2012-13 Rookies

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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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Ah, but surely that multiplication factor is going to help these negative players who come off the bench, and hinder the players who start? In other words two players with the same rating, one coming off the bench and one starting, the bench player will have a higher rating due to the multiplication.
Nobody has a negative T rate, over more than a few minutes. That would be someone with more turnovers than everything else, basically.
Put another way, everyone makes positive contributions. This positive number T then has replacement T subtracted. Sub-replacement players make negative eWins.

Austin Rivers has started 23 of 51 games and has a Start%Factor of .997 -- close to league average. His T rate is 13.20, replacement level as defined in eWins.

If he'd gathered the same stats while starting all 51 games, his St%Fac would be 1.025, and his T rate 13.57. This yields eW/484 = .04
If he'd come off the bench for all those minutes, and still been as bad, his St%Fac = .969, and T = 12.83; e484 = -.04
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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Ok, that makes more sense now.
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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At 68% of the season, rookies project to 70 eWins

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e82    per36 rates   tm   Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
7.0   Lillard,Damian Por   39  .524   18.0   3.2   5.8    .9   2.8   .3  1.07
5.6   Davis,Anthony  NOH   28  .537   17.0  10.6   1.1   1.5   1.8  2.1  1.53
4.5   Drummond,Andre Det   20  .554   13.2  13.6    .8   1.6   1.4  2.6  1.57
4.1   Beal,Bradley   Was   31  .498   16.8   4.0   2.7   1.1   1.8   .7   .89
3.6   Waiters,Dion   Cle   29  .478   17.4   3.2   3.6   1.3   2.4   .2   .84

3.3 Kidd-Gilchrist,M Cha   26  .499   12.4   8.1   2.0   1.0   2.0  1.2   .81
2.8   Shved,Alexey   Min   27  .479   14.0   3.5   5.4   1.0   2.9   .5   .67
2.6 Nicholson,Andrew Orl   17  .545   16.8   7.9    .9    .7   2.2   .9   .97
2.6   Zeller,Tyler   Cle   27  .479   10.5   8.5   1.6    .6   1.7  1.0   .60
2.5  Sullinger,Jared Bos   20  .526   11.2  10.7   1.3    .9   1.1   .7   .95

e82    per36 rates   tm   Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
2.4  Barnes,Harrison GSW   26  .514   12.5   5.8   2.0    .9   1.6   .2   .57
2.3 Valanciunas,Jona Tor   21  .560   12.5  10.0   1.5    .4   2.2  2.0   .93
2.1   Henson,John    Mil   13  .481   15.9  10.9   1.1    .6   1.7  1.5  1.30
2.0   Roberts,Brian  NOH   15  .506   16.3   2.5   4.9   1.0   1.8   .1   .87
1.8   Singler,Kyle   Det   28  .520   11.5   5.3   1.3    .8   1.5   .6   .39

1.8 Harkless,Maurice Orl   21  .488    9.5   7.2    .8   1.5   1.0  1.4   .56
1.6   Prigioni,Pablo NYK   15  .585    8.9   4.0   7.6   2.1   2.8   .1   .65
1.3  Robinson,Thomas Sac   16  .445    9.6  10.3   1.4   1.0   2.7   .9   .53
1.2   Crowder,Jae    Dal   17  .487   10.9   4.5   2.2   1.9   1.3   .3   .46
1.2   Ross,Terrence  Tor   17  .477   12.7   4.4   1.6   1.2   1.4   .5   .46

e82    per36 rates   tm   Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
1.1   Copeland,Chris NYK   12  .574   19.5   4.0   1.0    .6   1.7   .7   .91
1.1   O'Quinn,Kyle   Orl    8  .569   13.8  10.4   2.1    .8   1.6  2.0  1.27
1.0   James,Bernard  Dal   12  .528    9.8   9.7    .5    .9   1.3  3.2   .82
0.9   Green,Draymond GSW   15  .412    7.2   8.7   1.7   1.5   1.8   .7   .37
0.9   Decolo,Nando   SAS   12  .521   10.5   4.9   5.7   1.3   3.2   .2   .51

