All Star suggestions 2024

[Mike G]

Including all players ranking top20 (or tied for 20th) in any of these 5 stat columns. The minimum (#20) in each:
21.5 PER
.184 WS/48
4.7 WinShares
4.6 BPM
2.0 VORP
Then converting PER and BPM to "wins" totaling the same (189.1) for this group as their Win Shares; averaging the 3 measures (weighted 4:3:2 for bW:WS:pW)
No correction for games played by teams (sorry). Western Conference:

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xyz2    West    tm    min    PER   WS/48  BPM   vorp     WS  perW  bpmW
10.2   Jokic   Den   1480   32.2   .316  14.4   6.2     9.7   9.2  11.0
8.52   Shai    OKC   1450   30.5   .295   9.8   4.3     8.9   8.5   8.3
6.66   Doncic  Dal   1327   27.6   .198   9.6   3.9     5.5   6.8   7.5
6.64   Davis   LAL   1542   25.8   .211   5.4   2.9     6.8   7.3   6.2
6.16  Sabonis  Sac   1483   22.9   .199   5.9   2.9     6.2   6.0   6.3

5.53   Durant  Phx   1335   24.1   .181   6.2   2.8     5.0   5.8   5.8
5.48   Kawhi   LAC   1318   23.1   .200   5.8   2.6     5.5   5.4   5.5
5.25   Sengun  Hou   1371   22.5   .167   5.4   2.5     4.8   5.4   5.5
5.22   LeBron  LAL   1371   22.8   .140   6.3   2.9     4.0   5.5   6.0
4.72   Harden  LAC   1267   19.5   .189   4.8   2.2     5.0   4.1   4.8

xyz2    West    tm    min    PER   WS/48  BPM   vorp     WS  perW  bpmW
4.59  Holmgren OKC   1296   20.5   .175   4.0   2.0     4.7   4.5   4.5
4.52 Markkanen Uta   1138   23.0   .199   4.8   1.9     4.7   4.6   4.3
4.50  VanVleet Hou   1481   16.5   .147   3.4   2.0     4.5   3.8   4.8
4.48   Towns   Min   1387   19.5   .164   2.9   1.7     4.7   4.5   4.3
4.30   Gobert  Min   1386   18.2   .194   1.3   1.2     5.6   4.1   3.4

4.10   Curry   GSW   1228   20.4   .132   4.6   2.1     3.4   4.2   4.6
4.01   Booker  Phx   1227   21.7   .170   2.2   1.3     4.4   4.6   3.5
3.94   JonasV  NOP   1164   20.6   .195   2.2   1.2     4.7   4.1   3.3
3.80   Conley  Min   1196   15.3   .184   3.1   1.6     4.6   2.7   3.8
3.79   Zion    NOP   1091   22.3   .161   3.6   1.6     3.7   4.3   3.7

xyz2    West    tm    min    PER   WS/48  BPM   vorp     WS  perW  bpmW
3.53  McCollum NOP    959   19.9   .171   5.2   1.8     3.4   3.2   3.8
3.35   Irving  Dal    900   22.4   .158   5.2   1.6     3.0   3.5   3.6
3.13   Zubac   LAC   1030   19.7   .191   0.6   0.7     4.1   3.4   2.3
2.63   Wemby   SAS   1054   21.5   .055   2.4   1.2     1.2   3.9   3.0

Curiously the West has almost twice as many candidates as the East; though a lot are centers.
East will likely have to reach beyond this listing :

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xyz2    East    tm    min    PER   WS/48  BPM   vorp     WS  perW  bpmW
7.52   Embiid  Phl   1096   35.6   .319  13.1   4.2     7.3   7.7   7.6
7.28  Giannis  Mil   1444   29.5   .231   7.8   3.6     7.0   8.1   7.1
5.80  H'burton Ind   1136   26.4   .237   8.9   3.1     5.6   5.5   6.1
5.57  Brunson  NYK   1504   21.3   .182   4.4   2.4     5.7   5.5   5.5
5.53   Tatum   Bos   1474   21.6   .177   4.8   2.5     5.4   5.5   5.6

5.33   Maxey   Phl   1544   20.2   .174   3.6   2.2     5.6   5.3   5.2
4.92   Barnes  Tor   1547   19.8   .118   4.4   2.5     3.8   5.1   5.6
4.82  Mitchell Cle   1133   23.2   .187   6.9   2.5     4.4   4.7   5.2
4.55  Lillard  Mil   1411   20.8   .166   2.4   1.6     4.9   5.0   4.1
4.38  J Allen  Cle   1088   22.2   .232   4.0   1.7     5.3   4.2   3.8

xyz2    East    tm    min    PER   WS/48  BPM   vorp     WS  perW  bpmW
4.34  D White  Bos   1289   17.2   .172   4.1   2.0     4.6   3.5   4.6
3.98 Porzingis Bos    960   22.2   .222   5.1   1.7     4.4   3.7   3.8
3.36   Butler  Mia    942   21.2   .192   3.2   1.2     3.8   3.4   3.0
2.73  Bitadze  Orl    807   18.5   .196   2.8   1.0     3.3   2.4   2.5

https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
Missing: Jamal Murray, Trae Young, De'Aaron Fox, Bam, Capela, Claxton, DeRozan, Tobias, P George, Randle, Bane, A Edwards ...

[Crow]

10 of 25 qualifiers in West are centers. Think you should have a good Center (or more) to compete there?

Suns and Mavs don't have a qualifier. Probably did but traded away.

[Mike G]

Nurkic ranks #60 in both PER (17.5) and WS/48 (.132) -- 90th in BPM (+0.5) -- out of 200 qualifying players.
Those ranks translate roughly to 12th or 18th best at one's position, except that there's a glut at his.
He's 3rd or 4th best on the Suns in all these.

Mavs' Lively looks like one of the top 5 rookies this year. Top 3-5 in everything on his team. May be getting better by the month.

[Mike G]

Voters picked 4 of the top 5 in the East, skipping Brunson -- and a few other guards -- to go with #9 Lillard.
It is Dame's first ever selection as an allstar starter.

He's had 6 seasons with bigger Pts/G and higher eFG% in each of those; 4 with also higher Ast/G
Higher PER 7 times, better WS/48 8 times, higher BPM 9 times.

Apparently the West has had much better guards to pick from -- plus Klay Thompson -- his whole career.
Make-up call?