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improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:24 pm
by Mike G
Ranked by eWins above and beyond last year's rates in this year's minutes. Does not include last night's games.
This season is on the left, last year on the right.
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.23 Scottie Barnes Tor .556 18.7 9.4 4.5 1.80 .518 13.9 7.3 4.2 .98
.92 Tyrese Maxey Phl .588 24.0 4.5 5.5 1.85 .597 21.4 3.4 3.2 1.25
.89 Shai G-A OKC .626 32.2 5.8 5.6 2.93 .610 30.4 4.8 4.5 2.28
.85 Alperen Şengün Hou .580 23.5 10.1 5.3 2.14 .588 16.5 11.7 3.8 1.43
.82 Dennis Schröder Tor .543 16.4 3.4 6.4 1.07 LAL .535 13.2 2.9 4.3 .48
.78 Nikola Jokić Den .624 31.2 13.9 8.2 3.47 .687 28.2 13.5 8.4 2.96
.78 Anthony Edwards Min .573 27.7 6.1 4.5 2.03 .555 22.3 5.9 3.6 1.44
.71 Reggie Jackson Den .589 17.5 3.3 4.8 .97 .511 13.0 3.2 4.2 .40
.70 Franz Wagner Orl .556 21.0 6.8 3.3 1.54 .581 19.1 4.8 3.1 1.07
.66 T. Haliburton Ind .662 25.9 4.1 9.1 2.26 .616 20.6 3.9 8.9 1.71
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.60 Duncan Robinson Mia .645 17.5 3.3 2.8 .81 .530 12.1 3.8 2.0 .31
.58 Lonnie Walker Brk .626 23.8 4.3 2.2 1.37 LAL .564 16.3 3.0 1.4 .63
.55 Karl-A Towns Min .609 25.6 9.9 2.9 1.97 .607 21.8 9.0 4.2 1.59
.55 Moses Moody GSW .603 15.2 6.3 1.8 1.01 .596 11.9 4.5 1.7 .35
.54 Alex Caruso Chi .688 15.3 5.1 2.9 1.00 .580 8.1 4.6 3.5 .42
.53 Jabari Smith Hou .596 16.1 9.3 1.5 1.16 .508 11.9 8.7 1.2 .70
.53 Cam Thomas Brk .555 26.3 4.3 2.1 1.70 .556 20.7 3.5 2.4 .95
.50 D'Angelo Russell LAL .591 19.3 3.9 6.3 1.38 .598 18.8 3.4 5.5 1.04
.49 De'Aaron Fox Sac .582 27.2 4.8 5.4 2.19 .589 24.6 4.8 5.3 1.73
.47 Christian Braun Den .542 13.5 7.2 2.7 .86 .561 9.8 5.7 1.4 .38
.46 Eric Gordon Phx .600 16.2 2.6 3.0 .75 LAC .581 14.1 2.5 2.7 .40
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:34 pm
by Mike G
Now with slightly outdated stats, the slow starters: Those underperforming relative to last year but still getting minutes:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-1.06 Christian Wood LAL .535 10.7 10.0 1.1 .52 Dal .612 22.1 10.5 2.2 1.77
-.79 Nikola Vučević Chi .502 13.6 10.7 2.8 1.14 .590 18.5 12.2 2.8 1.71
-.71 Andrew Wiggins GSW .485 13.7 5.7 1.3 .36 .560 17.1 5.6 2.1 1.10
-.69 Jrue Holiday Bos .525 12.3 7.5 4.8 .87 Mil .580 20.6 5.4 6.9 1.48
-.63 Jaren Jackson Mem .525 20.0 7.3 1.9 1.32 .602 23.1 8.4 1.0 1.89
-.62 Aaron Gordon Den .518 12.5 7.9 3.2 .90 .604 19.0 8.3 2.9 1.46
-.60 Deandre Ayton Por .599 14.1 12.5 1.5 1.25 Phx .609 21.2 12.1 1.7 1.80
-.59 Jordan Poole Was .498 15.5 3.2 3.1 .47 GSW .564 22.0 3.3 4.3 1.05
-.59 Klay Thompson GSW .540 16.6 4.6 2.3 .66 .572 21.6 4.5 2.1 1.20
-.57 Giannis A Mil .625 30.0 11.3 4.2 2.56 .589 34.2 12.8 5.4 3.02
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.56 Jimmy Butler Mia .589 22.4 6.1 3.6 1.70 .629 25.3 6.9 5.0 2.24
-.55 Damian Lillard Mil .595 24.1 4.7 5.8 1.70 Por .630 30.4 4.9 6.0 2.17
-.53 Pascal Siakam Tor .535 18.8 7.5 4.2 1.27 .555 21.5 8.0 4.7 1.68
-.49 Jaylen Brown Bos .533 21.8 5.1 3.1 1.37 .574 26.1 6.9 3.0 1.79
-.49 Gary Trent Tor .497 12.5 2.8 1.4 .36 .553 17.7 3.1 1.5 .94
-.49 Isaiah Stewart Det .552 10.8 8.4 1.2 .43 .550 12.3 10.4 1.4 .85
-.49 Bobby Portis Mil .532 13.8 9.8 1.4 1.08 .570 18.3 12.7 1.7 1.61
-.45 Quentin Grimes NYK .507 8.5 2.1 1.7 -.05 .614 13.4 4.0 2.1 .54
-.45 Zach LaVine Chi .558 19.3 5.1 2.8 1.11 .597 24.5 4.6 3.5 1.49
