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Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:29 am
by Mike G
Top 10 Career PER, WS/48, and BPM thru a given age. Regular season only.

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PER     25       WS/48   25        BPM    25
29.6   Jordan    .293   Kareem    10.7   Jordan
29.4   Wilt      .262   Jordan     9.2  * Erving
27.4   Davis     .257   Wilt       9.0   LeBron
27.4   Kareem    .253  Robinson    8.0   Jokic
26.9   LeBron    .247  Macauley    7.7  Robinson
26.9  Robinson   .242  Johnston    7.7   Paul
26.7   Pettit    .238 * Schayes    7.6   Luka
26.2   Erving    .234   Oscar      6.7   Magic
26.1   Oscar     .233   Paul       6.4   Kawhi
26.0   Jokic     .228   Jokic      6.4   McGrady
                 .228   Gilmore         
                     
PER     26       WS/48   26        BPM    26
30.0   Wilt      .284   Kareem    10.8   Jordan
29.9   Jordan    .267   Jordan     8.9   LeBron
27.4   Davis     .259   Wilt       8.9   Jokic
27.4   Shaq      .255  Robinson    8.2  Robinson
27.1  Robinson   .245  Johnston    8.1  * Erving
27.1   Jokic     .239   Jokic      7.9   Paul
27.0   Pettit    .238   Paul       7.6   Luka
26.8   Kareem    .235   Oscar      6.7   Magic
26.2   Oscar     .227   LeBron     6.4   Kawhi
                     
PER     27       WS/48   27        BPM    27
30.3   Wilt      .276   Kareem    11.0   Jordan
30.2   Jordan    .275   Jordan     9.4   Jokic
27.9   Shaq      .272   Wilt       9.1   LeBron
27.7   LeBron    .248  Johnston    8.0   Paul
27.7   Jokic     .247   Jokic      7.7  Robinson
27.1   Davis     .244   Paul       7.6  * Erving
27.1   Embiid    .239  Robinson    7.6   Kareem
26.7   Kareem    .234   Oscar      7.0   Magic
26.4   Pettit    .233   LeBron     6.7   Barkley
26.3  Robinson   .233  * Schayes   6.6   Durant
                 .227   Barkley    6.6   Kawhi
                     
PER     28       WS/48   28        BPM    28
30.1   Wilt      .275   Jordan    10.8   Jordan
29.8   Jordan    .271   Kareem     9.9   Jokic
28.2   Shaq      .264   Wilt       9.3   LeBron
28.1   Jokic     .254   Jokic      8.6  Robinson
27.9   Embiid    .251  Robinson    8.1   Paul
27.6   LeBron    .246   Paul       7.9   Kareem
27.2  Robinson   .245  Johnston    7.0  * Erving
26.9   Davis     .241   LeBron     6.9   Magic
26.8   Kareem    .235   Oscar      6.8   Kawhi
26.3   Pettit    .229  * Schayes   6.8   Durant
                     
                     
PER     29       WS/48   29        BPM    29
29.8   Wilt      .274   Jordan    10.9   Jordan
29.8   Jordan    .272   Kareem    10.3   Jokic
28.5   Jokic     .266   Wilt       9.3   LeBron
28.3   Shaq      .260   Jokic      8.7  Robinson
27.8   LeBron    .255  Robinson    8.3   Kareem
27.6  Robinson   .249   Paul       8.0   Paul
27.0   Davis     .243   LeBron     7.2   Magic
26.9   Kareem    .241  Johnston    7.1  * Erving
26.0   Pettit    .233   Oscar      7.0  Stockton
25.8   Oscar     .230   Shaq       6.9   Bird
                                   6.9   Kawhi
                     
