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Posted: **Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:38 am**

https://matthewmurphy1.wordpress.com/20 ... 90s-bulls/

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:12 am**

I read the article. Clearly you've researched and thought about it a lot. I don't really have anything to dispute or add. I am not that into reviewing deep history. But if someone is on a 90s Bull nostalgia or discovery kick, this might give you info not being offered in many of the other articles / stories.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:44 am**

You lost me when you said Kukoc led Croatia in 1992. The name was Drazen Petrovic, by far he best non US player there, and the only player who held his own against the Dream Team

Posted: **Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:35 pm**

The 1993-94 Pippen had a WS/48 efficiency of .194 (.107 being average)

WS/48 is such that .100 is supposed to be avg. After all, in a regulation game, there are 480 player-minutes competing for 1.0 win.
(With overtimes, it's an avg of about 484 player-min per win, so avg comes out around .992 ws/48)

The Bulls lost power forward Horace Grant to free agency in the 1993 offseason ...

Yet Horace played 36 mpg for the 1993-94 Bulls.

Win Shares is not the only available "advanced" metric. VORP is converted to "wins over replacement" by a 2.7 multiplier.
Pippen and Grant during their time together:

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.      Pippen         Grant
yr   Vx2.7   WS     Vx2.7   WS
88    1.6    2.3     0.5    4.2
89    4.1    4.0     2.7    6.4
90    8.1    5.7     5.7    8.0
91   15.9   11.2     8.1   10.3
92   17.3   12.7    14.0   14.1
93   12.7    8.6     7.0    9.1
94   18.4   11.2    10.5   10.0

all  78.0   55.7    48.6   62.1

While Horace looks better in WS than Scottie (in all but 2 years), Scottie swamps Horace in VORP.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/al ... _1994.html

Posted: **Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:19 am**

DQuinn1575 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:44 am You lost me when you said Kukoc led Croatia in 1992. The name was Drazen Petrovic, by far he best non US player there, and the only player who held his own against the Dream Team

I’m aware. Petrovic had no relevance to my write-up. Petrovic, Radja, and Kukoc were the big three on that ‘92 Croatian team. Radja led the team in rebounding, Petrovic in scoring, and Kukoc in assists despite playing less minutes than the other two.

It’s likely Jordan and Pippen weren’t as motivated to lockdown Petrovic.

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