee        1561   389
1142   Mike Dunleavy    1857   715
1094   Gerald Wallace   1780   686
1031   Andre Miller     2919  1888
1031   Chris Kaman      1393   362
1016   Luke Ridnour     1551   535
1005   Jason Thompson   1005     0
973   Jose Calderon     1397   424
950   Kevin Martin      1469   519
914   Kevin Love        1021   107
905   Raymond Felton    1678   773
900   Samuel Dalembert  1560   660
864  Charlie Villanueva  907    43
860   Monta Ellis       1696   836
841   Tyreke Evans       966   125
835   Andrea Bargnani   1079   244
827   Greg Monroe        827     0
774   Jamal Crawford    2338  1564
760   DeMarcus Cousins   760     0
754   Eric Gordon        897   143
753   Jarrett Jack      1444   691
While we're unlikely to see some of these guys returning to action in time for the playoffs, I don't really know what they're doing in their down time.
Charlie V finally got into some playoffs with the Mavs last year. In his 43 minutes, he led the team in PER and WS/48.
Jason Thompson, with 14,398 playoff-free minutes, is just half way to Tom Van Arsdale's sad record.

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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:24 am

In the last 5+ seasons, no player has had a Game Score of 38 or better in 2 consecutive games.
With a GmSc of 36 in consecutive games: James Harden, last Feb; and Kevin Love, Mar.'12
http://bkref.com/tiny/RCNcd

Here are the longest streaks at different GmSc since 2011-12:

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#GmSc:    10   12   14   16   18   20   22  24  26  28  30  32  34  36
Durant    80   60   60   31   26   15   10   6   5   3   3   3      
LeBron   132   48   26   23   23   14   13   9   6   3   3   2      
Harden    28   27   15   11   10   10    6   4   4   4   2   2   2   2
Amare'    53   33   12   11    9    9    6   6   3   2            
Love      29   20   14   14   14   10    4   3   3   3   3   2   2   2
Westbrook 27   20   20   11   11    6    5   5   5   4   3   2   2   
Griffin   40   27   15   14   14    6    6   6   3   3            
Curry     29   26   26   12    7    7    6   4   4   2   2         
Carmelo   33   17   17    9    9    7    7   7   5   3   2         
Kobe      23   17   17   11   10   10    4   4   4   2   2   2      
A Davis   21   16   10    9    9    9    8   8   7   2   2         
Paul      31   25   16   10    9    6    4   3   3   2   2         
Dwight    38   16   13   12    9    4    4   4   4   3            
Wade      25   16   16   13    8    6    5   3   3   2   2    
Note Anthony Davis with the longest (7) streak at 26+
LeBron and Durant otherwise dominate.

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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:11 pm

Only one player has averaged what Steph Curry is averaging in Pts/Reb/Ast, over a whole season.

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yr   32-5-5.9   Pts   Reb   Ast   Stl   TS%
1988  Jordan   35.0   5.5   5.9   3.2  .603
1989  Jordan   32.5   8.0   8.0   2.9  .614
1990  Jordan   33.6   6.9   6.3   2.8  .606
2016  Curry    32.0   5.1   6.0   2.4  .700
The last 2 columns aren't qualifiers; just coincidentally very high.

James Harden is at 29.5 - 6.7 - 6.6, which only 3 others have done: Oscar 5 times, Jordan once, LeBron x3.

Kevin Durant has averages of 28 - 7.5 - 3.5, with .647 TS%. The only other player to do this is KD in 2013; next best TS% in the group is Jordan's .614

Russell Westbrook's 27-7-9 has only been done by Oscar Robertson, in each of his first 6 seasons.

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Re: Trivia

Post by BasketDork » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:44 am

Andre Drummond currently has a TRB% of 25.0+(25.2), as well as 2.0+ Stl (2.6)and Blk(2.2) per 100 possessions. If he can continue at this pace, he'd essentially be the first player to pull it off, as the other two players to "accomplish the feat" did so in only a combined 113 minutes.

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Hilton Armstrong 13-14 GSW 15g, 97 MP, 26.5 TRB%, 2.1 Blk/100, 2.1 Stl/100
Donnell Harvey 04-05 NJ 3g, 16 MP, 26.3 TRB%, 3.4 Blk/100, 3.4 Stl/100
Andre Drummond 15-16 DET 19g, 672 MP, 25.2 TRB%, 2.2 Blk/100, 2.6 Stl/100
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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:49 am

Hassan Whiteside leads the league in blocks (4.4 per game) and by a wide margin. He does this despite going only 28 mpg.
The only player to avg as many blocks in fewer minutes was Manute Bol in his rookie year: 4.96/26.1

Whiteside gets 8.0 blocks per 100 possessions.
Only Bol (7 times, up to 9.3) and Eaton (8.1) have had higher Blk/100 in >400 minutes.