0.9   Leonard,Meyers Por   15  .590    9.7   7.7    .6    .5   1.3  1.4   .45
0.8 Beverley,Patrick Hou   14  .566   12.8   5.4   6.8   2.2   2.4   .8  1.16
0.7   Taylor,Jeffery Cha   21  .530   10.5   3.5   1.4   1.2   1.1   .3   .20
0.7  Teletovic,Mirza Brk    8  .481   13.8   6.7   1.8   1.0   1.3   .6   .82
0.7  Johnson,Orlando Ind   11  .586   13.5   6.3   2.9    .5   1.7   .1   .79
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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Season almost 3/4 over -- .743, to be precise.
Rookies project to 69.3 eWins total.

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e82    per36 rates    tm  Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
7.1   Lillard,Damian Por   38  .531   18.3   3.2   5.8   1.9    .9   2.8   .2  1.08
5.4   Davis,Anthony  NOH   28  .538   16.8  10.7   1.1   3.0   1.5   1.8  2.1  1.51
4.4   Beal,Bradley   Was   32  .507   17.2   4.3   2.6   2.3   1.0   1.7   .6   .94
4.1   Drummond,Andre Det   20  .554   13.1  13.5    .8   3.6   1.6   1.4  2.6  1.56
3.7   Waiters,Dion   Cle   30  .488   17.9   3.1   3.7   2.4   1.2   2.4   .2   .88

3.3 Kidd-Gilchrist,M Cha   26  .504   12.4   8.0   1.9   3.0   1.0   1.9  1.1   .80
2.7 Nicholson,Andrew Orl   17  .564   17.2   7.6    .9   3.8    .6   2.1   .9   .99
2.6   Zeller,Tyler   Cle   27  .472   10.2   8.4   1.7   4.1    .7   1.7  1.0   .61
2.5   Shved,Alexey   Min   27  .471   13.6   3.4   5.0   2.2   1.0   2.8   .5   .60
2.4  Sullinger,Jared Bos   20  .526   11.1  10.7   1.3   6.0    .9   1.1   .8   .97

e82    per36 rates    tm  Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
2.4  Barnes,Harrison GSW   26  .515   12.6   5.6   1.9   2.5    .9   1.7   .3   .55
2.3 Valanciunas,Jona Tor   21  .546   12.0  10.1   1.4   4.9    .5   2.2  1.9   .89
2.1   Henson,John    Mil   12  .491   16.1  10.9   1.1   3.9    .6   1.9  1.3  1.28
1.9 Harkless,Maurice Orl   22  .520   10.1   6.9    .9   2.5   1.4   1.0  1.2   .58
1.8   Roberts,Brian  NOH   14  .501   15.7   2.5   4.9   2.7   1.0   1.8   .1   .82

1.8   Singler,Kyle   Det   28  .519   11.5   5.2   1.2   3.5    .9   1.5   .5   .38
1.4   Prigioni,Pablo NYK   14  .578    8.7   4.0   7.5   3.3   2.1   2.8   .1   .62
1.2   Leonard,Meyers Por   15  .608   10.8   8.0    .6   4.9    .5   1.3  1.3   .60
1.2   Crowder,Jae    Dal   17  .484   10.7   4.5   2.2   3.4   1.8   1.2   .3   .45
1.2  Robinson,Thomas Sac   16  .445    9.6  10.3   1.4   3.9   1.0   2.7   .9   .54

e82    per36 rates    tm  Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
1.1   O'Quinn,Kyle   Orl    8  .554   13.2  10.8   2.1   5.7    .7   1.7  1.9  1.25
1.1 Beverley,Patrick Hou   16  .578   12.0   5.6   7.1   4.1   2.2   2.2   .7  1.17
1.0   Ross,Terrence  Tor   16  .471   12.4   4.3   1.6   3.4   1.1   1.4   .5   .41
1.0   Copeland,Chris NYK   12  .574   19.4   4.0   1.0   3.0    .6   1.6   .7   .91
1.0   James,Bernard  Dal   12  .536    9.5   9.5    .5   4.6    .9   1.3  3.1   .78

