careers ranked 1952-2017

[Mike G]

For comparison, last year's version:
http://www.apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.p ... 12[quote]T is a weighted sum of other (per 36 min.) rates: 30 is a star, 35 is an allstar, 40 a superstar.
po% is the % of player's minutes in playoffs.
po/r is ratio of career T rates, PO/RS. Normal is about .93
Rates are normalized to 100 points and 44 rebounds per team, per game.[/quote]RS and PO are included in the totals and rates, but PO are double-counted to get the rankings.
Here's the new Top 50

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rank 1-10         G    Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%  po/r
LeBron James     1278   39   29.0   7.6   6.8   1.6   3.2   .7   43.7  .18  1.01
Michael Jordan   1251   39   31.2   6.5   5.1   2.3   2.7   .8   44.4  .15  1.06
Kareem A-Jabbar  1797   37   24.7  10.6   3.4   1.0   3.0  2.7   40.2  .13   .95
Wilt Chamberlain 1205   47   23.4  14.7   3.5   1.5   3.6  3.0   43.6  .13   .90
Tim Duncan       1643   35   23.7  12.5   3.4    .8   2.7  2.3   40.9  .17   .96

Shaquille O'Neal 1422   35   27.9  12.2   2.7    .6   3.0  2.4   42.9  .16   .97
Karl Malone      1669   38   27.1  10.9   3.5   1.4   3.0   .8   40.6  .13   .92
Hakeem Olajuwon  1383   36   22.9  11.6   2.6   1.8   3.1  3.2   39.9  .12  1.07
Magic Johnson    1096   37   19.4   7.5  10.4   1.9   3.9   .4   37.9  .18   .98
Kevin Garnett    1605   35   20.9  11.6   4.0   1.4   2.4  1.5   37.9  .09   .95

11-20             G    Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%  po/r
Larry Bird       1061   39   22.8   9.9   5.7   1.7   3.0   .8   38.9  .17   .94
Bill Russell     1128   43   12.6  14.6   3.8   1.5   2.9  4.0   35.6  .16  1.03
Kobe Bryant      1565   37   26.9   5.5   4.6   1.5   3.0   .5   36.3  .15   .96
Julius Erving    1432   37   22.5   7.8   4.0   1.9   3.4  1.7   35.4  .14   .98
Charles Barkley  1196   37   22.8  12.4   3.8   1.6   3.2   .8   38.4  .11   .99

David Robinson   1110   35   23.9  11.6   2.7   1.5   2.6  3.1   41.3  .11   .93
Dirk Nowitzki    1539   35   25.3   8.7   2.6    .9   1.9   .9   36.7  .11   .99
Dwyane Wade      1086   36   26.5   5.4   5.8   1.7   3.4   .9   37.9  .17   .94
Jerry West       1083   40   24.8   4.2   6.0   2.7   3.3   .9   36.8  .15  1.02
Elgin Baylor      977   40   23.5   9.6   3.9   1.6   3.2  1.5   37.3  .14   .98

21-30             G    Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%  po/r
Scottie Pippen   1386   35   17.9   7.3   5.5   2.0   2.9   .9   31.8  .16  1.01
Oscar Robertson  1126   42   21.9   5.3   8.0   2.0   3.4   .7   36.3  .08   .92
Patrick Ewing    1322   35   23.0  11.0   2.0   1.0   3.1  2.6   36.5  .11   .95
John Stockton    1686   32   16.1   3.3  11.8   2.4   3.2   .2   33.6  .12   .95
Bob Pettit        880   39   24.9  11.7   2.8   1.3   3.3  1.8   39.2  .10   .91

Russell Westbrook 755   35   25.0   6.9   8.5   1.9   4.2   .3   39.4  .12   .99
Clyde Drexler    1231   35   20.4   6.7   5.5   2.1   2.9   .7   33.6  .13   .97
Kevin Durant      809   38   28.6   7.3   3.7   1.1   3.1  1.0   39.0  .14   .97
Moses Malone     1553   34   21.0  13.2   1.3    .9   3.3  1.4   33.9  .08  1.01
Chris Paul        910   36   21.6   4.9   9.8   2.3   2.5   .1   38.6  .09   .98

