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Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:40 pm
by Crow
Celtics tool about 32% of playoff shots from mid-range. Average was about 37%. Thunder almost 37%. Twolves 33%. Nuggets 38%. Bucks 45%. And Heat 47%. Sixers 31%.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:50 pm
by Crow
Bucks suddenly have 7 publicly listed analytics staff after being low for so long? What impact has come or is coming?
Magic below playoff average FG% from every distance except 1st on long 2s. What impact or not of analytics and coaching on getting those highly suspect results?
Sixers next to last on fg% within 3 feet. What impact of analytics and coaching on that? Clippers dead last. Will either see attention or improvement? Knicks, Bucks and Thunder all modestly below playoff average. Can be some randomness but results are the results and this is an issue.
Knicks, Thunder, Magic, Sixers and Suns all awful FG% from floater range (3-10 ft), though all are low on frequency and what's left may be tougher than average.
More things out there to be found with time, incentive and audience.
Wizards publicly noted analytics staff cut by at least 1/3rd from its peak. Maybe results have something to do with that. Is the change-out process still underway or is the downsize intentional and long-term? Crowd the top of front office with big salaries and cut the base?
Nbastuffer.com counts generally do not count other types of analytic staff outside data engineering and analysis of it. Salary cap staff should count more consistently along with some "scouts" and pro personnel evaluators / managers (to the extent that they are notably quantitative in approach).
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:25 am
by Crow
Celtics were also highest of 2023 conference finalists by 3pta rate + 2pt assist rate. Nuggets and the others not special.
Celtics and Warriors both special in 2022. No conference finalist special in 2021. 2020, Lakers ok, Heat special. 2019, Raptors ok, Warriors special. 2018, Warriors and Celtics special.
So usually at least one conference finalist ok or special and generally it included the champ.
I'd rather be ok or special than not. I am not going to demand special over ok but it still sounds preferable.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:35 pm
by Crow
Minutes given in last regular season to players -2 or worse on BPM:
Celtics, about 500.
Mavs, 6500.
Pacers 5500.
Timberwolves, 2900.
Thunder, 1500.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:53 pm
by Crow
Knicks, 2100.
Cavs, 2200.
Magic 1800.
Sixers 4700.
Nuggets 4800.
Clippers 3400.
Suns 1000.
Pelicans 2500.
Lakers 6100.
Warriors 2700.
Rockets 5000.
Spurs 8600.
Wizards 8800.
Pistons 13500.
Few anywhere close to Celtics.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:55 pm
by Crow
Playoff minutes played at -3 or worse:
Celtics 1.4%
Mavs 4.5%
Pacers 16%
TWolves 2.8%
Thunder 2%.
One of these it not like the others.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:41 am
by Mike G
Code: Select all
Most minutes without... tm next
a point 26 Joe Ingles Min 13
a FGA 16 Oscar Tshiebwe Uta 6
a FTA 272 Ben Sheppard Ind 134
an OReb 145 Aaron Holiday Hou 77
a DReb 29 Maxwell Lewis LAL 26
any Reb 11 Dominick Barlow Atl 10
an Ast 90 Adem Bona Phl 46
a Stl 97 Ariel Hukporti NYK 93
a Blk 627 Tim Hardaway Det 571
a TO 67 Torrey Craig Chi 47
a foul 41 Matt Ryan NYK 30
"next" refers to next most minutes without a whatever. Like #2
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:13 pm
by Mike G
About 1/3 of the way thru the 24-25 season, player per-36-minute rates in 2 categories such that nobody ranks higher in both.