0.8   Decolo,Nando   SAS   12  .514   10.3   4.9   5.7   2.8   1.3   3.2   .3   .49
0.8   Green,Draymond GSW   14  .404    7.0   8.4   1.6   4.9   1.4   1.7   .7   .32
0.8  Teletovic,Mirza Brk    9  .482   13.8   6.7   2.1   3.3    .9   1.1   .5   .86
0.7  Johnson,Orlando Ind   10  .563   12.8   6.5   2.6   3.3    .4   1.6   .5   .73
0.6 Motiejunas,Donat Hou    8  .579   17.7   6.3   2.8   4.1    .5   2.7   .3   .97
Too many guys with long names, makes the list look crowded.
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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A chart showing eWins per 484 minutes, Win Shares per 484 (to be on the same scale, 1.00 = avg), and PER
Ordered by WS/484 -minus- eW/484

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w-e   rookies 2012-13   tm    ws/484   PER   eW/484
.64    Leonard,Meyers   Por    1.23    12.9    .59
.54    Sullinger,Jared  Bos    1.51    13.5    .97
.45    Prigioni,Pablo   NYK    1.10    13.3    .65
.38    Jenkins,John     Atl     .76    11.6    .38
.28    Drummond,Andre   Det    1.80    22.3   1.52

.20    Decolo,Nando     SAS     .72    10.9    .52
.19    Ezeli,Festus     GSW     .43     8.3    .24
.19    Harkless,Maurice Orl     .75    12.9    .56
.17    Taylor,Jeffery   Cha     .34    10.1    .17
.17    Crowder,Jae      Dal     .64    11.0    .47

.10    Singler,Kyle     Det     .47     9.9    .37
.09    Valanciunas,Jona Tor    1.05    14.1    .96
.05    Roberts,Brian    NOH     .74    15.0    .69
.03    Barnes,Harrison  GSW     .62    11.0    .59

w-e   rookies 2012-13   tm    ws/484   PER   eW/484
-.05    Green,Draymond  GSW     .25     7.1    .30
-.06    Beal,Bradley    Was     .90    13.9    .96
-.09    Davis,Anthony   NOH    1.47    21.4   1.56
-.11    Ross,Terrence   Tor     .32    10.6    .43
-.14    Zeller,Tyler    Cle     .47    11.1    .61

-.15    Lillard,Damian  Por    1.02    16.8   1.17
-.18   Nicholson,Andrew Orl     .74    15.7    .92
-.37   Kidd-Gilchrist,M Cha     .40    13.7    .77
-.39    Henson,John     Mil     .76    16.9   1.15
-.41    Rivers,Austin   NOH    -.40     5.9    .01

-.44    Shved,Alexey    Min     .12    10.7    .56
-.52    Waiters,Dion    Cle     .34    13.9    .86
-.57    Robinson,Thomas Sac    -.05    10.9    .52
eWins likes players at the bottom a lot more than Win Shares does.
Season at 80%
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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Now at 90% of the season, rookies are projected to total 73 wins added. As usual, the East has more/better rookies and leads 41 to 32.