31-40             G    Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%  po/r
Paul Pierce      1513   34   23.5   6.4   3.7   1.4   2.9   .6   32.8  .12   .92
Jason Kidd       1549   36   13.2   6.8   8.9   2.0   3.0   .3   30.4  .11   .97
John Havlicek    1442   37   19.5   5.2   4.7   1.8   2.6   .7   30.0  .13  1.02
Pau Gasol        1250   35   20.1  10.1   3.4    .5   2.3  1.7   34.0  .11   .92
Dolph Schayes     945   34   21.0  10.1   3.1   1.4   2.9  1.6   34.3  .08  1.02

Dwight Howard    1049   35   20.5  14.2   1.6   1.0   3.1  2.1   35.9  .09  1.01
Elvin Hayes      1399   39   18.5  10.9   1.7   1.0   2.6  2.1   31.6  .08  1.05
Rick Barry       1125   38   22.1   5.5   4.5   2.1   2.8   .5   32.6  .10  1.05
Artis Gilmore    1429   36   18.9  11.9   2.3    .6   3.9  2.3   31.5  .07   .98
Bob Cousy         955   36   19.1   4.1   7.8   2.4   3.0   .4   32.6  .12   .94

41-50             G    Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%  po/r
Manu Ginobili    1205   26   21.9   5.3   5.3   1.8   2.8   .4   32.7  .20   .93
Robert Parish    1793   29   17.5  11.4   1.5    .9   2.5  1.8   30.5  .12   .92
Chris Webber      911   37   20.4   9.9   4.2   1.4   2.8  1.4   35.2  .09   .89
Bob Lanier       1026   34   20.9  10.5   3.3   1.2   3.0  1.7   34.6  .07   .99
Stephen Curry     649   35   25.8   4.6   6.9   1.9   3.4   .2   37.0  .12  1.07

Tracy McGrady     988   33   23.0   6.6   5.1   1.4   2.5  1.0   35.5  .05  1.05
Isiah Thomas     1090   36   18.4   3.7   8.8   2.0   3.8   .3   30.7  .11  1.10
Allen Iverson     985   41   25.1   3.5   5.6   2.0   3.2   .2   34.0  .08  1.03
George Mikan      284   35   26.6  13.1   2.9   1.3   3.6  2.0   42.1  .15  1.05
Tony Parker      1364   32   21.2   3.5   6.8   1.0   2.8   .1   30.7  .18   .91

LeBron seizes the top spot. Seven consecutive Finals, and no sign of slowing down, will do that.
Actually, when I credit him with 7 fewer games, it's a tie. Or with one fewer title, he's #2.

Wade slips past West; having played 3 more games!
With one of the great statistical seasons, Westbrook pushes 10 players aside, from 36 to 26; Durant moves up from 37 to 29; Paul from 31 to 30 (passed by RW and KD); all 3 passed Pierce.
P Gasol slipped 2 spots and Dwight gained 2. Ginobili passed 3 guys and Curry jumped 21!

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51-60               G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Gary Payton       1488   35   17.5   4.4   7.0   1.9   2.4   .2   30.2  .10   .84
George McGinnis    946   34   19.5  10.5   3.8   2.0   4.5   .5   30.9  .12   .96
Dave Cowens        855   39   16.1  11.9   3.5   1.1   2.2   .9   31.5  .11  1.05
Vince Carter      1435   32   22.1   5.5   3.9   1.2   2.1   .7   31.7  .06   .96
Carmelo Anthony   1042   36   25.7   7.0   3.0   1.1   2.8   .5   34.0  .07   .95

Dan Issel         1351   34   20.7   8.5   2.2   1.1   2.3   .6   30.6  .10   .95
Shawn Kemp        1139   28   19.5  11.5   2.1   1.4   3.3  1.6   32.0  .09  1.04
Walt Frazier       915   38   19.0   5.3   6.0   1.9   2.5   .2   31.1  .11  1.03
Kevin McHale      1140   31   20.8   8.6   1.8    .4   2.2  2.0   31.3  .16   .99
Dominique Wilkins 1129   36   24.7   7.0   2.5   1.3   2.6   .6   33.6  .05   .92