Blk% doesn't consider 3-pt attempts to be 'blockable'. Thus his Blk% is easily the highest ever, at 12.0
Only Mourning (10.2) and Bol (5x, up to 10.8) have had Blk% > 10.

Last year, as a virtual rookie, he went 24 mpg. This year, he makes over 60% of his shots, but he gets fewer of them. He's an elite rebounder, and his foul rate is down by 1/3, from 4.1 PF/36 to 2.7

Why is he getting only 28 mpg?

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Re: Trivia

Post by Statman » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:11 pm

Mike G wrote:Hassan Whiteside....
Why is he getting only 28 mpg?
Believe me, I have wondered this for over a year now. His foul rate is not an issue. Maybe it's a cardio thing, going after SO MANY shots on the defensive end has to be a bit exhausting for a big.

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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:43 am

In 50 minutes (2 OT) last night, Draymond Green had 24 pts, 11 reb, 8 ast, 5 stl, 5 blk.
The only other player known (since 1986) to put up 24-11-8-5-5 was Hakeem Olajuwon, 29-18-9-5-11 in 40 minutes, 1990.

Barkely and Olajuwon (twice) also missed this by a single block.
By one steal, Jordan missed doing it.
On 3 occasions, Olajuwon missed by 2-3 assists.
Jordan is the only other player in the 24-*-8-5-5 club, and he had but 3 rebounds.
Vlade Divac had a 19-12-8-5-5 night -- one of just 3 to hit those last 4 marks.

It's just the 16th 5x5 game in 30 years. Hakeem had 6 of them, Kirilenko 3; once by Robinson, Coleman, Divac, Tinsley, Camby -- and Nic Batum, 2013, the only other in the last 10 seasons.
http://bkref.com/tiny/Qq0Zx

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Re: Trivia

Post by Mike G » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:01 pm

Update on best seasons by guards (not G-F) in the BPM era.

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xyz     guard    yr    PER   WS/48   BPM
3.43   Curry    2016   33.7   .359  12.3
3.04  Westbrook 2016   31.0   .284  11.8
3.00   Paul     2009   30.0   .292  11.2
2.76   Wade     2009   30.4   .232  10.7
2.61   Harden   2015   26.7   .265   8.4
2.46   Lowry    2016   24.7   .236   8.9
2.38   Ginobili 2008   24.3   .232   8.1
2.34   Drexler  1992   23.6   .223   8.4
2.32   Billups  2008   23.6   .257   6.1
2.31   Brandon  1996   25.2   .237   6.0
2.21   Roy      2009   24.0   .223   5.8
2.19   Stockton 1995   23.3   .233   5.5
2.18   Moncrief 1983   22.6   .233   5.7
2.17   Porter   1991   21.7   .235   6.1
2.14   KJ       1991   23.7   .220   5.1
2.07   Nash     2007   23.8   .225   3.8
1.92   Iverson  2006   25.9   .165   3.5
Note a different and better season by Wade is used.
Lowry still hanging with the big boys.

The 2016 entries rank about the same in the current league:

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xyz   2015-16    PER   WS/48   BPM
3.43   Curry    33.7   .359   12.3
3.04  Westbrook 31.0   .284   11.8
2.82   Durant   30.1   .301    7.8
2.78   Leonard  26.9   .303    9.1
2.55   LeBron   27.4   .235    8.6
2.46   Lowry    24.7   .236    8.9
2.25   George   25.0   .217    6.3
2.18   Griffin  25.5   .203    5.6
2.17   Favors   24.9   .220    4.9
2.12   Millsap  23.5   .204    5.8
2.11   Harden   25.4   .187    5.5
1.97  Whiteside 24.7   .214    2.4
1.84   Draymond 18.7   .192    5.0
1.75   T Parker 19.4   .218    2.0
This isn't comprehensive, just players who crack the top 10 in any of the 3 (500+ min.)
EDIT: Checking b-r.com's MVP Award Tracker, we see Draymond Green's name at #5; so he's inserted above.

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