-.43 DeMar DeRozan Chi .538 19.2 3.4 4.1 1.26 .580 23.6 4.7 4.1 1.61
-.43 Norman Powell LAC .622 18.0 2.8 1.2 .71 .600 22.4 4.1 2.1 1.21
Corroboration from other stats:
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2023-24 Min PER WS/48 BPM 2223: PER WS/48 BPM
C Wood 425 9.6 .041 -4.9 20.6 .132 1.7
N Vučević 720 15.0 .054 -1.6 19.1 .145 2.7
A Wiggins 490 8.7 -.016 -6.6 14.7 .091 -0.5
J Holiday 587 12.8 .103 1.0 19.2 .148 3.1
J Jackson 585 16.4 .080 -1.1 21.6 .177 2.8
A Gordon 575 14.4 .085 -0.6 19.5 .158 2.1
D Ayton 575 16.7 .119 -0.9 19.9 .147 0.9
J Poole 529 10.5 -.070 -6.9 14.6 .063 -1.9
K Thompson 567 10.8 .030 -2.4 14.7 .066 -0.3
Giannis 652 29.0 .205 6.6 29.0 .204 8.5
2023-24 Min PER WS/48 BPM 2223: PER WS/48 BPM
J Butler 541 22.4 .189 3.3 27.6 .277 8.7
D Lillard 630 22.4 .188 3.1 26.7 .205 7.1
P Siakam 686 16.0 .082 -0.2 20.3 .141 3.1
J Brown 621 15.7 .082 -0.3 19.1 .100 1.3
G Trent 438 9.2 .031 -3.5 15.0 .102 0.2
I Stewart 626 10.1 .031 -3.5 13.1 .068 -2.1
B Portis 478 14.8 .085 -2.6 17.8 .139 0.7
Q Grimes 393 5.9 .051 -3.1 11.7 .108 -0.1
Z LaVine 635 15.9 .070 0.0 19.0 .123 1.9
D DeRozan 673 18.9 .116 1.5 20.6 .153 2.0
N Powell 451 13.3 .111 -0.6 17.1 .107 0.3
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
Only a couple cases of summary stats that do not concur with
decline.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:07 pm
by Crow
Tons of major concerns / stories with the underperformers, though some cases of present time "underperformance" should always be expected.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:30 pm
by Mike G
The Bulls' "big 3" total almost 2 fewer wins in their minutes this year; even worse when they aren't playing.
Zero improvement from those 3 would put them at 10-12, rather than 8-14.
League-wide, there's net zero improvement from returning players. An extraordinary rookie class might tilt it into the negative, but I've opted to assume that's not a factor. I could be wrong; should check with other stats.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:19 am
by Crow
Gordon's decline here seems worth noting.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:17 pm
by Mike G
At almost 31% of the season:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.46 Scottie Barnes Tor .573 19.1 9.3 4.5 1.75 .518 13.9 7.3 4.2 .98
1.25 Tyrese Maxey Phl .590 24.5 3.9 5.6 1.88 .597 21.4 3.4 3.2 1.25
1.06 Shai G-A OKC .623 32.1 5.6 5.4 2.87 .610 30.4 4.8 4.5 2.28
.92 Reggie Jackson Den .574 17.5 3.1 4.8 .99 .511 13.0 3.2 4.2 .40
.91 Alperen Şengün Hou .566 22.4 9.9 5.0 1.98 .588 16.5 11.7 3.8 1.43
.87 Karl-A Towns Min .622 26.7 10.6 2.8 2.08 .607 21.8 9.0 4.2 1.59
.84 Duncan Robinson Mia .634 17.5 3.4 3.1 .83 .530 12.1 3.8 2.0 .31
.80 Dennis Schröder Tor .528 14.5 3.3 5.9 .92 LAL .535 13.2 2.9 4.3 .48
.72 T Haliburton Ind .650 24.6 4.6 8.9 2.15 .616 20.6 3.9 8.9 1.71
.72 Jabari Smith Hou .572 15.1 10.2 1.8 1.16 .508 11.9 8.7 1.2 .70
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.69 Anthony Edwards Min .556 26.3 5.8 4.7 1.87 .555 22.3 5.9 3.6 1.44
.65 Mike Conley Min .612 14.9 3.7 6.5 1.19 .579 13.0 3.2 6.4 .79
.65 Joel Embiid Phl .630 37.9 12.7 5.5 3.49 .637 35.8 11.5 3.7 3.11
.64 Franz Wagner Orl .535 19.5 6.6 3.5 1.39 .581 19.1 4.8 3.1 1.07
.62 Austin Reaves LAL .590 17.3 5.8 4.7 1.10 .669 16.5 3.7 3.3 .75
.59 Alex Caruso Chi .678 15.3 5.2 2.8 .98 .580 8.1 4.6 3.5 .42
.59 Bog. Bogdanović Atl .609 19.1 4.3 2.4 1.19 .582 16.0 3.9 2.7 .81
.59 Coby White Chi .591 16.8 4.1 4.0 .95 .568 13.8 4.4 3.4 .69