61-70               G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Chauncey Billups  1201   32   20.1   3.6   6.3   1.1   2.3   .2   30.0  .14  1.03
Reggie Miller     1533   35   22.7   3.4   3.1   1.1   1.9   .2   29.1  .10  1.05
Steve Nash        1332   32   18.4   3.5   9.2    .8   3.3   .1   30.0  .10   .98
Bob McAdoo         946   33   22.5   9.9   2.3   1.1   3.3  1.7   33.7  .09   .91
James Harden       703   34   24.6   5.5   6.2   1.6   3.6   .4   35.2  .14   .93

George Gervin     1142   34   24.3   5.5   2.6   1.3   3.2  1.1   31.2  .08  1.01
Carlos Boozer      944   32   20.7  12.3   2.5   1.0   2.5   .4   33.8  .09   .88
Alonzo Mourning    933   31   22.7  10.6   1.4    .6   3.1  3.3   35.3  .09   .91
Billy Cunningham   824   35   19.9   9.0   4.2   1.6   3.9  1.4   32.2  .06   .97
Shawn Marion      1271   35   16.7   9.4   2.0   1.6   1.6  1.1   29.9  .08   .88

71-80               G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
James Worthy      1069   33   19.3   5.8   3.1   1.3   2.2   .7   28.3  .15  1.05
Rasheed Wallace   1264   33   17.7   8.1   2.1   1.1   1.7  1.5   29.0  .14   .93
Jack Sikma        1209   33   16.1  10.7   3.2   1.1   2.5  1.0   29.5  .09   .86
Terry Cummings    1285   29   19.3   9.3   2.2   1.3   2.3   .7   30.1  .08   .99
Blake Griffin      522   35   23.6  10.2   4.5   1.0   2.6   .6   37.5  .10   .91

Alex English      1261   32   21.3   5.9   3.6   1.0   2.7   .8   29.8  .06  1.01
Larry Nance        988   34   18.3   9.0   2.7   1.0   2.0  2.4   32.2  .07   .92
Vlade Divac       1255   30   14.3   9.9   3.6   1.3   2.6  1.7   28.7  .10   .94
Neil Johnston      536   35   23.8  10.2   2.8   1.3   3.1  1.6   36.4  .04   .90
Kevin Johnson      840   34   19.0   3.6   9.0   1.5   3.3   .3   31.7  .13   .95

81-90               G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Amar'e Stoudemire  924   31   24.4   9.4   1.4    .9   2.8  1.5   34.1  .08   .96
Chris Bosh         981   36   21.1   9.2   2.0    .8   2.0  1.1   32.1  .09   .87
Jerry Lucas        901   38   15.5  11.9   3.1   1.4   2.6  1.8   31.6  .07   .87
Rajon Rondo        810   33   12.9   5.9   9.3   2.0   3.2   .2   28.9  .13  1.11
Walt Bellamy      1088   38   18.4  11.0   2.3    .8   2.5   .7   30.0  .05   .95

Zach Randolph     1126   32   20.0  11.6   2.0    .9   2.4   .3   31.7  .07   .87
Lamar Odom        1069   33   15.2   9.6   3.9    .9   2.5  1.0   28.3  .10   .98
Ray Allen         1471   36   21.5   4.5   3.4   1.1   2.1   .2   28.8  .06   .87
Elton Brand       1095   33   19.0  10.1   2.3   1.0   2.2  2.0   32.5  .03   .90
Cliff Hagan        931   29   20.2   5.7   3.7   1.5   2.6   .8   29.5  .11  1.07

91-100              G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Grant Hill        1065   34   19.4   7.2   4.6   1.3   2.6   .6   31.0  .03   .92
Alvan Adams       1066   28   16.6   8.9   4.8   1.6   3.4  1.0   29.8  .08   .95
Horace Grant      1275   34   12.7   9.5   2.4   1.1   1.2  1.1   26.1  .14   .99
Baron Davis        885   34   17.5   4.3   7.3   2.0   3.0   .5   30.0  .06  1.15
Wes Unseld        1103   37   10.4  12.5   3.8   1.1   1.9   .7   27.0  .12   .96