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e82    per36 rates   tm   Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
7.5   Lillard,Damian Por   38  .543   19.2   3.2   5.9    .8   2.8   .2  1.14
5.9   Davis,Anthony  NOH   29  .547   17.8  11.3   1.1   1.4   1.8  1.9  1.53
3.7   Beal,Bradley   Was   31  .512   17.5   4.4   2.7   1.0   1.9   .6   .93
3.6   Drummond,Andre Det   20  .553   13.3  13.7    .8   1.6   1.4  2.5  1.51
3.3 Kidd-Gilchrist,M Cha   26  .501   12.3   8.1   1.8   1.0   1.8  1.0   .80

3.2   Waiters,Dion   Cle   29  .486   18.0   3.2   3.3   1.2   2.4   .2   .81
3.1 Valanciunas,Jona Tor   23  .590   13.9  10.1   1.2    .4   2.2  1.9  1.04
2.7   Zeller,Tyler   Cle   26  .487   10.5   8.6   1.6    .7   1.8   .9   .65
2.6  Barnes,Harrison GSW   25  .522   13.3   5.7   1.7   1.0   1.7   .3   .61
2.5   Shved,Alexey   Min   25  .471   13.4   3.5   5.2   1.0   2.9   .5   .63

e82    per36 rates   tm   Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
2.4 Harkless,Maurice Orl   25  .515   11.1   6.7    .7   1.7   1.1  1.1   .62
2.3 Nicholson,Andrew Orl   17  .561   17.3   7.4    .9    .6   2.2   .9   .89
2.0   Roberts,Brian  NOH   16  .507   15.3   2.5   5.0   1.0   1.8   .1   .79
1.9  Sullinger,Jared Bos   20  .526   11.1  10.7   1.3    .8   1.1   .7   .96
1.9   Prigioni,Pablo NYK   15  .568    8.3   4.3   7.4   1.9   2.4   .0   .79

1.8   Singler,Kyle   Det   28  .510   11.3   5.4   1.2    .9   1.5   .5   .38
1.7   Henson,John    Mil   12  .482   15.1  11.2   1.2    .7   1.8  1.4  1.15
1.4   Leonard,Meyers Por   16  .594   11.2   7.9    .8    .3   1.3  1.1   .63
1.4   O'Quinn,Kyle   Orl   11  .560   13.3  11.0   2.1    .6   1.8  1.4  1.17
1.3 Beverley,Patrick Hou   17  .537   11.4   5.5   6.2   1.9   2.1   .8  1.05

e82    per36 rates   tm   Min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk  e484
1.3   Crowder,Jae    Dal   18  .493   10.2   4.7   2.3   1.7   1.3   .4   .47
1.3   Copeland,Chris NYK   13  .573   20.3   5.2   1.1    .6   2.1   .5   .92
1.2   Decolo,Nando   SAS   12  .562   11.5   5.0   5.1   1.2   3.0   .2   .67
1.1  Johnson,Orlando Ind   12  .565   13.6   6.3   2.9    .5   1.6   .5   .86
1.0   Ross,Terrence  Tor   17  .479   12.3   4.4   1.5   1.1   1.4   .4   .39

1.0  Robinson,Thomas Sac   16  .445    9.4  10.3   1.4   1.0   2.7   .9   .54
0.9   Jenkins,John   Atl   14  .570   14.1   3.8   1.8    .4   1.4   .4   .51
0.8   Green,Draymond GSW   14  .400    6.5   8.2   1.6   1.3   1.6   .7   .34
0.8 Motiejunas,Donat Hou   12  .539   16.0   5.7   2.3    .4   2.2   .4   .75
0.7  Teletovic,Mirza Brk    9  .482   12.1   7.0   1.8    .8   1.1   .5   .66
0.7   Ezeli,Festus   GSW   14  .444    5.3   9.4    .6    .8   2.1  2.1   .29
At 38.5 mpg, Damian Lillard has gotten more minutes as a rookie than anyone since LeBron in 2003-04 (39.5)
Iverson averaged 40.1 in 1997.
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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64 rookies with at least 140 minutes for a given team. Some may be listed with 2 teams.

