Suns 2013-18 retrospective

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Suns 2013-18 retrospective

Post by Crow » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:07 am

McDonough inherited a team that had a 2 way bad season before he arrived. The next season, most things looked quite good with Hornacek. They dramatically increased Moreyball. Dragic and Bledsoe were both great on RPM. Then... it started going downhill. The point guard trades were a mixed bag. Dragic turned meh. Trading him for picks seemed alright at time. Trading for Knight made no sense. The PG shuffle seemed to have caused uncertainty, instability at tam level.

What other mistakes were made? Perhaps getting overly infatuated with Booker too quickly. Picking and believing in Len. Picking and believing in Watson. Going away from Moreyball. Losing Tucker. Defense.

Over 3 years basically all the gains were lost. Then last season was flat terrible.

Who drove the decision to get Knight then Watson between McDonough and Sarver? I dunno. Both responsible. May be more Sarver.

Were any lessons learned? We'll see. Jones' elevation so fast suggests probably not enough. PG is still a mess. Worst it has ever been.

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Re: Suns 2013-18 retrospective

Post by Dr Positivity » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:40 pm

Going back a little further than 2013 I think the Suns messed up too many draft picks this decade. Bender and Chriss draft is catastrophic for having 4 and 8, both decline rookie option level. Len a bust at 5. Marshall, Ennis busts at 13 and 18. Jackson and Ayton tbd. Booker puts up stats but real value tbd. Warren pick is ok. Ayton falls in line with their Len, Bender, Chriss picks of loving project big men a lot.

They didn't spend their free agency money too well. Knight for 5 years 70. Chandler 4 years 52. One guy hadn't proven he's good yet, the other old. Ariza 1 year 15 probably will be pointless. Tucker, Frye, Dragic were more valuable just about anyone on the Suns for years after they left, although resigning them would have meant just playing towards the middle of the league. Since they lost players like Frye and Tucker they haven't found many who are more valuable than their boxscore.

Terrible taste in coaches. Hornacek started out well but his career went downhill quickly and seems abrasive. Earl Watson must be one of the least qualified coaches of this era. Jay Triano's last gig with the Raptors led to back to back 30th place DRTG seasons and surprisingly his season with the Suns also led to 30th place DRTG.

Overall the Suns core of Booker, Ayton, etc. could have been worse for only being really terrible the last three years and the Chriss Bender draft being so bad. The drought looks bad because they missed five before that.

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