NBA WOWY

[EvanZ]

Yep. Working on it.

[EvanZ]

Minutes and pace are now online.

[deepak]

Minutes and pace are now online.

Awesome. Thanks!

[deepak]

I see an update -- team and individual level "prior event" stats. This will be very useful.

I think the headers on the tables for prior events are perhaps mislabeled, though? What does FGM/FTM eFG% mean, for example?

Also, for team-level "prior event" stats, what's the difference between, say, DRB and DRB-OWN?

[EvanZ]

I think the headers on the tables for prior events are perhaps mislabeled, though? What does FGM/FTM eFG% mean, for example?

That label (see the tooltip, too) means it's field goal attempts that are subsequent to an inbounds resulting from a made basket or free throw attempt (i.e. the 2nd out of 2 or 3rd out of 3). The other categories are FGA after a defensive rebound, offensive rebound, steal, or turnover.

Also, for team-level "prior event" stats, what's the difference between, say, DRB and DRB-OWN?

These are split out into two columns. Say Stephen Curry is the shooter. "DRB" is the field goal attempts he takes after one of his teammates get the defensive rebound. DRB-OWN is after he gets the rebound. Same logic for ORB and ORB-OWN and STL and STL-OWN.

[deepak]

Also, for team-level "prior event" stats, what's the difference between, say, DRB and DRB-OWN?

These are split out into two columns. Say Stephen Curry is the shooter. "DRB" is the field goal attempts he takes after one of his teammates get the defensive rebound. DRB-OWN is after he gets the rebound. Same logic for ORB and ORB-OWN and STL and STL-OWN.

This makes sense for the individual. But what about under the team stats tab? Does the split make sense at the team level?

[EvanZ]

Also, for team-level "prior event" stats, what's the difference between, say, DRB and DRB-OWN?

These are split out into two columns. Say Stephen Curry is the shooter. "DRB" is the field goal attempts he takes after one of his teammates get the defensive rebound. DRB-OWN is after he gets the rebound. Same logic for ORB and ORB-OWN and STL and STL-OWN.

This makes sense for the individual. But what about under the team stats tab? Does the split make sense at the team level?

I could combine them. Just figured some people would want to see it broken out that way. I think it still gives you some idea of transition scoring.

[deepak]

I could combine them. Just figured some people would want to see it broken out that way. I think it still gives you some idea of transition scoring.

I think I understand it now. What does FGA after turnover mean? After opposing team turns it over, but not including steals?

And shouldn't FGA after FGM/FTM, DRB, ORB, STL, TOV, and FOUL more or less add up to total FGA? It seems to fall well short, but not sure why.

[EvanZ]

And shouldn't FGA after FGM/FTM, DRB, ORB, STL, TOV, and FOUL more or less add up to total FGA? It seems to fall well short, but not sure why.

I'm not sure either. Working on it. There are some other events (violations, timeouts, end of quarter, jump balls) that account for some of it, but there's still a discrepancy. My API is finding all the shots and events, so it's something in my front end code that I need to catch. There's a bunch of "if...else" statements so it's a little tricky. Must be something subtle that I'm not seeing.

[colts18]

Maybe I missed it but is there a tab for some kind of plus/minus data? For example if I look at bosh/wade on court, lebron off, is there a tab where I can see the teams o rating, d rating, and net plus/minus? Is there a tab for team plus/minus like the teams rebounding rate or turnover rate when certain players are on the court?

[EvanZ]

Nope. No tabs for that. If you want +/-, you have to run queries for each case (on vs. off).

[EvanZ]

Added prior shot type for rebounding.

[deepak]

Great work on the recent additions. Its looking great.

I've got another feature request.

One of the things I like about 82games.com is its W-L profiles. For 5-man lineups or individual players, it will show how many games they outscored the opponent when on the floor ("W") and how many times they got outscored by the opponent when on the floor ("L"). Average +/- over the entire season may be skewed by a few games, so the W-L representation provides an alternative to see how frequently the team does well or poorly with certain combination on the floor.

Is this something that could be added to NBA WOWY? In particular, the two pieces of information I would want is: (1) how many games does a given WOWY lineup combination appear in, and (2) how frequently is this combination a net positive in the game.

[Dr Positivity]

Great site Evan!

A Q, maybe it's in an obvious place and I'm just being stupid, but I can't see to find simple on-court ORTG and DRTG for players vs opponents. I'm looking for it, because basketball-reference doesn't show it in their game logs (they use a net +/-) even though their total on/off stats for the season, show on-court ORTG and DRTG

[EvanZ]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Do you mean the team's ORTG/DRTG when a player is on the floor? If so, then you would have to select that player in the "With" box on the form and look at the PPP on the Team tab.