.58 Christian Braun Den .556 14.1 6.7 2.4 .84 .561 9.8 5.7 1.4 .38
.55 Lonnie Walker Brk .626 23.8 4.3 2.1 1.33 LAL .564 16.3 3.0 1.4 .63
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-1.08 Christian Wood LAL .541 11.4 10.3 1.3 .64 Dal .612 22.1 10.5 2.2 1.77
-1.00 Jrue Holiday Bos .543 12.2 6.9 4.1 .83 Mil .580 20.6 5.4 6.9 1.48
-.93 Jimmy Butler Mia .581 21.5 5.8 4.0 1.60 .629 25.3 6.9 5.0 2.24
-.90 Andrew Wiggins GSW .495 13.6 6.0 1.2 .38 .560 17.1 5.6 2.1 1.10
-.86 Deandre Ayton Por .589 13.3 12.5 1.4 1.12 Phx .609 21.2 12.1 1.7 1.80
-.85 Jordan Poole Was .511 15.4 3.0 3.0 .42 GSW .564 22.0 3.3 4.3 1.05
-.78 Nikola Vučević Chi .501 14.1 11.3 2.9 1.26 .590 18.5 12.2 2.8 1.71
-.76 Isaiah Stewart Det .557 10.0 8.2 1.2 .31 .550 12.3 10.4 1.4 .85
-.72 Gary Trent Tor .483 11.5 2.7 1.6 .26 .553 17.7 3.1 1.5 .94
-.72 Damian Lillard Mil .600 24.3 4.7 5.6 1.71 Por .630 30.4 4.9 6.0 2.17
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.71 Aaron Gordon Den .525 12.8 8.1 3.1 .95 .604 19.0 8.3 2.9 1.46
-.69 Brook Lopez Mil .607 14.0 5.7 1.3 .91 .623 19.0 7.6 1.3 1.37
-.65 Jaren Jackson Mem .546 22.0 6.5 1.6 1.43 .602 23.1 8.4 1.0 1.89
-.57 Klay Thompson GSW .562 17.7 4.6 2.0 .79 .572 21.6 4.5 2.1 1.20
-.54 Stephen Curry GSW .639 29.8 5.1 3.8 1.87 .647 30.4 6.4 5.2 2.24
-.54 Julius Randle NYK .541 20.5 10.2 4.5 1.56 .570 24.2 10.4 3.5 1.90
-.53 DeMar DeRozan Chi .535 19.3 3.6 4.2 1.28 .580 23.6 4.7 4.1 1.61
-.53 Buddy Hield Ind .571 14.0 4.6 2.5 .63 .610 17.8 5.8 2.6 1.09
-.52 Jaylen Brown Bos .556 23.0 5.0 3.2 1.44 .574 26.1 6.9 3.0 1.79
-.52 Jayson Tatum Bos .593 27.5 8.6 3.4 2.04 .595 29.5 8.6 4.0 2.36
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:32 pm
by Mike G
Alternative MIP list using BPM, WS/48, eW/484, and PER.
All these (* minutes)are converted to "wins" which are weighted-averaged:
xyzW =(bpmW*4 + WS*3 + eW*3 + perW*2)/12
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xyzW+ 2023-24 Tm min e484 PER WS/48 BPM '23: e484 PER WS/48 BPM
1.63 Scottie Barnes Tor 911 1.75 21.4 .155 6.1 .98 15.5 .090 0.4
1.49 Tyrese Maxey Phl 925 1.88 21.7 .214 5.0 1.25 17.0 .128 0.6
1.15 Reggie Jackson Den 722 .99 15.5 .107 .2 .40 10.0 .018 -3.9
1.12 Duncan Robinson Mia 734 .83 13.8 .101 -.4 .31 7.8 .035 -5.0
1.12 Shai G-A OKC 832 2.87 30.8 .297 10.8 2.28 27.2 .226 7.3
.96 Jabari Smith Hou 718 1.16 13.5 .124 .0 .70 11.2 .037 -3.7
.86 Alperen Şengün Hou 772 1.98 20.8 .161 5.0 1.43 19.7 .115 1.4
.84 Joel Embiid Phl 783 3.49 34.4 .316 12.2 3.11 31.4 .259 9.2
.76 Vince Williams Mem 300 .73 11.3 .117 -1.4 * .02 3.9 -.049 -8.5
.77 Anthony Edwards Min 745 1.87 19.3 .134 3.3 1.44 17.4 .064 1.0
xyzW+ 2023-24 Tm min e484 PER WS/48 BPM '23: e484 PER WS/48 BPM
.70 Mike Conley Min 739 1.19 15.5 .197 3.1 .79 14.7 .130 0.9
.66 Paolo Banchero Orl 840 1.42 16.5 .083 1.1 1.16 14.9 .047 -1.5
.65 Dennis Schröder Tor 832 .92 14.2 .098 -1.2 LAL .48 11.5 .068 -2.9
.62 CJ McCollum NOP 456 1.59 20.0 .159 4.5 1.19 15.6 .078 0.8
.62 P Pritchard Bos 504 .70 12.2 .135 .5 .50 10.3 .045 -3.4
.61 Jeff Green Hou 365 .86 15.8 .190 1.2 Den .47 11.0 .074 -3.4
.61 Derrick White Bos 712 1.34 17.9 .197 4.7 1.02 15.4 .154 2.4
.58 Kevin Love Mia 404 1.77 18.5 .174 4.1 1.20 13.1 .099 0.6
.59 Terry Rozier Cha 571 1.28 19.5 .094 2.0 1.02 14.7 .037 -0.6
.59 Bog. Bogdanović Atl 671 1.19 17.6 .123 2.8 .81 14.2 .088 0.5
xyzW+ 2023-24 Tm min e484 PER WS/48 BPM '23: e484 PER WS/48 BPM
.59 Malik Beasley Mil 727 .66 12.5 .110 .2 LAL .69 10.9 .032 -2.0
