The rebuilds
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:42 pm
Championship criteria (from other thread):
C1: 2 +5s (or near)?
C2: 3 or more +3s (or near)?
C3: 4-5 over +2?
C4: 6-8 over +1?
Ideally a team would want to try to achieve all 4 criteria, but even near 3 is rare and 2 is good.
How are the rebuilding teams beginning to looklaundry room. on long-term talent prospects?
Raptors surely think Scottie Barnes is the or one of their future +5s. He is close by BPM (because of large role?) but just +1 on Darko. Is Quickley the second? I doubt it, but could be a +3. I am not seeing anybody else as likely +2s in a couple years. A couple or more +1s is a reasonable expectation but they are not flush with upside imo.
Hornets have LaMelo Ball, for now, sometimes. +3.3 on BPM but only +1.4 on Darko. I see him as more likely a future +3 than a +5. Will his 3rd contract be with Hornets? I dunno about will or should. I am not that optimistic about B Miller but haven't studied closely. I could see M Williams becoming a +2, maybe +3. Potential for some +1s but not there yet.
Many Wizards fans are quite optimistic. I am not from what I see so far. I consider Sarr as more role player than star. Let me know when he gets above 0 or eventually over +2. Coulibaly was a disappointment last season in my opinion and shows no obvious readiness for a greatly expanded role. I'd want Poole and Kuzma gone ASAP. Carrington might work out... if he develops greater rim pressure and efficiency and mostly changes his shot distribution.
Pistons should move up but not immediately projecting how far, how fast and to what ultimate end other than being fairly skeptical. Cunningham is nowhere close to a +3 yet. No one else is a future +2 candidate yet. Harris could be next season with potentially bigger usage (depending coaching and front office intentions and control) but unlikely in 3 years. A couple of possible +1s. Either they need consolidation trades to try for some +2s or higher or go big for lots of +1s and see what can be achieved that way.
I'll do the western rebuilds at another time.
My focus is on long-run talent projection rather than stepping stone win targets. The latter will follow the former eventually.
C1: 2 +5s (or near)?
C2: 3 or more +3s (or near)?
C3: 4-5 over +2?
C4: 6-8 over +1?
Ideally a team would want to try to achieve all 4 criteria, but even near 3 is rare and 2 is good.
How are the rebuilding teams beginning to looklaundry room. on long-term talent prospects?
Raptors surely think Scottie Barnes is the or one of their future +5s. He is close by BPM (because of large role?) but just +1 on Darko. Is Quickley the second? I doubt it, but could be a +3. I am not seeing anybody else as likely +2s in a couple years. A couple or more +1s is a reasonable expectation but they are not flush with upside imo.
Hornets have LaMelo Ball, for now, sometimes. +3.3 on BPM but only +1.4 on Darko. I see him as more likely a future +3 than a +5. Will his 3rd contract be with Hornets? I dunno about will or should. I am not that optimistic about B Miller but haven't studied closely. I could see M Williams becoming a +2, maybe +3. Potential for some +1s but not there yet.
Many Wizards fans are quite optimistic. I am not from what I see so far. I consider Sarr as more role player than star. Let me know when he gets above 0 or eventually over +2. Coulibaly was a disappointment last season in my opinion and shows no obvious readiness for a greatly expanded role. I'd want Poole and Kuzma gone ASAP. Carrington might work out... if he develops greater rim pressure and efficiency and mostly changes his shot distribution.
Pistons should move up but not immediately projecting how far, how fast and to what ultimate end other than being fairly skeptical. Cunningham is nowhere close to a +3 yet. No one else is a future +2 candidate yet. Harris could be next season with potentially bigger usage (depending coaching and front office intentions and control) but unlikely in 3 years. A couple of possible +1s. Either they need consolidation trades to try for some +2s or higher or go big for lots of +1s and see what can be achieved that way.
I'll do the western rebuilds at another time.
My focus is on long-run talent projection rather than stepping stone win targets. The latter will follow the former eventually.