2020 playoffs

[DSMok1]

Here is BPM up to this point (via Stathead.com ):

Donovan Mitchell is rolling!

[rlee]

Basketball Intelligence: Today's Best NBA Reporting And Analysis: http://basketballintelligence.net/2020/ ... s-8-24-20/

[Mike G]

Here is BPM up to this point (via Stathead.com ):

Donovan Mitchell is rolling!

When I look at Stathead (non paying version) or b-r.com, I see mostly consistent formatting: BPM shows as 14.0 (rather than 14); TS% shows as .743 (rather than 74.3%); and FTr shows as .506 (rather than 0.506).
All these useless leading zeroes and % signs add a ton of clutter to the visual. 0.5 steals looks 'bigger' than 2 steals, but it's not.

Also, why can't we get VORP with another decimal place? Especially in playoffs, when 0.1 might be .06 or .14 -- quite a range.
I see there is now a BPM column in the playoff game box scores; but there still isn't a BPM for a playoff series.

[DSMok1]

The formatting is because I copied it to Google sheets so I could link it here... Google defaults. I'll clean it up.

Would be nice to get another decimal on VORP, you're right!

I tend to prefer looking at BPM at smaller sample sizes anyway... VORP has less relevance.

[Mike G]

And is this the right formula for VORP?
vorp = (BPM+2)*Min/4000

Further, is this the formula when all games are 48 minutes? or would you factor avg mpg (of a playoff series, say) into it?

[rlee]

Basketball Intelligence: Today's Best NBA Reporting And Analysis: http://basketballintelligence.net/2020/ ... s-8-25-20/

[Mike G]

Code: Select all

4W      thru 4 games    Tm     WS   perW   bpmW    eW 
1.33  Donovan Mitchell UTA   1.27   1.18   1.73   1.16
1.12   James Harden    HOU    .91    .80   1.63   1.13
1.02   Antetokounmpo   MIL    .80    .79   1.28   1.23
1.00   Kawhi Leonard   LAC    .76    .86   1.52    .85
1.00   Jayson Tatum    BOS    .85    .73   1.45    .95

.99    Anthony Davis   LAL    .90    .78   1.39    .90
.90    LeBron James    LAL    .76    .69   1.25    .91
.85    Luka Dončić     DAL    .54    .76   1.29    .79
.83    Jamal Murray    DEN    .64    .81   1.19    .70
.81    Fred VanVleet   TOR    .91    .57   1.15    .61

4W      thru 4 games    Tm     WS   perW   bpmW    eW 
.79    Kemba Walker    BOS    .77    .63   1.02    .76
.75   Nikola Vučević   ORL    .47    .62   1.16    .77
.71    Joel Embiid     PHI    .48    .66    .91    .77
.64  Shai G-Alexander  OKC    .57    .46   1.01    .51
.60    Serge Ibaka     TOR    .77    .57    .53    .53

.56    Rudy Gobert     UTA    .66    .63    .43    .51
.54    Nikola Jokić    DEN    .27    .61    .70    .57
.51    Lou Williams    LAC    .51    .52    .68    .35
.48    Jaylen Brown    BOS    .49    .39    .60    .45
.48    Jeff Green      HOU    .53    .38    .62    .38

4W      thru 4 games    Tm     WS   perW   bpmW    eW 
.48    Jimmy Butler    MIA    .50    .44    .44    .52
.47   Malcolm Brogdon  IND    .35    .45    .62    .46
.47    Mike Conley     UTA    .60    .48    .39    .40
.46    Damian Lillard  POR    .31    .40    .70    .41
.45    Bam Adebayo     MIA    .45    .39    .40    .55

.43    Goran Dragić    MIA    .40    .40    .39    .52
.42    Chris Paul      OKC    .31    .40    .46    .50
.41    Marcus Morris   LAC    .41    .31    .63    .30
.41 Kristaps Porziņģis DAL    .45    .42    .36    .41
.39    Norman Powell   TOR    .52    .38    .35    .33

4W      thru 4 games    Tm     WS   perW   bpmW    eW 
.38    Myles Turner    IND    .26    .41    .43    .41
.37    Danuel House    HOU    .46    .30    .43    .28
.36    Kyle Lowry      TOR    .49    .27    .34    .35
.36    Seth Curry      DAL    .42    .36    .47    .19
.33   Jordan Clarkson  UTA    .37    .41    .24    .31

.32    Tyler Herro     MIA    .47    .29    .26    .28
.32    Pascal Siakam   TOR    .39    .32    .10    .46
.31    JaVale McGee    LAL    .42    .33    .18    .31
.31   Danilo Gallinari OKC    .35    .31    .31    .27
.30    Caris LeVert    BRK   -.01    .34    .48    .38

[DSMok1]

And is this the right formula for VORP?
vorp = (BPM+2)*Min/4000

Further, is this the formula when all games are 48 minutes? or would you factor avg mpg (of a playoff series, say) into it?

The equation for VORP is: [BPM - (-2.0)] * (% of possessions played) * (team games/82)

[Mike G]

Thanks for that.
My simpler formula seems to give almost exactly the same result. 4000 minutes is 82G * 48.78 mpg, so it's a bit heavy on overtimes.
I'm assuming you aren't scouring pbp to determine actual % of possessions, but rather just (min/team min) ?

And I like to avoid double negatives; in this case, I see no reason not to [subtract minus-2].

[rlee]

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[DSMok1]

Thanks for that.
My simpler formula seems to give almost exactly the same result. 4000 minutes is 82G * 48.78 mpg, so it's a bit heavy on overtimes.
I'm assuming you aren't scouring pbp to determine actual % of possessions, but rather just (min/team min) ?

And I like to avoid double negatives; in this case, I see no reason not to [subtract minus-2].

Yep, your formula works perfectly fine.

[rlee]

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[Mike G]

Here is BPM up to this point (via Stathead.com ):

Donovan Mitchell is rolling!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

BPM disappeared from this year's playoffs about 3 days ago. Then the single-game version was scratched from the boxscores. Any idea what's going on?

[rlee]

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[DSMok1]

Here is BPM up to this point (via Stathead.com ):

Donovan Mitchell is rolling!

BPM disappeared from this year's playoffs about 3 days ago. Then the single-game version was scratched from the boxscores. Any idea what's going on?

I see it on the boxscores right now, but it is missing off of the summary locations. I'm not sure why. I will ask.