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Hi guys,
I am in need of infos about the 1972 US Basketball trials in Colorado Springs as well as infos about pre-olympics exhibition games of the US team.

Thx a lot

The Olympic Trials were held in Colorado in June 1972. This was during the NBA-ABA war for signing players, as a result college seniors, who typically would wait to after the Olympics to sign with pro teams, pretty much skipped the Trials. This rule changed in 1976, where seniors could sign a contract and play, as long as they had not played any pro games. Addtionally, citing injuries Bill Walton chose not to attend the Trials; his college teammate Keith (now Jamaal) Wilkes also did not attend.
About 60 players did attend, representing the NCAA, NAIA, NJCAA (junior college), AAU, and Armed Forces. As in prior Trials, a series of games were held to determine the team. Unlike prior years, the teams were mixed together, previously the AAU Stars would play as a team, the Juco team as one, etc. This was probably done to the decline of AAU, largely due to the large contracts making AAU ball much less attractive than prior.
Henry Iba coached the team. The players were split into 8 Teams, each given a color. Each team played every other one. The surprise of the Trials was Swen Nater, UCLA's back-up center, who led the tournament in scoring. The second leading scorer was Doug Collins, of Illinois State. At the end of the camp, 12 players were selected for the team.

Lname Fname
Ratleff Ed
Burleson Tom
Collins Doug
Joyce Kevin
Bantom Mike
Brewer Jim
Jones Dwight
Jones Bobby
Davis Kenny
Henderson Tom
Brown John
Nater Swen

All but Davis (AAU) and Henderson (NJCAA) were NCAA college players. The biggest omission was Marvin Barnes, who
led the trials in rebounding, second biggest was Tom McMillen, who was 1 of the biggest names at the Trials.

The team went to training camp in Hawaii. Nater left the team, complaining of the food and conditions. He was replaced by McMillen. Brown was injured at some point, and replaced by Jim Forbes,

They played 5 exhibition games, beating various teams of NBA and ABA players - the first against former Olympians.
I won't go into the Olympic Games here, there is a lot of information about it available throughout the Internet.

I hope this helps as a starter, let me know what specific questions you have, and I will try and answer them.

Never heard of this Fname guy.
Does that rhyme with tsunami?

Never heard of him? He seems to pop up in almost every list I do.

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:04 pm They played 5 exhibition games, beating various teams of NBA and ABA players - the first against former Olympians.

that's what I need. where did they play the 5 exhibition games (location?), which ABA/NBA players played?

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:04 pm The players were split into 8 Teams, each given a color.

I have one color photo for the 8 trials teams.
so I can create the jerseys for NBA2K13 game.
but do you know which players played together in one team?
need player names.

https://www.expressnews.com/guidetosa/a ... 835260.php

1948, 1960, 1964, 1968 Olympics and many more are already done for 2K13 game.
https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=550

https://i.ibb.co/NFxkKkR/mex.jpg

PatTheHead wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:30 pm

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:04 pm The players were split into 8 Teams, each given a color.

I have one color photo for the 8 trials teams.
so I can create the jerseys for NBA2K13 game.
but do you know which players played together in one team?
need player names.

https://www.expressnews.com/guidetosa/a ... 835260.php

Yes, I can post it in the next day or 2.

PatTheHead wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:26 pm

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:04 pm They played 5 exhibition games, beating various teams of NBA and ABA players - the first against former Olympians.

that's what I need. where did they play the 5 exhibition games (location?), which ABA/NBA players played?

I have where they played, the rosters are probably shaky as there are just box scores, and other than the first game where they played former Olympians, I probably can't tell all who played.

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:36 pm

PatTheHead wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:26 pm

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:04 pm They played 5 exhibition games, beating various teams of NBA and ABA players - the first against former Olympians.

that's what I need. where did they play the 5 exhibition games (location?), which ABA/NBA players played?

I have where they played, the rosters are probably shaky as there are just box scores, and other than the first game where they played former Olympians, I probably can't tell all who played.

any information is welcome. it does not matter if it is complete.
thx in advance

PatTheHead wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:30 pm

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:04 pm The players were split into 8 Teams, each given a color.

I have one color photo for the 8 trials teams.
so I can create the jerseys for NBA2K13 game.
but do you know which players played together in one team?
need player names.

https://www.expressnews.com/guidetosa/a ... 835260.php

Here are the 8 teams that were played at Trials. They played a 7 game round robin, everybody playing everybody else once.

