Chris Paul career.

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Mike G
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Chris Paul career.

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When Chris Paul had played a few NBA games, he was compared to Oscar Robertson. The statistical similarity was first noted in this forum.
In 20 seasons, he outlasted Oscar by several years. And according to b-r.com, these 2 are still the most similar to one another in NBA history, based on their annual Win Shares.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... l#all_sims
Of these 11, only Oscar had a best (#1) season that was better than any by Paul.
These are all guards; not all are point guards. Ranked by their best season; their 2nd best; 3rd, etc.

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#1        2        3        4        5
Oscar    CP3      Oscar    Oscar    Oscar
CP3      Oscar    CP3      Magic   Stockton
Curry    West     Magic    Harden   CP3
West     Magic    West     West     Harden
Magic    Curry    Harden  Stockton  West
Harden   Harden  Stockton  CP3      Magic
Stockton Kobe     Kobe     Kobe     Kobe
Kobe    Stockton  Curry    Curry    Payton
Payton   Payton   Payton   Payton   Drexler
Drexler  Drexler  Drexler  Drexler  Reggie
Reggie   Reggie   Reggie   Reggie   Curry
            
#6         7        8        9        10
Oscar    Stockton Stockton Stockton  Oscar
Stockton  Oscar    Oscar    Oscar   Stockton
Harden    Harden   Harden   Magic    West
West      West     CP3      West     Kobe
CP3       CP3      Magic    Kobe     Magic
Magic     Magic    West     CP3      CP3
Kobe      Kobe     Reggie   Reggie   Reggie
Drexler   Reggie   Kobe     Harden   Harden
Payton    Payton   Payton   Payton   Payton
Reggie    Drexler  Curry    Curry    Curry
Curry     Curry    Drexler  Drexler  Drexler
            
11         12       13       14       15
Oscar    Stockton Stockton Stockton  CP3
Stockton  Reggie   CP3      CP3      Stockton
Kobe      Kobe     Reggie   Reggie   Harden
Magic     CP3      Oscar    Harden   Reggie
CP3       Oscar    Kobe     Kobe     Kobe
Reggie    Harden   Harden   Drexler  Payton
West      West     Drexler  Oscar    Drexler
Harden    Payton   West     Curry    Curry
Payton    Curry    Curry    Payton   
Curry     Drexler  Payton   West   
Drexler   Magic    Magic      
            
16         17       18       19       20
CP3       CP3      CP3      CP3      CP3
Stockton Stockton Stockton Stockton (Kobe)
Reggie    Reggie   Reggie  (Kobe)   
Kobe      Kobe     Kobe      
Harden    Payton         
Payton            
Curry            
The top spots are Oscar-Stock-Paul exclusively.
Topping out at #2 are Magic in his 4th best WS year and Reggie Miller in his 12th best.
Curry, West, Harden, and Kobe hit the #3 spot at various times.
Drexler and Payton get to #6 and 8 respectively.

A couple of notable omissions: M Jordan's most-similars are the same except without Drexler. And he leads at every point thru 12 seasons.
Westbrook took the triple-double distinction from Oscar but faded quickly thereafter -- Only 6 other seasons half as good as his best. None of his WS similars match these.

(Kobe) had a couple of negative-WS seasons.

Here's a similar exercise with VORP.
No Oscar, no West -- no BPM or VORP back then.

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PG/G rank  1   aka   2   aka   3  aka    4  aka 
CP3       9.9  CP3  9.3  CP3  8.1  JS   8.0  JS 
Curry     9.5  SC   8.3  MJ   8.1  MJ   8.0  MJ 
Westbrook 9.3  RW   8.1  JS   8.0  JH   7.7  JH 
Harden    9.3  JH   8.1  JH   7.2  CP3  6.7  CP3
Magic     8.9  MJ   7.9  SC   6.7  SC   5.9  SC 
Shai      8.9  SG   7.1  SG   6.1  RW   5.8  RW 
Stockton  8.3  JS   6.8  RW   5.9  GP   5.7  GP 
Luka      8.0  LD   6.6  LD   5.9  DL   5.4  LD 
Payton    7.3  GP   6.1  GP   5.9  LD   5.0  DL 
Kidd      6.5  JK   6.1  CB   5.6  SG   4.9  JK 
Isiah     6.5  IT   6.0  DL   5.0  JK   4.8  AI 
Lillard   6.3  DL   5.5  JK   5.0  AI   4.6  SG 
Porter    6.2  TP   5.4  TP   4.9  IT   4.4  SN 
Billups   6.2  CB   5.3  AI   4.5  SN   4.3  CB 
Iverson   6.1  AI   5.1  IT   4.5  CB   4.0  TP 
Nash      5.3  SN   4.9  SN   4.0  TP   4.0  IT 

5   aka    6   aka   7   aka   8   aka   9   aka
7.9  JS   7.6  JS   7.5  JS   6.4  JS   6.3  JS
7.3  JH   6.8  MJ   6.1  MJ   5.8  CP3  5.6  MJ
7.0  MJ   6.8  JH   6.0  CP3  5.7  MJ   5.2  CP3
6.4  CP3  6.1  CP3  5.8  JH   5.3  JH   4.7  SC
5.8  SC   5.6  SC   5.1  SC   4.8  SC   4.4  JH
5.2  GP   5.2  GP   4.9  GP   4.3  DL   4.1  JK
5.1  LD   4.9  DL   4.8  DL   4.2  JK   3.9  DL
4.9  DL   4.6  RW   4.4  RW   4.1  GP   3.8  AI
4.8  JK   4.5  JK   4.2  JK   3.9  AI   3.7  GP
4.7  RW   4.5  AI   4.0  AI   3.6  CB   3.0  RW

10   aka   11  aka   12  aka   13  aka   14  aka
6.2  JS   5.3  JS   5.3  JS   4.8  JS   4.0  JS
5.3  MJ   4.8  MJ   4.2  CP3  4.0  CP3  3.6  CP3
5.1  CP3  4.4  SC   4.0  SC   3.7  JH   3.3  JK
4.4  SC   4.2  CP3  3.9  JK   3.6  JK   3.1  JH
4.0  JK   4.0  JK   3.8  MJ   2.7  SC   2.0  SC
4.0  JH   3.8  JH   3.7  JH   1.8  MJ   1.5  GP
3.6  GP   3.1  GP   2.9  GP   1.6  GP   1.2  TP
3.2  DL   2.8  SN   2.7  SN   1.4  SN   1.0  RW
2.9  SN   2.7  DL   2.1  AI   1.2  RW   1.0  SN
2.7  RW   2.3  RW   1.8  RW   1.2  TP   0.4  CB

15   aka   16  aka   17  aka   18  aka   19  aka
3.6  JS   3.5  CP3  2.8  JS   2.5  CP3  1.6  CP3
3.5  CP3  3.4  JS   2.8  CP3  2.1  JS   1.2  JK
3.0  JK   2.7  JK   2.1  JK   1.9  JK   0.7  JS
2.2  JH   2.0  JH   1.1  JH   0.2 
2.0  SC   1.2  SC   0.5  RW  -0.2 
1.5  GP   0.7  TP   0.5    
0.7  RW   0.6  GP   0.2  
0.7  TP   0.6  RW  -0.1 
0.4  SN   0.0  CB  -0.3 
0.3  CB  -0.1  SN  -0.5 
Isiah just misses the top 10 all along.
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