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e82    per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
7.1   Lillard,Damian Por   39  .540   18.6   3.1   5.7    .8   2.8   .2   1.08
6.0   Davis,Anthony  NOH   29  .549   17.8  11.2   1.1   1.5   1.7  1.9   1.56
4.0   Drummond,Andre Det   21  .565   14.0  13.5    .8   1.6   1.6  2.3   1.57
3.4 Kidd-Gilchrist,M Cha   26  .498   12.2   8.4   1.8   1.0   1.8  1.0    .81
3.3 Valanciunas,Jona Tor   24  .603   14.6   9.7   1.1    .4   2.3  2.0   1.08

3.2   Beal,Bradley   Was   31  .509   17.2   4.4   2.7   1.0   1.9   .6    .90
2.9   Waiters,Dion   Cle   29  .485   18.0   3.2   3.3   1.2   2.5   .3    .79
2.5  Barnes,Harrison GSW   25  .517   13.2   5.9   1.7    .9   1.8   .2    .60
2.5   Zeller,Tyler   Cle   26  .478   10.5   8.2   1.5    .6   1.7  1.0    .60
2.3 Harkless,Maurice Orl   26  .498   11.1   6.3    .8   1.6   1.2  1.1    .57

e82    11 - 20       tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
2.3   Shved,Alexey   Min   24  .469   12.8   3.5   5.3   1.0   2.8   .4    .60
2.2 Nicholson,Andrew Orl   17  .551   16.5   7.3   1.0    .7   2.2   .9    .85
2.2   Henson,John    Mil   13  .489   15.4  11.8   1.2    .8   1.9  1.6   1.29
2.1   Roberts,Brian  NOH   17  .505   14.8   2.7   5.0    .9   1.8   .1    .75
2.0   Prigioni,Pablo NYK   16  .591    8.3   4.1   7.1   1.9   2.3   .1    .77

1.9   Singler,Kyle   Det   28  .511   11.5   5.5   1.1    .9   1.5   .5    .40
1.9  Sullinger,Jared Bos   20  .526   11.2  10.9   1.3    .9   1.1   .7   1.00
1.8   Copeland,Chris NYK   15  .577   21.0   5.0   1.2    .6   2.0   .6   1.03
1.5   Leonard,Meyers Por   17  .586   11.2   7.7    .9    .3   1.4  1.0    .61
1.5 Beverley,Patrick Hou   17  .544   11.1   5.4   6.3   1.8   2.1   .9   1.04

e82    21 - 30       tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
1.5   O'Quinn,Kyle   Orl   11  .528   12.3  11.2   2.3    .6   1.9  1.4   1.11
1.2   Decolo,Nando   SAS   13  .525   10.7   5.2   5.3   1.5   2.9   .2    .65
1.2   Crowder,Jae    Dal   17  .486    9.8   4.7   2.3   1.6   1.2   .5    .43
1.1   Ross,Terrence  Tor   17  .487   13.0   4.3   1.4   1.2   1.3   .4    .45
1.1   Jenkins,John   Atl   15  .568   15.0   3.6   2.0    .4   1.5   .4    .59

.93  Robinson,Thomas Sac   16  .445    9.5  10.3   1.4   1.0   2.7   .9    .55
.91  Moultrie,Arnett Phl   12  .588   11.5   9.1    .5   1.0   1.2   .6    .81
.90  Johnson,Orlando Ind   12  .518   12.4   6.1   2.8    .5   1.6   .4    .69
.86   Ezeli,Festus   GSW   14  .456    5.7   9.7    .7    .7   1.9  2.0    .37
.82   Scott,Mike     Atl    9  .523   16.7   9.9   1.0    .3   1.8   .2   1.06

e82    31 - 40       tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.78 Motiejunas,Donat Hou   12  .524   15.6   6.1   2.1    .4   2.3   .5    .70
.77   James,Bernard  Dal   10  .530    9.6   9.4    .5    .9   1.3  2.9    .81
.75   Green,Draymond GSW   13  .399    6.7   8.3   1.6   1.3   1.6   .7    .34
.74   Taylor,Jeffery Cha   20  .524   10.7   3.6   1.2   1.1   1.1   .3    .24
.70  Teletovic,Mirza Brk    9  .493   13.0   6.8   1.6    .8   1.3   .6    .68