Josh Smith         964   32   16.6   8.9   3.3   1.3   2.8  2.1   30.2  .07   .99
Adrian Dantley    1025   36   24.7   5.9   2.8   1.0   3.0   .2   31.0  .07   .94
Sam Cassell       1129   30   19.5   4.0   7.1   1.2   2.9   .2   30.0  .11   .82
Kevin Love         618   32   21.0  13.3   2.5    .8   2.2   .5   35.7  .07   .92
Tom Heinsohn       758   30   20.3   7.3   2.3   1.1   2.5  1.1   29.2  .14  1.01

Since last year, Carmelo passed Issel and Kemp, was passed by Curry.
Vince logs minutes as a shadow of his former self. Playoffs especially brutal. He drops 4 spots.
Harden zoomed from 102 to 65, Griffin from 95 to 75, Love from 143 to 99.
Rondo gained 5 spots, Zach 7.

[Mike G]

Oldtimers' steals, blocks, and turnovers are estimated from other rates, or just made up from anecdotal evidence.
Assists before 1968 are boosted to better reflect the modern Ast/FG ratio.
NBA and ABA title-winning players are rewarded by an extra 10 playoff games-worth of credit.
The next 50:

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101-110            G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Paul Millsap      825   31   18.5   9.6   2.8   1.6   2.3  1.3   31.8  .09   .93
Bob Dandridge     937   36   18.8   6.5   3.4   1.3   3.0   .6   27.3  .12  1.02
Gus Williams      924   31   18.8   3.0   6.0   2.3   2.7   .4   29.2  .11  1.08
Maurice Lucas    1123   30   15.8  10.7   2.8   1.0   3.0   .8   27.4  .09  1.04
David West       1061   29   18.7   8.6   2.8    .9   2.0  1.0   30.0  .09   .91

Sam Jones        1026   28   20.9   4.3   3.0   1.3   2.4   .5   27.5  .16   .97
Mark Jackson     1427   30   11.2   4.8   9.4   1.5   2.9   .1   26.0  .09  1.00
Nate Thurmond    1044   37   13.4  11.9   2.7    .6   2.4  2.6   29.2  .07   .94
Dennis Johnson   1280   34   14.8   4.3   5.2   1.5   2.6   .7   24.4  .16  1.01
Dave DeBusschere  971   36   14.9   9.4   2.8   1.3   2.3  1.5   27.9  .11   .98

111-120            G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Marques Johnson   735   35   20.4   7.5   3.6   1.4   2.5   .8   31.5  .08   .98
Tim Hardaway      923   35   18.3   3.6   8.3   1.7   3.0   .2   30.6  .06   .94
Dikembe Mutombo  1299   31   13.0  12.7   1.3    .5   2.1  3.3   29.0  .08  1.00
Mark Aguirre     1025   30   22.2   6.0   3.4    .9   2.9   .4   29.4  .10   .94
LaMarcus Aldridge 854   35   20.9   9.3   2.0    .8   1.7  1.1   32.5  .07   .88

Terry Porter     1398   28   15.7   3.9   6.6   1.5   2.6   .2   26.5  .10  1.01
Deron Williams    936   34   18.7   3.6   7.9   1.1   3.1   .3   29.7  .09   .93
Jeff Hornacek    1217   32   17.1   4.1   5.2   1.6   2.0   .2   27.1  .12   .96
Jermaine O'Neal  1103   27   18.4  10.1   1.8    .6   2.5  2.4   30.7  .09   .94
Richard Hamilton 1050   33   21.2   3.9   3.9    .9   2.5   .2   27.4  .14  1.03

121-130            G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Al Horford        738   33   16.6   9.9   3.3    .9   1.8  1.3   31.0  .13   .93
Clyde Lovellette  775   27   21.8   9.4   2.0   1.0   2.8  1.5   32.3  .08   .94
Kawhi Leonard     485   31   21.5   7.8   2.7   2.1   1.6   .8   34.2  .21   .95
Andre Miller     1372   31   15.4   4.6   7.4   1.4   2.8   .2   27.4  .05   .92
Antoine Walker    957   36   17.5   8.4   3.8   1.3   2.9   .5   28.5  .07   .90

