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Lakers diaspora
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:58 pm
by Mike G
These former Lakers from 2017-2018 all left with the coming of LeBron and Anthony Davis, and all now are serious players elsewhere. They might even be a really good team right now, in some what-if.
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. xLakers2021 Min PER ws48 bpm
Julius Randle PF 697 20.3 .149 3.7
Larry Nance Fc 551 14.7 .124 2.0
Brandon Ingram SF 525 20.4 .130 3.7
Brook Lopez C 438 14.1 .131 0.1
D'Angelo Russell G 430 17.0 .035 0.0
Josh Hart Fg 423 11.1 .101 -0.9
Jordan Clarkson SG 421 21.6 .181 4.4
Lonzo Ball PG 381 10.6 .021 -2.0
Ivica Zubac C 333 21.0 .242 1.1
. totals 4200 17.0 .124 1.6
Even the 5 positions are covered, at ~840 minutes per.
NBA teams right now average 4208 minutes! This "team" averages BPM of 1.6, suggesting (1.6*5)+8.0 Pts/G on their opponents. That would put them behind only the actual Lakers and the Bucks.
Re: Lakers diaspora
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:39 am
by Crow
Ratings are influenced by context / opportunity. What would the minutes weighted average total offensive usage be for this group?
Some of the newer metrics (LA-RAPM, DARKO, EPM) offer interesting / different ratings from some of them changing the relative ranks. Haven't seen a full set of all metrics yet. Craftednba.com might have complete or mostly complete next week.
Lakers theoretically could have played this differently, if LeBron had let them. Appears he was set on the superstar duo approach. Lopez was a hard to justify loss. Not as good now but was for 2 years.
Re: Lakers diaspora
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:04 pm
by bchaikin
using stats thru last sunday's games i ran an 8200 game simulation (5 times, averaged the results) for this squad with these min/g:
min/g player
... 36.... b.lopez C
... 36.... j.randle PF
... 36.... br.ingram SF
... 28.... j,clarkson SG
... 36.... d.russell PG
... 12.... i.zubac C
... 16.... l.nance jr. PF/SF
... 24.... j.hart SG/SF
... 16.... l ball PG/SG
playing 273 or 274 games against every nba team, and they finished with an average W-L of 45-37...
avg pts/100poss scored 110.6
avg pts/100poss allowed 108.3
here's some of their stats:
b.lopez 11 pts/g, 6.1 reb/g
j.randle 17.6 pts/g, 9.4 reb/g 4.7 ast/g
b.ingram 20.1 pts/g 5 reb/g 3.9a st/g
j.clarkson 15.2 pts/g 5 reb/g
d.russell 19.7 pts/g 3 reb/g 5.1 ast/g
Re: Lakers diaspora
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:01 pm
by Mike G
Thanks, Bob.
Can you run it with these mpg?
36 - Julius Randle
34 - Brandon Ingram
32 - Larry Nance
24 - Brook Lopez
24 - D'Angelo Russell
24 - Josh Hart
24 - Jordan Clarkson
21 - Lonzo Ball
21 - Ivica Zubac
Re: Lakers diaspora
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:47 am
by bchaikin
here you go:
min/g player
... 24.... b.lopez C
... 36.... j.randle C 4 PF 32
... 36.... br.ingram SF 32 SG 4
... 24.... j.hart SG
... 24.... d.russell PG
... 20.... i.zubac C
... 32.... l.nance jr. PF 16 SF 16
... 24.... j.clarkson SG 20 PG 4
... 20.... l ball PG/SG
playing 273 or 274 games against every nba team, they finish with an average W-L of 47-35...
avg pts/100poss scored 111.5
avg pts/100poss allowed 108.1
here's some of their stats:
b.lopez 7.6 pts/g, 4 reb/g
j.randle 19.0 pts/g, 8.8 reb/g 5.0 ast/g
b.ingram 22.1 pts/g 4.8 reb/g 4.2 ast/g
j.hart 5.4 pts/g 5.2 reb/g
d.russell 14.0 pts/g 1.8 reb/g 3.7 ast/g
i.zubac 7.2 pts/g, 5.5 reb/g
l.nance 7.9 pts/g, 5.3 reb/g
j.clarkson 15.1 pts/g, 3.9 reb/g
l.ball 7.3 pts/g, 2.3 reb/g, 2.8 ast/g
if you replace randle/ingram with say anthony davis and lebron james and re-run the simulation, the W-L increases to 60-22...
if you replace randle/ingram with say blake griffin and josh jackson, the W-L decreases to 36-46...