.65   Fournier,Evan  Den   11  .589   16.6   2.8   3.5   1.5   2.5   .1    .74
.64   Acy,Quincy     Tor   12  .617   12.4   8.1   1.0   1.3   1.6  1.6    .90
.58   Barton,Will    Por   12  .432   10.6   5.8   2.1   1.3   2.2   .3    .32
.56   Jones,Terrence Hou   14  .507   12.5   8.3   2.1   1.5   1.6  2.0    .99
.48  Middleton,Khris Det   18  .525   12.2   3.8   1.8   1.1    .8   .2    

e82    41 - 50       tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.43   Freeland,Joel  Por    9  .431    8.7   8.6    .9    .9   1.3   .7    .43
.39  Robinson,Thomas Hou   13  .443   11.0  10.9   1.5   2.2   3.1   .6    .78
.30 Kravtsov,Viaches Det    9  .597   12.1   6.9   1.2    .7   2.0  1.1    .64
.30   Jones,Kevin    Cle   10  .415    8.6   8.1    .9    .9    .8   .4    .43
.26   Wroten,Tony    Mem    8  .453   12.1   3.6   5.4    .9   3.4   .5    .46

.22   Jones,Dequan   Orl   13  .478    9.5   4.6    .6    .8   1.3   .9    .13
.21   Bazemore,Kent  GSW    5  .446   13.3   2.5   2.4   1.9   2.0   .4    .36
.20   Jones,Perry    Okl    7  .413    9.9   7.4   1.4    .6   1.7   .7    .34
.16   Claver,Victor  Por   17  .458    7.7   5.3   1.7   1.1   1.8   .5    .10
.16   Lamb,Jeremy    Okl    6  .473   15.8   4.1   1.3    .4   1.3   .4    .53

e82    51 - 64       tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.12   Teague,Marquis Chi    8  .409    8.3   3.8   5.0    .7   2.8   .4    .14
.11   Baynes,Aron    SAS    9  .512   10.4   7.6   1.2    .2   2.5  1.3    .37
.08   Rivers,Austin  NOH   23  .425    9.2   3.0   2.8    .6   1.8   .2    .03
.07   Hansbrough,Ben Ind    7  .487   10.2   3.0   3.6   1.1   2.9   .3    .16
.07   English,Kim    Det   10  .470    9.5   3.1   1.9   1.3   1.5   .2    .08

.06   Taylor,Tyshawn Brk    6  .423   12.5   2.8   3.3   1.9   3.6   .0    .13
.05 Marshall,Kendall Phx   15  .453    6.6   2.1   6.0   1.0   2.7   .2    .04
.05   Garrett,Diante Phx    8  .370    7.9   3.3   5.9   2.1   3.4   .0    .16
.05   Holiday,Justin Phl   16  .404    9.8   3.4   3.0    .7   2.1  1.3    .17

-.03  Miller,Darius  NOH   13  .527    6.0   4.1   1.9    .8   1.1   .5   -.02
-.05  Lamb,Doron     Orl   12  .490    8.4   3.3   1.1    .7   1.1   .0   -.07
-.06  Sacre,Robert   LAL    6  .402    6.3   5.4   1.0    .0   1.6  1.5   -.14
-.09  Wayns,Maalik   Phl    8  .346   10.0   1.0   3.3    .6   2.6   .0   -.25
-.14  Lamb,Doron     Mil   12  .380    8.6   2.0   2.2    .8   1.9   .0   -.24
Rookies totaled 77 eWins for the season. In the East, 43.5 -- 33.5 in the West
Per 484 minutes, East rookies were a bit better, .69 - .62 in total.

Lillard is the first rookie since 1968 to lead the league in minutes.