.57 S Fontecchio Uta 504 .53 11.7 .059 -1.8 .24 8.0 -.004 -5.2
.59 LeBron James LAL 849 2.30 24.7 .179 8.5 2.17 23.9 .138 6.1
.56 Dario Šarić GSW 549 1.29 16.4 .141 2.1 OKC .98 13.5 .099 -1.4
.56 Jalen Suggs Orl 603 1.03 14.3 .115 1.2 .67 12.5 .053 -1.0
.54 Moses Moody GSW 489 .84 14.4 .114 .7 .35 10.3 .076 -2.6
.56 Karl-A Towns Min 828 2.08 20.1 .182 3.5 1.59 18.8 .133 3.0
.54 Jabari Walker Por 448 .83 13.5 .081 -3.1 .37 9.6 .015 -6.1
.57 Coby White Chi 972 .95 15.3 .102 .7 .69 12.5 .087 -0.8
.54 J Valančiūnas NOP 742 1.75 20.7 .194 2.5 1.84 19.3 .142 -0.4
xyzW+ 2023-24 Tm min e484 PER WS/48 BPM '23: e484 PER WS/48 BPM
.53 Alex Caruso Chi 505 .98 16.7 .137 3.7 .42 11.5 .109 1.1
.54 T Haliburton Ind 742 2.15 26.4 .226 8.4 1.71 23.6 .195 7.2
.51 Lonnie Walker Brk 362 1.33 18.3 .104 2.7 LAL .63 12.2 .066 -1.4
.53 Dorian F-Smith Brk 709 .53 12.2 .097 - .5 .29 9.2 .051 -2.0
.50 Tari Eason Hou 357 1.51 17.4 .150 2.6 1.00 15.2 .070 -1.7
.46 Jae'Sean Tate Hou 391 .75 11.9 .143 .7 .60 12.2 .049 -3.5
.46 Naji Marshall NOP 362 1.04 15.9 .139 1.3 .59 11.4 .068 -1.9
.47 Killian Hayes Det 660 .56 11.7 .036 -1.7 .43 10.2 -.012 -3.8
.45 Goga Bitadze Orl 494 1.32 18.1 .201 3.2 1.11 17.1 .141 0.3
.44 Aaron Holiday Hou 394 .70 12.0 .131 .0 Atl .16 9.4 .053 -2.0
* - Vince Williams played just 104 min. last year; all others at least 450 (Bitadze).
eW/484 are a day old.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:35 pm
by Mike G
Season at 38%
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eW+ per36 '24: tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 '23: Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
2.00 Sco. Barnes Tor .579 20.2 9.9 4.6 1.83 .518 13.9 7.3 4.2 .98
1.61 Shai G-A OKC .631 34.1 5.9 5.3 3.01 .610 30.4 4.8 4.5 2.28
1.48 Al. Şengün Hou .584 24.2 10.4 5.0 2.13 .588 16.5 11.7 3.8 1.43
1.38 Tyrese Maxey Phl .585 24.9 3.9 5.3 1.80 .597 21.4 3.4 3.2 1.25
1.18 Du. Robinson Mia .641 18.3 3.6 3.3 .94 .530 12.1 3.8 2.0 .31
1.01 Ant. Edwards Min .567 27.6 6.0 4.6 1.92 .555 22.3 5.9 3.6 1.44
1.01 Jabari Smith Hou .595 16.1 10.1 1.6 1.21 .508 11.9 8.7 1.2 .70
1.00 Reggie Jackson Den .552 17.3 3.2 5.1 .96 .511 13.0 3.2 4.2 .40
.96 Franz Wagner Orl .552 20.7 6.6 3.4 1.46 .581 19.1 4.8 3.1 1.07
.95 Derrick White Bos .639 20.2 4.3 4.9 1.48 .595 15.8 4.5 4.4 1.02
eW+ per36 min: tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.81 Mike Conley Min .640 15.8 3.6 6.3 1.19 .579 13.0 3.2 6.4 .79
.81 Jabari Walker Por .569 13.6 10.3 1.1 1.00 .490 9.5 7.6 1.6 .37
.80 Dennis Schröder Tor .534 13.9 3.2 5.9 .83 LAL .535 13.2 2.9 4.3 .48
.78 Joel Embiid Phl .635 39.3 12.7 5.3 3.52 .637 35.8 11.5 3.7 3.11
.77 Austin Reaves LAL .602 18.2 5.6 4.7 1.10 .669 16.5 3.7 3.3 .75
.76 Alex Caruso Chi .663 15.2 5.4 2.8 .95 .580 8.1 4.6 3.5 .42
.69 T Haliburton Ind .632 23.7 4.4 9.3 2.02 .616 20.6 3.9 8.9 1.71
.68 De'Aaron Fox Sac .593 28.5 4.8 4.8 2.07 .589 24.6 4.8 5.3 1.73
.65 Coby White Chi .566 16.9 4.4 4.0 .92 .568 13.8 4.4 3.4 .69
.65 Bog. Bogdanović Atl .587 18.7 4.2 2.6 1.14 .582 16.0 3.9 2.7 .81
.65 Kevin Love Mia .596 17.2 13.6 4.3 1.87 .542 13.7 12.3 2.9 1.20
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:47 pm
by Crow
Did not see the case for re-signing Reggie Jackson but it has worked.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:06 pm
by Mike G
https://www.espn.com/fantasy/basketball ... ved-player
Article lists betting-type numbers for most likely to win MIP.