PER     30       WS/48   30       BPM     30
29.8   Jordan    .274   Jordan    10.9   Jordan
29.4   Wilt      .271   Kareem    10.6   Jokic
28.8   Jokic     .268   Wilt       9.1   LeBron
28.4   Shaq      .265   Jokic      8.7  Robinson
27.8  Robinson   .260  Robinson    8.4   Kareem
27.7   LeBron    .249   Paul       8.0   Paul
27.1   Kareem    .240   LeBron     7.5   Magic
26.8   Davis     .232   Shaq       7.2   Bird
25.9   Pettit    .227   Oscar      7.1  * Erving
25.8   Giannis   .227   Harden     7.0  Stockton
                                   7.0   Harden
                     
PER     31       WS/48   31        BPM    31
29.6   Jordan    .272   Jordan    10.7   Jordan
28.9   Wilt      .267   Wilt       9.1   LeBron
28.1   Shaq      .266   Kareem     8.7  Robinson
27.8  Robinson   .260  Robinson    8.3   Kareem
27.7   LeBron    .250   Paul       8.1   Paul
26.9   Kareem    .240   LeBron     7.6   Magic
26.8   Davis     .229   Shaq       7.4   Bird
26.0   Giannis   .226   Magic      7.2  * Erving
25.7   Paul      .226   Harden     7.1  Stockton
25.6   Pettit    .224   Oscar      7.0   Harden
                     
PER     32       WS/48   32        BPM    32
29.6   Jordan    .276   Jordan    10.7   Jordan
28.2   Wilt      .259   Wilt       9.0   LeBron
28.0   Shaq      .262   Kareem     8.7  Robinson
27.8  Robinson   .261  Robinson    8.1   Kareem
27.6   LeBron    .251   Paul       8.0   Paul
26.8   Kareem    .239   LeBron     7.6   Magic
26.7   Davis     .227   Shaq       7.3   Bird
25.6   Paul      .226   Magic      7.3  Stockton
25.4   Pettit    .220   Harden     7.1  * Erving
25.3   Wade      .220   Oscar      6.8   Durant
                     
PER     33       WS/48   33        BPM    33
29.4   Jordan    .277   Jordan    10.5   Jordan
28.1   Wilt      .261  Robinson    9.0   LeBron
27.8   Shaq      .260   Kareem     8.5  Robinson
27.7  Robinson   .259   Wilt       7.9   Kareem
27.7   LeBron    .247   Paul       7.8   Paul
26.7   Kareem    .238   LeBron     7.6   Magic
25.3   Paul      .226   Magic      7.2  Stockton
25.3   Durant    .224   Shaq       7.1   Bird
25.0   Duncan    .220   Barkley    7.0  * Erving
25.0   Wade      .219   Duncan     6.8   Durant
25.0   Barkley                  
                     
PER     34       WS/48   34        BPM    34
29.1   Jordan    .274   Jordan    10.2   Jordan
27.6   Shaq      .259  Robinson    9.0   LeBron
27.6   LeBron    .255   Kareem     8.3  Robinson
27.4   Wilt      .251   Wilt       7.6   Kareem
27.4  Robinson   .243   Paul       7.6   Paul
26.5   Kareem    .235   LeBron     7.6   Magic
25.3   Durant    .226   Magic      7.2  Stockton
25.1   Paul      .221   Shaq       7.0   Bird
24.8   Duncan    .217   Barkley    6.8  * Erving
24.8   Barkley   .216   Duncan     6.8   Durant
                     
PER     35       WS/48   35        BPM    35
29.1   Jordan    .274   Jordan    10.2   Jordan
27.5   LeBron    .258  Robinson    8.9   LeBron
27.1   Shaq      .252   Kareem     8.0  Robinson
27.1  Robinson   .248   Wilt       7.6   Magic
26.7   Wilt      .241   Paul       7.4   Paul
26.3   Kareem    .234   LeBron     7.3   Kareem
25.0   Durant    .226   Magic      7.1  Stockton
24.9   Paul      .217   Barkley    6.9   Bird
24.7   Duncan    .214   Shaq       6.6   Durant
24.7   Barkley   .214   Duncan     6.5   Curry
                     
