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Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:05 pm
by Crow
Other articles on pace:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/220 ... in-the-nba

9 years ago. 2/3rds of Champs played slower than league in regular season. And got good at playing that way.


Does "controlling" pace matter?
According to this analysis, no.
https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytic ... -NBA-Games
But controlling pace in this manner is a different question than does pace matter.

This article looks at the impact of extended possessions.
https://darrylblackport.com/posts/2018- ... eper-pace/

If there is other good stuff on pace out there, it didn't make it to page 1 of Google results. The next 6 pages of results had a few articles on pace for specific team seasons and pace impact on fantasy basketball but not much of general significance and none from prominent NBA writers. If you know of any significant writing about pace from them or anyone else, mention them.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:34 am
by Crow
There was also this article... 9 years ago.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/217 ... sadvantage



Would be very helpful to have offensive and defensive pace. Perhaps a pay site has them? I don't see in free public space. Any independent researcher want to calculate using big data?

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:59 pm
by Crow
The biggest slips on Darko PM in top 50 last season were, in order from highest, Giannis, C Paul, Towns, L James and Jaylen Brown.


The biggest gains in top 50 were D Fox, Brunson / Gordon, Jokic,
Haliburton, A Davis / Porzingis.

10 of top 50 have moved, one way or another, in about last 2 years.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:29 pm
by Crow
On average, less than 1.5 players per team last season were 20 and under at start of season. Less than three 21 and under. Barely 4 per team under 23. 74% of league was 23 or older.

Young is a modest numeric minority and even smaller presumably current playing time minority.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:47 pm
by Crow
Play EVERY combination possible with 3 different players at each position and you get to 243 lineups used. Every team in league went ahead and used almost 2 to almost 4 times as many lineups last season.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:56 pm
by Crow
I've been less dazzled by Scotty Barnes than consensus since before draft but he did have big boxscore pre-season. Time will tell if that was a major shift indicator.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:48 pm
by Crow
Rick Carlisle, contract extension.

Last won a playoff series 12.5 years ago.

Actual wins - "expected" of -5 or worse arr pretty rare but Carlisle's teams have done it 4 of last 6 seasons, including a -9.

GM and owner have possible rationales (including self-interest political "cover") but recent playoff and relative regular season success are not among them.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:43 am
by Crow
I am skeptical that NBA will get the huge increase from new contracts for national game rights that they seek. I don't think it will be anywhere close to the increase won last time.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:46 am
by DarkStar48
Crow wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:43 am I am skeptical that NBA will get the huge increase from new contracts for national game rights that they seek. I don't think it will be anywhere close to the increase won last time.
With the entry of streaming services into the sports broadcasting space, I could see one of them (Apple, Amazon, Netflix, etc.) offer a “Godfather” deal in order to pry the NBA rights from Disney and/or Warner Bros. Discovery.

MLS, with lower average ratings than the WNBA, got a 10-year $2.5 billion content agreement for Apple+.

I am highly confident that these companies would pay a premium to distribute the world’s most popular basketball league and arguably one of the five most popular team sports leagues in the world.

That’s not to mention that NBCUniversal is also reportedly planning on making a serious push at least for Sunday night basketball games in order to create a “Sunday Night Sports” block with Sunday Night Football and what would be Sunday Night Basketball.

The current contract is worth $24 billion for 9 years (~$2.7 billion annually). I think the lowest they get for the next one is about $4.4 billion per year with the aggregate value obviously depending on the full length.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:30 pm
by Crow
I recall league sources suggested wanting $7.5 billion / year.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:04 am
by Crow
Seems like I've already seen 50-100 notices of injury related absences and I have surely missed others.

If they have this many injury absences already, the sport needs rule and design changes.


I have advocated for 4 on 4 several times for several reasons. One thing it does is go from 5 on 5 / 25 possible interactions to 4 on 4 / 16 interactions. I don't know how much it would reduce injury but the answer is probably some. 38% less possible interactions should impact number of collisons and awkward movements.


I dunno how much they've the impact of the court on knees and backs, but alternative compositions should be exhaustively studied.


Footwear is player choice but some choices are probably better than others. How much private advice do players get?

I dunno how much various pads mau reduce injuries or severity but I'd probably lean toward using more over less.

I doubt the NBA would go for a significant reduction in games but I would support it or a move to a 40 minute game.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:14 am
by DarkStar48
Crow wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:30 pm I recall league sources suggesting want $7.5 billion / year.
$7.5B/year would be CRAZY.

The 2007 TV deal was $930M/year. That is approximately $1.7B per annum less than the 2016 contract.

I believe the NBA is going to get an increase well more than that especially with expansion around the corner, but a ~$4.8B per year raise is hard to believe.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:22 am
by Crow
Yes, $4-5 billion seems more realistic than $7.5 billion for national deal.

Possible end to or significant reduction in regional deals will affect the total. It might increase the national share.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:44 am
by DarkStar48
Crow wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:22 am Yes, $4-5 billion seems more realistic than $7.5 billion for national deal.

Possible end to or significant reduction in regional deals will affect the total. It might increase the national share.
That’s a really good point about the decline of regional sports networks and how the national broadcasting deal could be used as an instrument to bolster the financial health of NBA teams.

Re: Other 2023-24 commentary

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:45 pm
by Crow
In season tournament groups do not follow divisions. And by giving themselves discretion, the NBA has spread the California and New York teams to the max. Philly gets its own lane as an NYC suburb. Texas could have been spread 1 step further but is not as high a priority as the biggest metros on the east and west coasts.

Celtics get a bracket with no other teams over 45 wins last season. Lakers get a bracket with the best team being the Morant-less Griz. Nuggets face a bracket with the currently hot / super team Clippers.