Maxey
Sengun
Coby White
S Barnes
Haliburton
Simons
Cam Thomas
F Wagner
Banchero
Sharpe
Tyrese Maxey is odds on favorite, according to author Eric Moody.
Paragraphs are written about the top 3, then skip down to the other Tyrese, then the 2 Magics (as one?).
Scottie Barnes is not mentioned by name.
The factors mentioned are:
- must appear in 65 games
- should play for a middling or better team
- should have big per-game increases, esp. scoring; not just since last season but any time previously.
No mention of Shai, Ant Edwards, Reaves, Fox.
Maxey was #2 in the first installment of the thread; since dropped (along with his rates) to #4.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... plits/2024
Note the month by month.
This season's per game improvement over career best averages in points, rebounds, and assists.
T is just the sum of those per game gains.
Some
advanced stats, also the amount better than previous bests.
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Improved: Pts Reb Ast = T PER WS/48 BPM
S Barnes 5.7 2.5 0.9 9.1 6.1 .030 5.1
Maxey 5.6 0.5 2.1 8.2 3.7 .063 3.5
Sengun 6.5 0.1 1.4 8.0 3.5 .071 5.0
H'burton 4.0 -0.1 2.3 6.2 2.7 .039 1.3
Edwards 1.7 -0.5 0.7 1.9 2.6 .049 2.5
Shai 0.0 -0.3 0.9 0.6 4.2 .084 3.6
Barnes 2 years ago had better numbers than last year. This partly explains his separation from the pack in my tables, coming off a 'down year'. (Others are relative to last year.)
Still he has the biggest gains from previous best.
Shai's per game avg's are not changed much. Fewer minutes, with steals up, TO way down.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:13 pm
by Mike G
Team by team listing of players up or down at least .35 eWins, compared to last year's rates.
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eW+ Atl Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
+.68 Bg Bogdanović .570 18.3 4.2 2.5 1.12 .582 16.0 3.9 2.7 .81
+.37 Jalen Johnson .653 16.1 9.6 2.4 1.19 .547 11.4 9.5 2.1 .96
-.47 Clint Capela .595 13.3 14.8 1.1 1.46 .648 15.7 15.0 .9 1.76
-.60 Onyeka Okongwu .649 12.2 9.8 1.6 .95 .665 14.9 11.1 1.2 1.34
-.73 Saddiq Bey .558 11.1 7.4 1.1 .56 .558 15.4 6.1 1.5 .91
eW+ Bos Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.08 Derrick White .643 20.6 4.5 4.9 1.49 .595 15.8 4.5 4.4 1.02
+.46 Pa. Pritchard .536 11.9 5.4 4.4 .76 .534 13.5 4.7 3.0 .50
-.52 Jayson Tatum .598 28.5 8.5 3.8 2.10 .595 29.5 8.6 4.0 2.36
-.69 Jaylen Brown .562 24.0 5.3 3.3 1.45 .574 26.1 6.9 3.0 1.79
-1.31 Jrue Holiday .562 13.3 6.8 4.2 .86 Mil .580 20.6 5.4 6.9 1.48
eW+ Brk Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.67 Day'Ron Sharpe .584 15.5 15.5 2.5 1.68 .572 13.4 12.4 1.9 1.18
.47 Lonnie Walker .610 22.7 4.5 2.1 1.20 LAL .564 16.3 3.0 1.4 .63
.42 Dennis Smith .490 11.1 6.0 6.0 .95 Cha .469 9.6 4.1 5.2 .51
.42 Dorian F-Smith .574 10.6 6.1 1.3 .45 .525 8.6 5.8 1.5 .29
.37 Royce O'Neale .536 9.0 6.5 3.4 .53 .535 9.0 5.7 3.5 .38
.36 Trendon Watford .598 16.2 8.6 3.6 1.21 Por .615 12.7 7.4 3.2 .75
-.41 Sp. Dinwiddie .520 13.3 4.4 5.7 .83 .567 16.8 3.7 5.8 1.05
-.47 Cam. Johnson .591 16.7 6.0 2.4 1.02 .609 19.2 5.6 1.9 1.33
eW+ Cha Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.51 Terry Rozier .563 20.2 3.9 5.2 1.28 .512 18.1 4.1 4.0 1.02
eW+ Chi Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.87 Alex Caruso .641 15.4 5.2 2.9 .96 .580 8.1 4.6 3.5 .42
.74 Coby White .568 17.4 4.6 4.0 .92 .568 13.8 4.4 3.4 .69
-.51 Zach LaVine .559 19.7 5.1 2.8 1.08 .597 24.5 4.6 3.5 1.49
-.63 DeMar DeRozan .555 20.3 3.7 4.2 1.33 .580 23.6 4.7 4.1 1.61
-.88 Nikola Vučević .508 15.0 11.1 2.9 1.28 .590 18.5 12.2 2.8 1.71
eW+ Cle Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.67 Caris LeVert .530 18.2 4.5 4.0 1.14 .539 13.8 4.9 3.9 .78
.41 Jarrett Allen .677 19.8 12.3 2.8 1.75 .658 17.3 11.7 1.6 1.58
-.52 Darius Garland .565 21.2 3.0 4.9 1.04 .578 22.2 2.9 6.8 1.45
eW+ Dal Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.38 Luka Dončić .604 31.8 7.7 7.0 2.55 .595 30.9 9.0 7.1 2.74