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per36 tm Pts Reb
Giannis Mil 33.6 11.9
Jokic Den 29.7 12.4
Towns NYK 25.8 14.7
Drummond Phl 12.9 15.0
Looney GSW 11.3 16.3
per36 tm Reb Ast
Looney GSW 16.3 3.9
Valan'us Was 14.1 4.2
Sabonis Sac 13.5 6.0
Jokic Den 12.4 9.4
Simmons Brk 8.1 9.9
Paul SAS 5.2 10.7
Young Atl 3.9 12.2
per36 tm Ast Stl
Young Atl 12.2 1.3
Paul SAS 10.7 1.9
Westbr'k Den 8.9 2.4
Jerome Cle 7.0 2.5
K Dunn LAC 4.3 2.7
Daniels Atl 3.7 3.2
per36 tm Stl Blk
Daniels Atl 3.2 1.0
Eason Hou 3.0 1.6
Jackson Mem 1.9 2.2
Isaac Orl 1.9 3.0
per36 tm Blk -TO
Wemby SAS 4.2 3.9
Clingan Por 4.1 2.4
Kessler Uta 3.6 1.8
Isaac Orl 3.0 .9
J Davis Was 1.2 .8
Dort OKC 1.0 .7
Wade Cle .6 .4
per36 tm -TO Pts
D Wade Cle .4 9.3
Hauser Bos .6 13.8
Joe OKC .8 14.7
Payne Phl 1.0 16.0
KJohnson SAS 1.1 17.8
Toppin Ind 1.2 19.0
Pritch'd Bos 1.3 20.0
CJohnson Brk 1.4 21.0
AWiggins GSW 1.5 22.0
Vucevic Chi 2.0 23.6
Powell LAC 2.1 26.2
A Davis LAL 2.3 27.4
Jackson Mem 2.6 27.8
Shai OKC 2.8 31.5
Giannis Mil 3.5 33.6
per36 tm Pts Ast
Giannis Mil 33.6 6.2
Ball Cha 32.5 8.0
Jokic Den 29.7 9.4
Cunni'hm Det 23.9 9.7
Young Atl 21.5 12.2
per36 tm Ast Blk
Young Atl 12.2 .1
Paul SAS 10.7 .3
Simmons Brk 9.9 .8
Cunni'hm Det 9.7 1.0
D Green GSW 7.2 1.2
Giannis Mil 6.2 1.5
Wemby SAS 4.3 4.2
per36 tm Blk Pts
Wemby SAS 4.2 27.4
Jackson Mem 2.2 27.8
Giannis Mil 1.5 33.6
per36 tm Pts Stl
Giannis Mil 33.6 .7
Ball Cha 32.5 1.5
Shai OKC 31.5 2.0
Doncic Dal 28.2 2.0
J Will. OKC 24.2 2.1
Jerome Cle 21.4 2.5
Eason Hou 17.8 3.0
Daniels Atl 14.0 3.2
per36 tm Stl -TO
Daniels Atl 3.2 2.1
Eason Hou 3.0 1.3
J Davis Was 2.4 .8
D Wade Cle 1.8 .4
per36 tm -TO Reb
D Wade Cle .4 7.8
Kornet Bos .9 10.1
J Allen Cle 1.3 12.4
J Smith Chi 1.3 12.7
Capela Atl 1.4 14.7
Looney GSW 1.4 16.3
per36 tm Reb Blk
Looney GSW 16.3 .5
Drummond Phl 15.0 .8
Towns NYK 14.7 1.1
Capela Atl 14.7 1.7
Clingan Por 14.3 4.1
Wemby SAS 11.1 4.2
per36 tm Reb Stl
Looney GSW 16.3 1.7
Drummond Phl 15.0 2.4
Eason Hou 10.0 3.0
Daniels Atl 5.4 3.2
per36 tm Ast -TO
Young Atl 12.2 4.6
Paul SAS 10.7 2.4
Halib'n Ind 8.9 2.0
T Jones Phx 7.5 1.2
Payne NYK 6.7 1.0
Kornet Bos 3.4 .9
Merrill Cle 3.1 .9
Okoro Cle 3.0 .7
Wade Cle 2.3 .4
Category leaders (min. 202 minutes) show up at top and bottom of each of 15 lists. Turnovers are 'fewest'.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:31 pm
by Crow
So folks should possibly try to trade for Drummond, Looney, JVal, Paul, Joe,,Wiggins, Cam Johnson, others with realistic chances to be had.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:48 pm
by Mike G
Maybe build an All-Trivia team for Allstar weekend?