Lname Fname Ht Team Type 0 Trials
Burleson Tom 7-02 North Carolina State NCAA 1 Gold
Green Mike 6-10 Louisiana Tech NAIA 1 Gold
Joyce Kevin 6-03 South Carolina NCAA 1 Gold
Kivisto Tom 6-02 Kansas NCAA 1 Gold
Lauriski Bob 6-07 Utah State NCAA 1 Gold
Richards Ronald 6-06 US Air Force AF 1 Gold
Wilson Bob 6-02 Northeastern JC (CO) JC 1 Gold
Collins Doug 6-06 Illinois State NCAA 2 Silver
Cremins Bob AAU 2 Silver
Henderson Tom 6-02 San Jacinto JC 2 Silver
Jones Dwight 6-09 Houston NCAA 2 Silver
Kirk Gene 6-05 Marathon Oil AAU 2 Silver
McMillen Tom 6-11 Maryland NCAA 2 Silver
Parsons Cliff 6-10 US Air Force AF 2 Silver
Brewer Jim 6-08 Minnesota NCAA 3 Blue
Crenshaw Donald 6-05 US Army AF 3 Blue
Harris Dick 6-05 Marion-Kay AAU 3 Blue
Karl George 6-02 North Carolina NCAA 3 Blue
Schmitt Marv 6-02 US Air Force AF 3 Blue
Washington Kermit 6-08 American NCAA 3 Blue
Wilmore Art 6-02 AAU AAU 3 Blue
Witte Luke 6-11 Ohio State NCAA 3 Blue
Jones Bobby North Carolina NCAA 4 White
Kozak Charles 6-05 US Marines (Hawaii Marines) AF 4 White
Nater Swen 6-11 UCLA NCAA 4 White
Parkhill Barry 6-04 Virginia NCAA 4 White
Popovich Gregg 6-00 US Air Force AF 4 White
Stewart MIke 6-10 Santa Clara NCAA 4 White
Young Jackie 6-03 Montana College NAIA 4 White
Barnes Marvin 6-08 Providence NCAA 5 Red
Casey Mike 6-04 Southeastern Stars AAU 5 Red
Hardin Bernard 6-06 Ellsworth IA JC JC 5 Red
Kosmalski Len 7-00 Tennessee NCAA 5 Red
Larsen Bob 6-05 Triton JC JC 5 Red
Pounds Larry 6-07 Pasadena CC AAU 5 Red
Retseck Jim 6-09 Auburn NCAA 5 Red
Shepherd Billy 5-11 Marion-Kay AAU 5 Red
Hornyak Allan 6-02 Ohio State NCAA 6 Purple
Kenon Larry 6-09 Amarillo JC JC 6 Purple
Kunnert Kevin 7-01 Iowa NCAA 6 Purple
Lister James 6-10 Sam Houston State NAIA 6 Purple
Miller Tony 6-01 Florida NCAA 6 Purple
Nietmann Bill 6-04 Principia College NAIA 6 Purple
Rogers Harry 6-07 Saint Louis NCAA 6 Purple
Squires Billie 6-04 US Marines (Hawaii Marines) AF 6 Purple
Davis Kenny 6-00 Marathon Oil AAU 7 Green
Forbes James 6-07 Texas-El Paso NCAA 7 Green
Kozelko Tom 6-08 Toledo NCAA 7 Green
Newton Bill 6-09 Louisiana State NCAA 7 Green
Ratleff Ed 6-07 Long Beach State NCAA 7 Green
Steele Henry 6-09 NE Louisiana State NAIA 7 Green
Tolmie John 6-03 US Marines (Hawaii Marines) AF 7 Green
Austin Elmer 6-04 NCA&T NAIA 8 Orange
Bantom Mike 6-09 Saint Joseph's NCAA 8 Orange
Brown John 6-07 Missouri NCAA 8 Orange
D'Antoni Mike 6-03 Marshall NCAA 8 Orange
Martin Scott 6-00 Oklahoma NCAA 8 Orange
Terry Chuck 6-06 Long Beach State NCAA 8 Orange
Traylor Danny 7-00 South Carolina NCAA 8 Orange

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:40 am Lname Fname Ht Team Type 0 Trials

great.
that was what I was in need of. can you provide the same info (players names) for 1968 trials?
for 1968 trials I still miss about 10 to 15 players names.

PatTheHead wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:50 am

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:40 am Lname Fname Ht Team Type 0 Trials

great.
that was what I was in need of. can you provide the same info (players names) for 1968 trials?
for 1968 trials I still miss about 10 to 15 players names.