-.47 Grant Williams .558 9.5 4.6 1.6 .18 Bos .597 11.1 6.3 2.0 .48
eW+ Den Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.14 Reggie Jackson .550 17.5 3.4 5.3 .98 .511 13.0 3.2 4.2 .40
.78 Jamal Murray .580 24.5 4.9 5.7 1.83 .565 20.5 4.6 5.4 1.35
.65 Christian Braun .547 13.4 6.6 2.3 .75 .561 9.8 5.7 1.4 .38
-.45 Michael Porter .592 17.9 8.5 1.3 1.18 .616 21.2 7.3 1.0 1.40
-.72 Aaron Gordon .578 15.3 7.7 2.8 1.07 .604 19.0 8.3 2.9 1.46
eW+ Det Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.35 Jalen Duren .660 15.4 14.2 2.2 1.35 .642 12.5 12.8 1.3 1.13
-.48 Bj. Bogdanović .563 17.1 4.2 2.1 .67 .616 22.5 4.3 2.3 1.13
-.70 Isaiah Stewart .574 10.0 8.6 1.4 .41 .550 12.3 10.4 1.4 .85
eW+ GSW Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.69 Moses Moody .595 15.4 6.4 1.3 .88 .596 11.9 4.5 1.7 .35
.65 Dario Šarić .606 17.5 10.1 3.0 1.36 OKC .580 14.7 9.0 2.7 .98
-.39 Kevon Looney .613 9.2 12.9 3.4 1.06 .626 10.2 14.0 3.0 1.35
-.61 Chris Paul .538 10.2 5.0 7.3 .90 Phx .547 14.5 4.9 8.3 1.29
-.81 Klay Thompson .568 18.0 4.3 2.1 .78 .572 21.6 4.5 2.1 1.20
-1.14 Stephen Curry .617 28.6 4.7 3.9 1.71 .647 30.4 6.4 5.2 2.24
-1.17 Andrew Wiggins .491 12.9 5.9 1.4 .37 .560 17.1 5.6 2.1 1.10
eW+ Hou Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.60 Alperen Şengün .583 24.7 10.1 4.9 2.10 .588 16.5 11.7 3.8 1.43
1.01 Jabari Smith .593 15.5 10.1 1.5 1.14 .508 11.9 8.7 1.2 .70
.53 Aaron Holiday .573 13.6 3.8 3.0 .55 Atl .523 8.5 3.1 2.8 .16
.52 Tari Eason .523 14.5 11.4 1.7 1.48 .519 12.4 10.2 1.4 1.00
-.36 Jock Landale .417 5.7 7.3 1.7 .15 Phx .585 15.6 10.2 2.0 1.15
eW+ Ind Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.78 T Haliburton .625 23.5 4.7 9.4 2.01 .616 20.6 3.9 8.9 1.71
.45 T.J. McConnell .562 14.8 6.4 8.1 1.42 .586 13.4 5.4 7.3 .94
.43 Jalen Smith .739 22.1 11.4 1.6 1.69 .557 15.2 11.0 1.5 1.19
.42 Aaron Nesmith .645 14.5 4.7 1.1 .75 .558 12.5 5.5 1.5 .55
.41 Isaiah Jackson .676 17.2 11.2 1.6 1.62 .582 13.5 9.5 1.4 1.14
-.36 Bruce Brown .562 11.4 5.6 2.4 .52 Den .565 13.5 5.5 3.4 .76
-.74 Buddy Hield .574 14.5 4.6 2.4 .65 .610 17.8 5.8 2.6 1.09
eW+ LAC Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.64 Ivica Zubac .649 17.1 13.3 1.3 1.48 .646 13.8 13.0 1.1 1.20
-.41 James Harden .635 19.5 5.1 7.0 1.48 Phl .595 20.3 6.5 9.0 1.72
-.62 Terance Mann .494 8.0 4.7 2.1 .21 .611 13.3 5.4 2.9 .66
-.64 Norman Powell .633 18.9 3.3 1.1 .81 .600 22.4 4.1 2.1 1.21
eW+ LAL Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.79 Austin Reaves .599 17.9 5.2 4.8 1.05 .669 16.5 3.7 3.3 .75
-.55 J Vanderbilt .385 3.2 8.0 1.5 .08 .595 11.0 11.1 2.8 1.05
-.66 Anthony Davis .606 24.7 12.1 2.6 2.26 .613 26.6 13.1 2.2 2.56
-1.27 Ch Wood .570 12.3 10.5 1.4 .71 Dal .612 22.1 10.5 2.2 1.77
eW+ Mem Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.46 Ziaire Williams .513 12.4 6.5 2.1 .51 .507 11.3 4.8 1.8 .21
-.39 Xavier Tillman .408 6.8 8.3 2.1 .63 .612 12.8 9.1 2.4 1.11
-.62 Bi Biyombo .550 7.1 9.5 2.0 .40 Phx .546 9.7 10.7 1.9 .87
-1.01 Jaren Jackson .569 22.4 6.4 1.6 1.41 .602 23.1 8.4 1.0 1.89
eW+ Mia Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.17 Duncan Robinson .628 17.6 3.4 3.2 .85 .530 12.1 3.8 2.0 .31
.84 Kevin Love .603 18.6 13.6 4.1 1.92 .542 13.7 12.3 2.9 1.20
-1.18 Jimmy Butler .581 21.6 5.7 4.0 1.48 .629 25.3 6.9 5.0 2.24
eW+ Mil Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.44 Cameron Payne .597 13.1 2.6 4.3 .50 Phx .508 15.9 4.0 6.5 .93
-.55 Giannis A .634 32.6 11.7 4.6 2.76 .589 34.2 12.8 5.4 3.02
-.68 Bobby Portis .566 15.8 10.0 1.3 1.18 .570 18.3 12.7 1.7 1.61
-1.30 Brook Lopez .579 12.6 5.8 1.2 .76 .623 19.0 7.6 1.3 1.37
-1.39 Da Lillard .593 24.0 4.4 5.4 1.56 Por .630 30.4 4.9 6.0 2.17
eW+ Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.23 Ant. Edwards .575 28.7 5.8 4.3 1.93 .555 22.3 5.9 3.6 1.44
.73 Mike Conley .629 15.2 3.4 6.4 1.09 .579 13.0 3.2 6.4 .79
.56 Karl-A Towns .609 25.5 10.3 2.7 1.79 .607 21.8 9.0 4.2 1.59
-.38 Kyle Anderson .498 9.2 6.0 5.2 .58 .575 10.9 6.8 4.9 .86