PER     36       WS/48   36        BPM    36
29.1   Jordan    .274   Jordan    10.2   Jordan
27.4   LeBron    .254  Robinson    8.9   LeBron
26.9   Shaq      .248   Wilt       7.7  Robinson
26.6  Robinson   .247   Kareem     7.5   Magic
26.2   Wilt      .239   Paul       7.3   Paul
26.0   Kareem    .232   LeBron     7.1  Stockton
24.8   Durant    .225   Magic      7.0   Kareem
24.7   Duncan    .216   Barkley    6.5   Curry
24.6   Paul      .213   Duncan     6.4   Durant
24.6   Barkley   .212   Shaq       6.3   Harden
                     
PER     37       WS/48   37        BPM    37
29.1   Jordan    .274   Jordan    10.2   Jordan
27.3   LeBron    .250  Robinson    8.9   LeBron
26.6   Shaq      .245   Kareem     7.5  Robinson
26.2  Robinson   .236   Paul       7.1   Paul
25.8   Kareem    .230   LeBron     7.0  Stockton
24.7   Durant    .212   Malone     6.8   Kareem
24.6   Duncan    .211   Duncan     6.4   Curry
24.4   Malone    .210  Stockton    6.3   Durant
24.3   Paul      .209   Shaq       5.8   Garnett
24.0   Hakeem    .204   Durant     5.7   Duncan
                     
PER     38       WS/48   38        BPM    38
28.6   Jordan    .263   Jordan     9.8   Jordan
27.2   LeBron    .243   Kareem     8.8   LeBron
26.4   Shaq      .232   Paul       7.0  Stockton
25.7   Kareem    .226   LeBron     6.9   Paul
24.5   Duncan    .211   Duncan     6.7   Kareem
24.2   Malone    .210   Stockton   5.7   Garnett
24.0   Paul      .208   Malone     5.7   Duncan
23.9   Hakeem    .208   Shaq       5.3   Malone
22.9   Dirk      .198   Dirk       5.1   Shaq
22.8   Garnett   .193   Gilmore    4.8   Hakeem
                                   4.8   Dirk
                     
PER     39       WS/48   39        BPM    39
27.9   Jordan    .250   Jordan     9.2   Jordan
27.1   LeBron    .238   Kareem     8.7   LeBron
25.3   Kareem    .226   Paul       6.9  Stockton
24.2   Duncan    .224   LeBron     6.6   Paul
24.1   Malone    .209   Duncan     6.4   Kareem
23.6   Hakeem    .210  Stockton    5.6   Garnett
23.5   Paul      .207   Malone     5.6   Duncan
22.7   Garnett   .182   Shaq       5.2   Malone
22.6   Dirk      .196   Dirk       5.1   Shaq
22.3   Moses     .178   Moses      4.7   Dirk
* - incomplete data; sorry it's not consistent.
Kareem's BPM does not include his (likely) best early years. Thru age 25, his PER and WS/48 were both at maximum. That was thru the 1973 season, and BPM starts in 1974.

Minutes to qualify: 6000 at age 25 +2000 for each year thereafter: 16,000 at 30 ... 26,000 at 35 ...
Retired players do not qualify at a later date, unless I know they will have un-retired later. :(

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2026 5:30 pm
by Mike G
At the 2026 allstar break, some category leaders. Totals, per game averages, and per 100 possessions. These last 2 have some minimum minutes to qualify.

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qual.   3FG  leader   OReb  leader  DReb  leader   TReb  leader
total   185 Mitchell  244  Clingan   454 JJohnson   607  Towns
per G   4.5  Curry    4.7  Clingan   9.2  Jokic    12.3  Jokic
per100  6.9  Curry   11.3  MRob'n   15.1  Wemby    22.2  MRob'n
                        
qual.   Ast  leader   Stl  leader    Blk  leader    Pts  leader
total   452  Cade     109  Wallace   106  *tie*    1558  Shai
per G  10.7  Jokic    2.1  Kawhi     2.7  Wemby    32.8  Luka
per100 15.4  Jokic    3.9 DruSmith   4.6  Huff     46.1  Shai
EDIT to add:
Where does Shai'26 rank among all time scoring threats?