This is from a roster just before the Trials; it's possible a couple of guys didn't play - there were 8 teams, 3 NCAA, and then 1 from 5 different organizations.


Tom Black AAU Akron Goodyears
Calvin Fowler AAU Akron Goodyears
Edward Johnson AAU Tennessee AAU
James King AAU Akron Goodyears
Steve Kuberski AAU Macomb AAU
Edgar Lacey AAU Kitch. Clippers
Ted McClain AAU Tennessee AAU
Mike Patterson AAU Akron Goodyears
Gary Schull AAU Phillips 66ers
Harold Sergent AAU Phillips 66ers
Jim Tillman AAU Zip Codes
Michael Barnett Armed Forces Navy
Bill Blair Armed Forces Air Force
Ken Bradley Armed Forces Air Force
George Carter Armed Forces Army
John Clawson Armed Forces Army
Jim Cole Armed Forces Navy
Darius Cunningham Armed Forces Army
Harry Gilmore Armed Forces Air Force
Mike Redd Armed Forces Marines
Mike Silliman Armed Forces Army
John Snipes Armed Forces Navy
Marvin Willett Armed Forces Marines
Wayne Canaday Junior College Vincennes (IN)
Joe Hamilton Junior College Southwest Christian
Spencer Haywood Junior College Trinidad ©)
Danny Hester Junior College Murray State (OK)
John Johnson Junior College Northwest (WY)
Sam Robinson Junior College Pasadena City
Paul Ruffner Junior College Cerritos (CA)
Ollie Taylor Junior College San Jacinto (TX)
Les Tolver Junior College San Jacinto (TX)
George Trapp Junior College Pasadena (CA)
John Vallely Junior College Orange Coast (CA)
Gary Zeller Junior College Long Beach (CA)
Donald Dee NAIA St. Mary (KS)
Dwight Durante NAIA Catawba (NC)
Joe Gallanger NAIA Pembroke State
Lloyd Higgins NAIA Pasadena
Darryl Jones NAIA St. Benedict's
Julius Keye NAIA Alcorn A&M
Pat Kornegay NAIA Monmouth (NJ)
Charlie Paulk NAIA Northeastern Okla
Glynn Saulters NAIA Northeast La
Doug Williams NAIA St. Mary;s (TX)
Jasper Wilson NAIA Southern La
Joe Allen NCAA Blue Bradley
Bob Arnzen NCAA Blue Notre Dame
Tom Boerwinkle NCAA Blue Tennessee
Mike Casey NCAA Blue Kentucky
Fred Foster NCAA Blue Miami (OH)
Joe Heiser NCAA Blue Princeton
Pete Maravich NCAA Blue LSU
Bud Ogden NCAA Blue Santa Clara
Adelman Rick NCAA Blue Loyola (CA)
Dave Scholz NCAA Blue Illinois
Rich Travis NCAA Blue Oklahoma City
Harry Barnes NCAA College Division Northwestern ?
Bob Dandridge NCAA College Division Norfolk State
Larry Jefferies NCAA College Division Trinity
Otto Moore NCAA College Division Pan American
Larry Newbold NCAA College Division Long Island
Jerry Newsom NCAA College Division Indiana State
Tom Niemeler NCAA College Division Evansville
Howard Pratt NCAA College Division Evansville
John Rinka NCAA College Division Kenyon
Dallas Thornton NCAA College Division Kentucky Wesleyan
George Tinsley NCAA College Division Kentucky Wesleyan
Dennis Black NCAA Red San Francisco
Russ Critchfield NCAA Red California
Joe Franklin NCAA Red Wisconsin
Art Harris NCAA Red Standord
Bill Hosket NCAA Red Oio State
Merv Jackson NCAA Red Utah
Jim McKean NCAA Red Washington State
Rick Mount NCAA Red Purdue
Cliff Parsons NCAA Red Air Force
Jo Jo White NCAA Red Kansas
Mike Butler NCAA White Memphis State
Shaler Halimon NCAA White Utah State
Dan Issel NCAA White Kentucky
Stu Lantz NCAA White Nebraska
Bob Leinhard NCAA White Georgia
Calvin Murphy NCAA White Niagara
Ron Nelson NCAA White New Mexico
Bob Portman NCAA White Creighton
Charlie Scott NCAA White North Carolina
Ken Spain NCAA White Houston

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:44 am This is from a roster just before the Trials; it's possible a couple of guys didn't play

that's great. thx a lot.

do you have locations and players names (ABA/NBA) for the 5 mentioned 1972 exhibition games?