eW+ NOP Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.69 CJ McCollum .603 22.0 4.8 4.3 1.57 .536 19.3 4.7 4.9 1.19
.65 Dyson Daniels .509 8.3 6.2 3.4 .60 .498 6.6 6.7 3.8 .27
.42 Naji Marshall .570 14.3 7.4 3.3 .93 .530 12.4 5.8 3.1 .59
-.46 Z Williamson .601 26.4 7.3 4.3 1.85 .636 29.0 8.0 4.2 2.14
eW+ NYK Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.74 Do DiVincenzo .635 18.1 5.3 2.7 1.17 GSW .589 11.8 6.1 3.8 .75
.43 Is Hartenstein .618 9.8 11.9 2.1 1.04 .560 8.2 11.9 1.8 .84
-.39 Mi Robinson .556 6.7 13.4 .7 .86 .638 10.0 12.9 1.0 1.21
-.40 Quentin Grimes .546 10.0 3.1 1.5 .21 .614 13.4 4.0 2.1 .54
-.57 Josh Hart .541 8.3 8.3 2.9 .52 .620 10.4 9.0 3.5 .84
-.77 Julius Randle .556 22.7 10.0 3.9 1.56 .570 24.2 10.4 3.5 1.90
eW+ OKC Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.65 Shai G-A .630 33.9 6.0 5.2 2.93 .610 30.4 4.8 4.5 2.28
.58 Jalen Williams .616 20.5 4.1 3.5 1.21 .594 15.6 5.2 3.2 .97
-.38 Josh Giddey .519 15.3 8.3 5.0 1.01 .529 16.6 8.8 5.8 1.28
eW+ Orl Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.00 Franz Wagner .552 20.8 6.7 3.4 1.45 .581 19.1 4.8 3.1 1.07
.91 Paolo Banchero .541 21.9 7.9 4.1 1.47 .517 18.4 7.8 3.2 1.16
.56 Jalen Suggs .583 17.2 4.7 2.8 .93 .520 12.9 4.8 3.5 .67
.42 Goga Bitadze .639 13.2 11.4 2.4 1.36 .575 11.4 10.7 2.4 1.11
.41 Caleb Houstan .642 12.1 4.3 1.2 .39 .505 6.9 4.5 1.0 -.09
.36 Moritz Wagner .650 22.4 9.2 1.9 1.54 .616 18.5 8.7 2.1 1.33
-.47 Wendell Carter .525 10.4 10.0 2.2 .65 .611 17.8 11.2 2.3 1.41
eW+ Phl Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.26 Tyrese Maxey .576 24.4 3.6 5.3 1.69 .597 21.4 3.4 3.2 1.25
.65 Joel Embiid .629 39.1 12.6 5.3 3.41 .637 35.8 11.5 3.7 3.11
.37 Pat Beverley .541 9.4 5.7 3.9 .51 Chi .529 7.2 4.9 3.1 .25
eW+ Phx Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.48 Grayson Allen .666 15.5 4.8 2.5 .79 Mil .605 13.5 4.2 2.5 .61
.37 Eric Gordon .595 14.8 2.5 2.3 .54 LAC .581 14.1 2.5 2.7 .40
-.35 Josh Okogie .518 8.8 5.7 2.0 .45 .519 12.3 6.7 2.3 .78
-.36 Bradley Beal .556 18.1 4.9 3.8 .91 Was .585 23.6 4.3 4.7 1.43
-.47 Yuta Watanabe .487 7.3 4.5 .8 -.11 Brk .630 12.1 5.2 1.5 .57
eW+ Por Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.89 Jabari Walker .565 13.4 10.6 1.2 1.02 .490 9.5 7.6 1.6 .37
.62 Anfernee Simons .575 25.0 3.8 4.6 1.49 .576 19.3 2.8 3.5 .90
-.42 Skylar Mays .454 10.1 3.8 6.0 .62 .617 16.4 3.8 7.9 1.24
-1.08 Deandre Ayton .563 13.1 12.5 1.4 1.06 Phx .609 21.2 12.1 1.7 1.80
eW+ Sac Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.71 Har Barnes .621 12.4 3.7 1.2 .38 .617 15.5 5.2 1.4 .75
eW+ SAS Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.35 Jul Champagnie .569 11.1 4.4 1.5 .40 .604 15.8 6.6 .8 .86
-.39 Zach Collins .577 15.3 7.9 3.2 .85 .590 15.6 10.0 3.3 1.13
-.47 Tre Jones .546 10.5 4.2 5.2 .51 .528 12.7 4.5 6.0 .85
eW+ Tor Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.90 Scottie Barnes .571 19.4 9.2 4.4 1.67 .518 13.9 7.3 4.2 .98
1.00 De Schröder .551 14.7 3.3 5.7 .86 LAL .535 13.2 2.9 4.3 .48
-.49 Jakob Poeltl .664 14.8 11.5 2.5 1.28 .625 15.9 12.6 2.8 1.58
-.54 Pascal Siakam .586 21.4 6.9 3.9 1.43 .555 21.5 8.0 4.7 1.68
-.76 Gary Trent .518 12.6 3.2 1.7 .46 .553 17.7 3.1 1.5 .94
eW+ Uta Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.74 Collin Sexton .585 22.4 4.2 4.6 1.29 .604 19.8 3.3 3.4 .92
.59 Si Fontecchio .597 13.4 5.4 1.6 .56 .491 12.0 3.9 1.5 .24
.46 Kelly Olynyk .665 13.9 8.8 5.9 1.19 .629 15.1 7.8 3.7 .94
-.56 Walker Kessler .631 12.2 11.9 .9 1.14 .688 14.4 13.0 1.2 1.56
-.72 Kris Dunn .500 8.5 6.1 6.3 .65 .598 16.8 6.2 6.2 1.41
eW+ Was Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.37 Deni Avdija .572 12.9 7.3 3.5 .84 .527 10.8 8.8 3.0 .70
-.45 Mike Muscala .479 6.9 7.2 1.7 .12 Bos .603 13.5 7.3 1.5 .85
-1.17 Jordan Poole .514 15.2 2.7 3.0 .43 GSW .564 22.0 3.3 4.3 1.05
A change of .44 would be 1.0 eWins more or less by season's end.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:45 pm
by Mike G
Mid season, and it's gotten real close.