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Pts/100 possessions 
48.2   Harden   2019
47.4   Embiid   2023
46.4   Jordan   1987
46.2   Giannis  2023
46.1   Shai   * 2026
45.9   Shai     2025
45.6   Kobe     45.6
45.1   Embiid   2022
44.9   Luka   * 2026
44.8 Westbrook  2017
Two of the *potential 10 best individual scoring seasons since 1974 are underway.
Also:

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pts/100  2026  * rk
43.2   J Brown   19
42.6   Kawhi     25
41.8   Curry     37
41.2   Jokic     42
40.9   Mitchell  45
40.3   Wemby     51
39.3   Edwards   76
38.4   Brunson   99
That makes 10 of the top 100, or 10%, from the last 53 seasons.
I count about a dozen years when any of these would have led the league.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... eason.html

It's not nearly such a banner season for Assist men:

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Ast/100  2026  * rk
15.4   Jokic     45
13.7   Collier  118
13.5  McConnell 137
13.3   Cade     148
13.1   LaMelo   164
That's it from the top 250. Just par at 1/50th of the list.

Best C/F Ast years:

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Ast/100 not-guards
15.4   Jokic  * 2026
14.3   Jokic    2023
14.0   LeBron   2020
13.4   Jokic    2025
13.2  Draymond  2021
12.8   Jokic    2024
12.7   Luka     2020
12.5   Luka     2024
12.4   Luka     2022
12.4   Luka     2021
Ignore these last 4 if you think Luka is a guard.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 6:08 pm
by Mike G
This season, the Milwaukee Bucks have the league's worst Offensive Rebounding %, by a good bit. It was even lower last year.
Of 186 'qualifying' players at b-r.com, Gary Trent Jr is dead last in ORb%, DRb%, and (of course) TRb%.
His Total Reb% of 2.6 is unmatched in recent seasons, among major rotation players. The lowest I find in previous 6 seasons is 3.6 (Eric Gordon, Patty Mills ...)
He hasn't always been such a non-rebounder; and this year it's not in all situations. Here are some splits:

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split   min  Reb  Rb/36   ORt  DRt    +/-
Home    558   27   1.74   108  123   -8.6
Road    559   25   1.61   101  123  -16.7
                  
split   min  Reb  Rb/36   ORt  DRt    +/-
Wins    450   33   2.64   116  116    1.1
Losses  667   19   1.03    97  127  -22.0
                  
split   min  Reb  Rb/36   ORt  DRt    +/-
Start   485   27   2.00   106  119   -7.7
Reserve 632   25   1.42   104  125  -16.7
                  
split   min  Reb  Rb/36   ORt  DRt    +/-
vs East 784   38   1.74   103  122  -10.5
vs West 333   14   1.51   110  124  -17.8
                  
split    ORb% DRb%  TRb%  ORt  DRt    +/-
2019-25  1.4  7.9   4.6   113  116   -0.8
2026     0.6  4.6   2.6   107  122  -12.2
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... plits/2026
He's had a couple of intervals this year with zero rebounds in near 100 minutes.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2026 6:46 pm
by Crow
LeBron finally has most regular season games played.

He'll add to stats & ranks but is there anything else he get to 1st place all-time on?

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2026 2:18 pm
by Mike G
"most xyz after age 40"

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2026 5:41 pm
by Crow
OK, a specialized category.

Looks like he got lead on regular season minutes and field goals from Kareem earlier this season.

In 3rd place and more than 2500 short of 1st on 2pt field goals.

Passed Kobe for most field goals missed last season.

3rd on ftm, 2nd on ftas. Might get 2nd on ftm.

151st on career offensive rebounds. Didn't really want to do that?

117th on fouls. Didn't emphasize that either.