Draymond Green's .404 TS% (.399 eff%) is the 2nd lowest by a rookie with >1000 minutes since 1970 (Fred Carter). Nik Tskitishvili shot .374 in 2003.
In eFG%, Green's .354 is better than Tskit's (.340); but before that it's all the way back to 1965 (Emmett Bryant)

Andre Drummond's .371 FT% (59/159) is worst ever by a rookie with >70 FTA. Only 3 times has any player ever shot as many and worse. (Ben Wallace, Chris Dudley, Brendan Haywood)
Drummond's eFG% of .610 just misses being the highest ever for a rookie with >300 FGA. Steve Johnson (KCK, 1982) shot .613

Jonas Valanciunas (Tor) really heated up toward season's end and wound up with a TS% of .618 . Only rookies with a better TS% in as many minutes: Steve Johnson, Jeff Ruland, and Otis Thorpe -- all in the early '80s. In the ABA, Artis Gilmore and Bobby Jones.
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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Only 3 at or over 4 e82. Essentially the same as last season pro-rated for length of season.

15 at or over 2 e82. (Last season had about 18 pro-rated.) What is league mean or median?
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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The all-rookie teams were announced. At first glance, it looks almost random. Guys who played the most minutes?

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1st Team         tm     WS   ws/48   PER   e484  eWins
Damian Lillard   Por   5.8   .088   16.4   1.08   7.1
Bradley Beal     Was   3.0   .082   13.6    .90   3.2
Anthony Davis    NOH   6.1   .159   21.7   1.56   6.0
Harrison Barnes  GSW   2.8   .065   11.0    .60   2.5
Dion Waiters     Cle   0.9   .026   13.7    .79   2.9

2nd Team         tm     WS   ws/48   PER   e484  eWins
Andre Drummond   Det   4.5   .172   21.6   1.57   4.0
Tyler Zeller     Cle   2.0   .048   11.0    .60   2.5
Kyle Singler     Det   2.3   .048   10.0    .40   1.9
Jo. Valanciunas  Tor   3.9   .127   15.6   1.08   3.3
M Kidd-Gilchrist Cha   2.1   .051   14.0    .81   3.4


Win Shares       tm     WS   ws/48   PER   e484  eWins
Pablo Prigioni   NYK   3.2   .123   13.0    .77   2.0
Jared Sullinger  Bos   2.7   .146   13.5   1.00   1.8
Maur. Harkless   Orl   2.4   .059   12.5    .57   2.3  
Meyers Leonard   Por   2.4   .097   12.1    .61   1.5
Patrick Beverly  Hou   2.2   .148   15.4   1.04   1.5

PER              tm     WS   ws/48   PER   e484  eWins
John Henson      Mil   1.9   .109   18.2   1.29   2.2
Chris Copeland   NYK   2.1   .117   16.8   1.03   1.8
Arnett Moultrie  Phl   1.7   .149   16.7    .81    .9
Kyle O'Quinn     Orl   1.4   .107   15.8   1.11   1.5
Andrew Nicholson Orl   1.7   .065   15.1    .85   2.2

eWins            tm     WS   ws/48   PER   e484  eWins
Alexey Shved     Min    .8   .020   11.0    .60   2.3
Brian Roberts    NOH   2.2   .078   14.6    .75   2.1
I've added 5 most Win Shares which did not make either team; top 5 PER (500+ minutes) not on either team; and another 2 with more eWins than Kyle Singler.

Drummond was the best or 2nd-best rookie, but was stuck at 20 mpg. He also played the same position as the other best rookie.
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Re: 2012-13 Rookies

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Mike G wrote:The all-rookie teams were announced. At first glance, it looks almost random. Guys who played the most minutes?
1st team is obvious: sorted by descending Points Per Game... http://bkref.com/tiny/Kp074
2nd Team is more of a question mark mostly because guards were totally ignored which is weird.
I guess you can't expect that much from this award.
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