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
2.00 Scottie Barnes Tor .572 19.3 8.8 4.3 1.60 .518 13.9 7.3 4.2 .98
1.95 Shai G-A OKC .636 34.5 5.8 5.2 2.92 .610 30.4 4.8 4.5 2.28
1.65 Alperen Şengün Hou .579 24.0 10.0 4.5 2.01 .588 16.5 11.7 3.8 1.43
1.51 Tyrese Maxey Phl .574 24.5 3.5 5.3 1.72 .597 21.4 3.4 3.2 1.25
1.37 Collin Sexton Uta .607 24.7 4.0 4.7 1.53 .604 19.8 3.3 3.4 .92
1.32 Anthony Edwards Min .574 28.4 5.8 4.4 1.89 .555 22.3 5.9 3.6 1.44
1.32 Duncan Robinson Mia .614 17.3 3.4 3.2 .83 .530 12.1 3.8 2.0 .31
1.25 Jalen Williams OKC .634 22.1 4.5 4.0 1.42 .594 15.6 5.2 3.2 .97
1.11 Franz Wagner Orl .552 21.2 6.8 3.4 1.50 .581 19.1 4.8 3.1 1.07
1.07 Coby White Chi .576 18.3 4.6 4.0 .99 .568 13.8 4.4 3.4 .69
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.07 Reggie Jackson Den .555 17.0 3.2 4.9 .89 .511 13.0 3.2 4.2 .40
1.06 Dennis Schröder Tor .563 14.8 3.1 5.5 .83 LAL .535 13.2 2.9 4.3 .48
1.01 Paolo Banchero Orl .525 21.6 7.8 4.1 1.46 .517 18.4 7.8 3.2 1.16
.97 Alex Caruso Chi .630 14.1 4.9 2.9 .89 .580 8.1 4.6 3.5 .42
.96 Mike Conley Min .626 15.1 3.5 6.7 1.15 .579 13.0 3.2 6.4 .79
.93 Karl-A Towns Min .621 26.2 10.1 2.8 1.90 .607 21.8 9.0 4.2 1.59
.92 CJ McCollum NOP .602 22.1 5.0 4.6 1.64 .536 19.3 4.7 4.9 1.19
.92 Jabari Walker Por .572 12.8 10.5 1.2 .95 .490 9.5 7.6 1.6 .37
.91 Tyr Haliburton Ind .626 23.9 4.7 9.5 2.07 .616 20.6 3.9 8.9 1.71
.89 Jabari Smith Hou .580 14.6 9.9 1.4 1.01 .508 11.9 8.7 1.2 .70
Barnes' has the same eW+ total that he had on Dec. 20 -- In other words, since that time he has played at last season's rates, neither gaining nor losing any.
Shai, meanwhile, has continued at superstar level.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:09 pm
by Mike G
Where did Collin Sexton come from suddenly?
He's only averaged 24 mpg this year. Started slowly -- 4 Oct. games had him with a BPM of -7.3; thru Nov. it was -1.5; by end of Dec. +0.7; and now its 2.3
Run that backwards: Since Oct. his BPM is 3.1; since Nov. 4.5; and for Jan'24 it's 7.3. Actually 7.5 in 13 games since xmas.
His season 2.3 is top 50 in the league; and lately he's top 10.
Jazz have won 12 of their last 15; losing to NOP, Bos, and OKC.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:52 pm
by Crow
What pages (or sites) are you using for Sexton BPM splits and is it BPM or Game BPM?
Hearing little to no trade buzz on Sexton. Not that public buzz is accurate measure of activity or team intention.
Re: improved players from 2023 to 2024
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:51 pm
by Mike G
I copied his 'advanced' game lines and did the math.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... nced/2024/
The sum of gameBPM*minutes is same as listed season BPM. Probably it's close over a number of games.
In last night's one-pt loss, he had his worst BPM and TS% in 3 weeks; but he was +12 on court. Clarkson -7