Rod Strickland   1146   31   15.0   4.5   8.6   1.7   3.1   .2   28.7  .05   .96
Paul Arizin       693   38   23.2   6.3   2.3   1.1   2.6   .9   30.7  .07  1.02
Larry Foust       819   29   18.5   9.8   2.2   1.1   2.6  1.5   30.1  .08   .97
Derrick Coleman   820   33   17.9  10.3   2.8    .8   2.8  1.5   30.5  .05  1.06
Zelmo Beaty      1004   34   17.2   9.3   1.6    .9   2.3  1.4   27.6  .13   .99

131-140            G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Anfernee Hardaway 752   35   17.8   5.0   5.6   1.7   2.8   .5   28.9  .10  1.10
Marc Gasol        702   34   17.7   9.0   3.5   1.0   2.1  1.6   31.0  .10   .97
Bailey Howell    1037   32   19.1   8.2   2.0   1.0   2.4  1.3   28.8  .08   .87
Detlef Schrempf  1250   30   17.0   7.7   3.9    .9   2.4   .3   27.2  .09   .88
Bill Laimbeer    1181   32   13.9  11.0   2.1    .8   1.7  1.0   26.9  .10   .95

Maurice Cheeks   1234   32   12.6   3.3   7.1   2.4   2.4   .3   25.2  .12  1.05
Bill Walton       517   28   15.7  12.8   4.0   1.0   3.6  2.7   33.2  .08  1.02
Chet Walker      1138   33   19.5   6.3   2.2   1.1   2.3   .9   27.5  .10   .94
Brad Daugherty    589   37   19.6  10.1   3.6    .8   2.8   .8   32.0  .07  1.02
Willis Reed       728   35   18.4  10.8   1.9   1.0   2.6  1.7   30.8  .10   .91

141-150            G   Min    Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk    T    po%   p/r
Charles Oakley   1426   32   11.1  11.4   2.8   1.2   2.5   .3   23.9  .11  1.00
Lenny Wilkens    1141   35   15.7   4.0   6.6   2.2   2.6   .4   27.7  .06   .93
Mookie Blaylock   943   35   14.0   4.5   7.2   2.4   2.5   .4   28.1  .07  1.01
Bobby Jones      1093   27   14.8   7.3   3.1   1.8   2.5  1.8   27.0  .14   .93
John Wall         531   36   19.5   4.6   8.8   1.8   3.9   .7   32.9  .06  1.04

Bernard King      899   34   23.4   6.2   3.3   1.1   3.4   .3   30.0  .03  1.10
Ben Wallace      1216   30    7.2  12.7   1.7   1.6   1.2  2.4   25.7  .12  1.06
Marcus Camby     1049   29   11.3  12.7   2.1   1.2   1.7  2.9   29.6  .07   .87
Hal Greer        1213   36   17.9   4.0   3.9   1.6   2.3   .4   25.6  .08   .97
Al Jefferson      900   29   20.0  11.2   1.8    .9   1.7  1.4   33.7  .02   .86

Millsap moved up 36 spots since last year, West +21, Aldridge 16, Horford 21. Kawhi leaps from 220 to 123. Gasol the younger up 19; Al Jefferson unchanged.

[jgoldstein34]

Have you ever thought about building this as a year-by-year progression to compare how current young players (Towns/Jokic type) compare through x-seasons to the all-timers?

[Mike G]

There's already a decent system for doing that:
http://bkref.com/tiny/GBAVj
You can search by cumulative WS or VORP, etc; thru age 21, through first 2 seasons, etc.

My tables are trying to retrospectively gauge a player's career, with heavy weight on playoffs. BkRef.com does not have a feature that combines RS and PO, as yet.
I've also emphasized per-minute productivity, at the expense of aggregate totals. And the standardized rates allow us to convert to 'equivalent totals', as if all games have the same number of points and rebounds to be divvied up.

A player who gets lots of minutes for a bad team may rack up impressive totals, but he doesn't get any playoffs; his numbers may well be 'inflated', if the rest of the NBA outpaces him; and his ranking may only equal that of a role player with an elite team. They might even be the same player, one year and the next.

