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Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:08 am
by Crow
It probably isn't going to be fixed this season much or much anytime soon but I'd try...
Graham Monk probably Cody Martin Williams Biyombo and play it pretty heavy.
Bring in one of Washington, Bridges and Zeller with 4 of these as much as possible.
Rozier, Batum as necessary to sop up remaining bench minutes. No Bacon.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:12 am
by Crow
New coach, new GM, new owner.
Pursue trades with almost every player (except probably Graham, Washington).
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:16 am
by Dr Positivity
Their style of play and culture seems to be headed in the right direction, just no talent. Is Devonte a 3pt shooter who doesn't defend or a 3/D guy? I can't say watching the Hornets is a priority. PJ Washington and Miles Bridges seem like decent picks
They messed up not getting anything for Kemba, so take an L this season and draft a lotto prospect and then look to find steals with the cap space. Don't trade Batum for longer deals like Wiggins, Paul or Westbrook.
For the next core stop paying 15 mil+ a year to players who are non all-stars, let alone players who are barely established starters. Batum, Rozier, Biyombo, Marvin, Zeller and MKG combine for 104.9 million this season. Remove Batum who was once a premiere 3/D/passing wing, and they're still paying 79.4 million for Rozier/Biyombo/Marvin/Zeller/MKG who's best season between them is...? (one of the Marvin years where he was a decent stretch 4 like Patterson on the Raptors was a decent stretch 4?)
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:19 am
by Crow
Would Presti take Marvin Williams / MKG / other for C Paul? I dunno. Plenty of scenarios to yak about for both teams. Paul looks like he could play at this level for years no problem imo. More mental than anything amazing physically. Could be decent for player development and marketing. They'll probably do worse if they stay the same.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:32 pm
by Crow
In last few games the strong big minute lineups had Rozier Monk Graham Batum Williams Washington and Biyombo. I'd probably stick with at least 4 of these 7 in lineups for as many minutes as possible. Which could be a very large share if you had the intention / discipline.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:20 am
by Crow
Miles Bridges with the worst raw plus minus on the court in the league. If they can trade, I would. Probably should be open to trading any one except maybe not Graham and probably not Washington. Primarily need change in forward rotation and forward defense. Unfortunately Washington's power defense is weak but not near as bad as others. Haven't followed the MKG story but his PF defense looks very good in limited minutes.
Awful offense and defense mainly because of awful shooting, lack of getting to rim and bad shot defense.
Current good lineup is Bridges Biyombo Graham Washington Rozier. Pretty small minutes. With Monk instead of Graham (and possibly Williams over Biyombo as well) seems worth like obvious things to try but hasn't been a single second. Too busy dinking around with 221 other selections. Rozier Graham Monk together may seem like a radical burn but they have done it in small doses and they shouldn't be afraid or conservative.
17 of 20 most used player pairs negative. Graham and Monk have 2 positives, including with each other. Washington and Williams with the others.
Suck against any kind of strength and against fast pace. Have to find & use the very best lineups a lot. Maybe matching up to address some specific challenges but not wandering thru hundreds of changes.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:42 am
by Crow
Hornets winning 1/3rd less than last season with a 3 times as bad pt differential. Bad on offense, worse on defense. Slowest pace in league. Does Borrego survive? I dunno. Offensive rebounding, forced turnovers and not fouling saves them from being even worse.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:25 am
by Crow
For Jordan:
Capital appreciation. Basketball depreciation. Golf. Home-building. No signs of change.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:15 pm
by Crow
No positive lineups over 1 minute per game. 284 lineups used and can't even hit a single.
Next.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:08 pm
by Dr Positivity
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Player Vol. Eff. Def. Spac. VEDS VEDS/min.
D. Graham 7.93 1.55 0.78 5.5 15.76 0.45
T. Rozier 7.48 -0.22 2.33 5.13 14.72 0.43
P. Washington 4.88 -0.88 5.06 5.38 14.45 0.48
M. Bridges 5.45 -0.98 3.5 4.96 12.93 0.42
C. Zeller 4.43 2.53 3.02 2.08 12.05 0.52
M. Williams 2.49 1.61 2.74 5.05 11.89 0.6
N. Batum 1.97 0.09 4.44 4.88 11.37 0.49
McDaniels 1.39 5.36 0.72 2.55 10.02 0.77
B. Biyombo 2.97 2.36 2.91 1.04 9.28 0.48
M. Monk 4.3 -1.42 1.16 3.54 7.58 0.36
Co. Martin 2.01 0.09 2.42 2.43 6.95 0.43
Hernangomez 2.37 -0.07 0.9 1.11 4.32 0.41
M. Gilchrist 2.14 -2.47 0.74 2.33 2.74 0.21
D. Bacon 3.13 -4.78 1.34 2.17 1.86 0.11
C. Martin 1.6 -2.93 1.41 1.6 1.69 0.14
Nobody is that great, however I would note there is a huge difference between Devonte' Graham's DRPM and DBPM (Which I use to have 100% basketball reference created stat), He ranks 1st on the team in DRPM and last in DBPM. His on/off defensively (-0.3) is in the middle of his team. So if DRPM was accurate he would rate as their best player by a bigger margin.
Washington shoots 3s and has one of their best defensive numbers in all of DRPM, DBPM and on/off. So if he can put together the rest of his stuff more he could have potential.
They have some shooters who don't always need the ball (one less now without Marvin) but their lack of efficient players overall suggests they are pretty hapless inside the arc. Graham and Rozier good example as shooting 3s at a high volume but still having mediocre TS.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:17 pm
by Crow
DBPM is deeply flawed (beyond the counting stats for shot / scoring defense).
LA-DRAPM has Graham better than DRAPM but not as high as DRPM.
Factor level shows weak on shot defense and defensive rebounding. Consistent with height. Good on opponent turnovers and ft/fga.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:25 am
by Crow
Kupchak tries to brush off this season's failure. Says it will take more years. Yes it will.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:11 am
by Crow
Core is Graham - Washington.
The main 7 to play right now are Rozier Graham Cody Martin Bridges Washington, Zeller and Biyombo. Some lineup combinations better than others but there some ok ones.
I'd try to upgrade from Bridges / Martin. I'd trade Bridges. Vassell would be pretty appealing in draft. Possibly with a slight trade down.
Should trade Zeller, Biyombo or both, if possible. Get better on at least one of offense, shot defense and rebounding.
A vet PG or combo guard would be nice.
Move on from at least half the bench.
Shooting and shot defense are about equal needs. See what you can get. Adds need to make case on at least one.
Shot distribution is near average. Could use a more active driver.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:42 pm
by Crow
One lineup used over 1 minute per game moved to barely positive. Only used about 4 min. / gm for season. +6pts / 100p in last games but still only used 4 min. / gm. because only used in about half the games. Perhaps injuries interfered? I would have used more and would also increase that usage by a lot in any remaining games. Too much messing around with dink lineups and brief experiments too brief to mean anything. Just 3 lineups used 1 min. / gm.
Re: Fixing the Hornets
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:16 am
by Crow
Which of these doesn't make sense- signing Rozier, playing the slowest pace in league or both?
Should they run more? With Rozier, Graham or both? Looks like all options are bad with Borrego but Graham only being the best of the 3.