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More than 6 months of additional talk since March and has anything actually been firmly decided? What?



Perhaps I mentioned the issue before but will teams be limited on number of players without local country passports or not? A pretty big question.

"Maverick Carter is no longer involved with the planned international basketball league..."

Despite Carter’s exit, the project is said to be still on track to start in fall 2026.

The group declined to share how much funding it has actually raised.


Group hints they have A WNBA player lined up. That's it? Could it be...CC? Can't hurt to hint I guess...

Not sounding that important, to me, now presumavly without LeBron?.

Women's touring competition more likely to assemble but market interest? Could they end up trying to start with the women's competition only at first?

NBA Europe envisions 12 permanent teams and 4 temporary at large.

Do the at large pay the standard franchise fee or something way less, more like rent? Get a similar or lesser or zero share of league media revenue? Minimum salary same as the others or lesser?

Will at large terms be poor, tolerable or more attractive than paying $500 million to enter? Pay the franchise fee to stay, after 1, 2 or more years? Fixed fee or subject to escalation?

Solvency safeguards? Operating money in escrow?

Rules & procedures for ownership changes? Relocation?

I didn't hear anything new or decided from yesterday's meeting.

If most or all A license Euroleague teams joined, what do they think they are worth to the venture? Legacy, fan base, facilities, etc.? Not zero, I would presume but it has yet to be stated publicly.

Will NBA seek / get exclusive negotiating period with potential media partners? How much threat is there of European teams and media cutting NBA out at the end? It be tempting.

Is the NBA seeking $500 million franchise fees AND 50% of league media revenue or 50% of total revenue? Is the ask actually under discussion already or just a looming concept? How many teams are capable / willing? It comes back to the promised new revenue and division.

Will the structure of team owners and a payout hungry NBA create a similar circumstance of apparent "squeezing" of players to under 25% of revenue? Could the players immediately or in future rebel, going independent or with a less split and ravenous partner group? Why not try to do a deal directly with a media company?

Or how about this for a new league:

Teams in Vancouver, Seattle, San Jose, San Diego, Las Vegas, Austin... and 2 or more somewhere in China and Japan.

US teams take 4 trips to far east to play the local teams and probably other US teams. Maybe even go to Phillipines, Indonesia, Malaysia for a few games. Eastern teams take longer, probably more frequent trips to U.S. One media partner or ideally 3.

Could seek in include cultural exchange activities. Work with major companies and state governments. A basketball alliance and beyond.

Stay separate or consider merger with NBA someday if terms are right.

More promising to me than an international F1 style touring league.

Ownership opportunies for LeBron, Curry, etc.

Durable fan bases and sponsorships.

"Following the meeting... the EuroLeague acknowledged that its collaboration proposal has not received a meaningful response."

NNA says it is still open to collaboration.

It is said that..."One of the major sticking points making an agreement extremely difficult is EuroLeague’s demand that all thirteen shareholder club be fully integrated into the NBA’s new European league."

It is suggested the NBA prefers to take 5-8
immediately and give others a chance to qualify.

EuroLeague: "...any potential framework for cooperation must respect the following core principles“.

Those principles are shared benefit, cultural integrity, competitive excellence, and European Governance."

The last will likely be a major sticking point along with the first. Cultural integrity could involve several things including broadcasting linguistics & control and local ownership.

The AI summary provides organization but not much, if any really new content:

https://www.google.com/search?q=nba+eur ... PIP0LrLoAE

While not necessarily to be considered accurate, it does suggest the NBA want both the franchise fees and 50% of league revenue. What revenue is league vs. team is not totally nailed down but the likely design is fairly easy to guess.

British basketball chaos deepens.

Euroleague coaches don't want change.

Positive news? ...

Just repetitive surface design talk.

City choices for NBA Europe have been hinted at but are not clear cut.

London and Manchester? Deep pocket buyers are potentially available and are the imperative but do they get them and do those cities work for basketball? Plenty of room to doubt.

Paris? Inevitable but who gets it and do they get enough support apart from other team in Paris and nearby?

Second team in France? Where? Who?

Do fans care about Middle East sovereign fund owners?

2 in Germany, 1 in Germany? Who buys?

Italy? Seriously?

When will Barca and Real speak up?

Turkey? Is one guaranteed enough for fans? Which?

Greece? Same deal.

Serbia? NBA likely to only offer provisional participation? Anybody willing to pay the proposed franchise fee there?

Can they really get 16 teams? 16 big fees?
If they give anyone a break, everyone will want the lower fee.

The squabbling seems more likely to drag on than get settled, unless the NBA eventually says this is the plan and everybody else either accepts or rejects. I see plenty of signs of rejection looming. Can NBA really proceed in face of that?

If NBA Europe takes 6 or less Euroleague teams, the Euroleague almost certainly continues as competition with probable new additions and could conceivably include brand new teams. If they take 10, maybe EuroLeague becomes lesser or regional or possibly disappears, but I doubt it, at least in short-term. The enforceability of their media deal will be a critical factor.

AS Monaco GM Oleksiy Yefimov:

"There are no concrete figures or models presented that could demonstrate how a new league would truly revolutionize revenue generation, fanbase growth, or the overall attractiveness and monetization of European basketball..."

Euroleague could easily go to 24-28 teams as a competitive league strategy for fan attention and loyalty.

Might be bad financially. If they actively take on new minority or majority owners, they might be able to handle it for awhile. But would it work long-term?

What the European market can produce on revenues is indeed one of the biggest questions with insufficient information. Won't really know until the new efforts are tested.

NBA Europe, Euroleague, international tour league... commercial growth & success with depend heavily on how many $1+ mil, $3 mil, $5 mil players they can attract, pay, keep.

Either alternative to Euroleague should plan on stealing players from Euroleague AND recruiting American players better than them and probably using more G leaguers.

What is the best mix of Euro and American players? Half n half? More than half American? It may vary some by market but the average probably matters.


Should drive oriented offensive players be emphasized? Probably. 3pts for dunks? I would.

ASVEL facing being kicked put of Euroleague next season or voluntary leaving. Can't or won't spend the $5.8 million minimum on salary. 20% below and probably still losing money.

That is one slice of the current commercial reality.

A side note as extremely unlikely to be asked to join NBA Europe or do so despite early suggestions.

Few Eurleague teams, it appears to me, can conceive of paying a $500+ million franchise fee without new partners or entirely new ownership.And yet they eon't come out and say it and never will the NBA. Either they can pivot into it or they can't. Totally different processes based on the one reality or the other.