I won't list all the top 5s but there are more.

68th on efg% 65th on ts%.

Regular season + playoffs should be more important imo but rarely cited. Not going thru those lists now because it is still pretty much the same story of 1sts and nots.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 3:55 am
by Crow
LeBron passes Kareem for most total wins.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:54 am
by Crow
Summary of James records

https://www.aol.com/articles/lebron-jam ... 21122.html

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2026 11:42 pm
by Mike G
Clipps at Pacers final 60 seconds play-by-play, with * * annotations.

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time   Clippers      -     Pacers                       score
60.0          O. Toppin makes 2-pt dunk at rim        108-113
49.9   K. Leonard makes 2-pt jump shot from 7 ft      110-113      
33.7       A. Nesmith misses 3-pt jump shot from 30 ft
31.3   Defensive rebound by Team            
31.3   Loose ball foul by B. Sheppard (drawn by D. Garland)
31.3   D. Garland makes free throw 1 of 2             111-113      
31.3   D. Garland makes free throw 2 of 2             112-113      
9.7         P. Siakam misses 2-pt jump shot from 12 ft
7.1   Defensive rebound by B. Lopez           
3.0   LA Clippers full timeout            
3.0         J. Huff enters the game for O. Toppin
1.0   K. Leonard makes 2-pt jump shot from 8 ft       114-113
...     (assist by B. Mathurin) 

* *   Mathurin inbounded to Kawhi in the corner. Kawhi
*      dribbled 2x to the FT line and hit a 14-footer
                            
0.4          Indiana full timeout
0.4          Turnover by A. Nembhard (inbound)

* *    Nembhard inbounded the ball into the basket. That does
*       not count as a FG, and it is a turnover.

0.4   Personal take foul by A. Nesmith (drawn by B. Mathurin)   

* *  Mathurin had made 12/13 FT before this. An 85% FT shooter,
*     his chance of making Both is 75%.

0.4   B. Mathurin misses free throw 1 of 2            
0.4   B. Mathurin misses free throw 2 of 2 

* *   Chance of missing both was 1 in 58
           
0.4           Defensive rebound by P. Siakam
0.1           Indiana full timeout
0.1           J. Huff enters the game for Q. Jackson
0.1   Loose ball foul by B. Lopez (drawn by J. Huff) 

* *   Foul called with no time running off the clock.
*     Huff shoots 83% from the line. Chance of winning the game
*     by making both is 70%, making just one to tie is 27% 
         
0.1            J. Huff misses free throw 1 of 2
0.1            J. Huff misses free throw 2 of 2

* *    Chance of missing both was 1/38
0.0                                                  (114-113)

* *    chance of all 4 FT missing was 1/2160
https://www.espn.com/nba/playbyplay/_/gameId/401810921
Announcers said Kawhi had won the game with his last shot. Not even close.
Last night the ESPN pbp said it was a 7' jumper, today b-r.com says 8'. His heel was on the FT line when he went up and behind it when he came down. Both are off by half. Is there an official distance on shots? or on pbp?

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 3:12 pm
by Mike G
LeBron and Bronny, in their 43rd game together, just connected on their first assist, dad to son.
In 61 NBA appearances, Bronny has played 423 minutes. His Usage% is 17.7

LeBron avg's 8.0 assists/36 these last 2 seasons, or 1 every 4.5 minutes.
Subtract LeBron's 28.7 Usg% from 100, and Bronny takes 24.8% of non-LeBron shots when they are both playing.

Jr. shoots .360 FG%, while Lakers in general are ~.490, so he's only (36/49) .735 as likely to convert.
So one Bron->Bronny assist should occur every (4.5/.248/.735 =) 25 minutes?
All else being equal.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 9:51 pm
by Crow
Somebody out there has the passing pair data to show total passes, potential assists and actual assists.


I found Bronny received passes at close to 400.

Maybe this can be seen clearly / used with a larger screen:

https://perthirtysix.com/nba/team-passes
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