Some shooting pairs:
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per 36 tm 3fga 3fg%
Jokic Den 4.3 .514
Okoro Cle 4.5 .492
Mathews Atl 9.0 .489
Pritchard Bos 11.0 .427
Hield GSW 11.4 .423
Curry GSW 11.8 .403
Ball Cha 14.0 .348
per 36 tm 3fga 2fga
Ball Cha 14.0 12.3
F Wagner Orl 6.9 13.6
Shai OKC 6.5 15.4
Jokic Den 4.3 15.8
A Davis LAL 2.3 16.4
Giannis Mil .8 20.7
per 36 tm 2fga 2fg%
Giannis Mil 20.7 .627
Gafford Dal 12.3 .733
per 36 tm 2fg% 3fga
Gafford Dal .733 0
Toppin Ind .730 6.4
Pritchard Bos .653 11.0
Hield GSW .515 11.4
Ball Cha .510 14.0
per 36 tm 3fga FTA
Ball Cha 14.0 6.1
Tatum Bos 10.5 7.2
Harden LAC 8.7 7.8
Shai OKC 6.5 8.2
A Davis LAL 2.3 8.7
Giannis Mil .8 11.7
per 36 tm FTA 2FGA
Giannis Mil 11.7 20.7
per 36 tm FTA FGA
Giannis Mil 11.7 21.5
Shai OKC 8.2 22.0
Ball Cha 6.1 26.3
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:47 pm
by Crow
Clippers, new arena, Kawhi whatever, 28th on home attendance.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:26 pm
by Crow
Jokic, 49% from 3.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:35 pm
by Crow
League slightly older and bigger the last 2 years than the all-time lows before that.
4 of 5 lowest all-time FT/FGA rates in last 5 years. None for the 3 leaders are in top half on this.
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:23 pm
by Mike G
A player who averages 30 pts in games of 90 per team is as dominant as one averaging 40 in games of 120.
I've found 25 instances of a player getting 30% of what his team's opponents -- what the league averaged in the games he was in -- scored.
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%opp player year ppg opp
.411 Wilt 1962 50.4 122.7
.371 Wilt 1963 44.8 120.6
.365 Kobe 2006 35.4 96.9
.360 Wilt 1964 36.9 102.6
.357 Jordan 1987 37.1 103.9
.351 Iverson 2002 31.4 89.4
.344 Jordan 1988 35.0 101.6
.344 Iverson 2001 31.1 90.4
.336 Kareem 1972 34.8 103.5
.331 Harden 2019 36.1 109.1
.329 Baylor 1962 38.3 116.3
.327 McAdoo 1975 34.5 105.6
.326 McGrady 2003 32.1 98.4
.326 Iverson 2006 33.0 101.3
.324 Wilt 1960 37.6 116.0
.321 Durant 2014 32.0 99.8
.320 Wilt 1961 38.4 120.1
.316 Jordan 1990 33.6 106.2
.311 Embiid 2024 34.7 111.5
.309 Wilt 1965 34.7 112.3
.308 Wade 2009 30.2 98.0
.308 Archibald 1973 34.0 110.5
.305 Baylor 1961 34.8 114.1
.302 Baylor 1963 34.0 112.4
.300 King 1985 32.9 109.8
In this current era of many superscorers, none reach near the top, thanks to reduced min/G. Harden's peak, Durant's mvp year, Embiid's historic point-a-minute outburst, are all that represent the last 18+ seasons.
Here are peak seasons (I think) for some other notable scorers:
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%opp player year ppg opp
.299 Westbrook 2017 31.6 105.8
.298 Barry 1967 35.6 119.5
.293 Doncic 2024 33.9 115.6
.284 C Scott 1972 a 33.4 117.5
.284 Curry 2021 32.0 112.7
.282 Giannis 2025 31.3 110.8
.279 Erving 1973 a 31.9 114.4
.277 Gervin 1980 33.1 119.7
.274 Lillard 2023 32.2 117.4
Re: Statistical Trivia
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:57 pm
by Mike G
League avg (on the court) age this season is 26.5 years, oldest it's been since 2017.
It may drop as more developing players get floor time later in the season.
Without LeBron, the league would be .057 years younger. That's 21 days of age he adds to the avg NBA minute.
He makes the Lakers almost 2 years older.