[Mike G]

Rates are normalized to 100 points and 44 rebounds per game, per team.
So if you get 30 pts and 10 reb in games where teams get 120 pts and 55 reb, that's equivalent to 25 and 8.

Getting these for each season and postseason, we get a career total for equivalent points, etc. Here are career leaders:

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ePts   adjusted per36
45381   K Malone 27.1
43879   Kareem   24.7
42795   Kobe     26.9
40571   LeBron   29.0
40034   Jordan   31.2
38738   Shaq     27.9
38286   Nowitzki 25.3
37383   Duncan   23.7
34335   Wilt     23.4
34066   Pierce   23.5


eReb   adjusted per36
21378   Wilt     14.7
19770   Duncan   12.5
19717   Russell  14.6
19310   Moses    13.2
18926   Kareem   10.6
18243   K Malone 10.9
17899   Garnett  11.6
16935   Shaq     12.2
16861   Parish   11.4
16335   Gilmore  11.9


eAst   adjusted per36
17668   Stockton 11.8
13940   Kidd      8.9
11349  M Jackson  9.4
11305   Magic    10.4
10778   Nash      9.2
10018   Oscar     8.0
9963    Payton    7.0
9466    LeBron    6.8
9400    Isiah     8.8
8844    Cousy     7.8
8839    Paul      9.8

In recent years, I've adjusted assists by home/away discrepency. Before 1968 they're adjusted to historic Ast/FG ratios.

[Mike G]

Notes and updates:
Durant had a zero in his Rings column. With a 1 there, he moves ahead of Moses Malone, to #28.
LeBron has now played (RS+PO) 1278 games (Jordan 1251). If he has 10 fewer games, Jordan is still #1.

LeBron's po% -- the fraction of his career minutes which are playoffs -- is now .180 -- the only top-40 player who is higher is Magic at .185
Then we have Ginobili at .197 and Kawhi on top at .214

[Mike G]

A fun thing is to rank the various years of entry, roughly equivalent to 'draft class +1', by productivity of the best players therein.
In past editions, I've done this by the equivalent totals of all players in my list. And to get on the list, one needs 10,000 total equivalents (ePts + eReb + etc). But this includes a lot of middling players, whose totals are sure to make later seasons (with more teams in the league) more dominant.

We could do it by "superstars", but that makes it very grainy; and the cutoff is very harsh: Hornacek, in or out?
I'm not going to look up allstars or all-NBA; so I'm going to use a few cutoffs, and pare the list down to those who make all 3. They are:
equivalent totals > 15,000
eWins (est.) >50
and the 'credits' from which I generate the rankings -- heavy on playoffs.

This last one cut the list neatly in half, and so 356 players are considered in this survey.
I made an xyz which was the cube root of the product of the 3 numbers.
xyz correlates strongly with all 3 (since they are all based on the same stuff) but most strongly with eWins; so I'm showing those.

Best entry classes to date:

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eWins:  RS   PO     some players       
1985  1154  135   Jordan  Olajuwon  Barkley  Stockton
1997  1010   83   Bryant   Iverson   Nash   Allen
1986   999   94   Malone   Ewing   Porter   Schrempf
1999   989   72   Nowitzki   Pierce   Carter  Jamison
2002   893   64   Gasol   Parker   Randolph   Johnson

2000   864   56   Marion    Odom   Brand   Davis
1990   825   61   Robinson   Kemp   Divac   Hardaway
2004   781  101   James   Wade   Anthony   Bosh
1971   817   54   Lanier   Cowens   Issel   Paultz
1996   764   54   Garnett   Wallace   McDyess  Finley

1982   751   53   Thomas   Nance   Aguirre   Chambers
1994   733   54   Webber   Cassell   Hardaway   Kukoc
1993   670   68   O'Neal   Mourning   Horry  Sprewell
1989   657   48  Jackson  Strickland  Smits  Richmond
2008   651   52   Durant   Millsap   Horford   Lowry

'85 and '86 have been 1-2 in previous editions; the '97 gang has moved right in with them. None are active, unless Marbs comes back.
Note the '08 gang that ranks 15th. They continue with Noah, Conley, Gortat, Scola, Gay, and Thad Young. Some of these guys are in their prime, so they should move up several spots. No one is waiting in the wings from that class.