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Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:31 pm**

Denver shoots a lot better and isn't worse anywhere, with Nikola Jokic on the floor. Compare their first 13 games to their last 3, with Joker in sick bay:

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Nuggets    G    ORtg   DRtg   FTr   TS%   Reb%
w Jokic   13   117.1  114.8  .241  .605   51.7
w/o Jokic  3   106.3  116.9  .228  .545   50.4

A dropoff of 11 pts/100 poss. mostly due to shooting, perhaps slightly due to rebounds and free throws.

Of course, 3 games is a small sample. The last few years it keeps getting more pronounced. From the On/Off pages:

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Nuggets  - - with Jokic -      - without Jokic -
year     eFG%   TO%   ORtg     eFG%    TO%   ORtg
2022-23  .605  .132   124.1    .521   .184   105.2
2021-22  .578  .149   118.8    .518   .146   108.8
2020-21  .573  .130   121.4    .517   .158   108.1
2019-20  .542  .141   115.0    .522   .140   111.1
... etc.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/te ... 19/on-off/
It could be that 'garbage time' influences these numbers. If it's not essentially the same teammates taking shots, it's not apples to apples.
Jokic was getting minutes in 2016 but only started passing a lot in 2017. Here are his primary shooting mates' rates in those 6+ years, with the final column being their eFG% in their careers without Jokic:

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w Jokic     years    G     Min   eFG   eFG%   e%wo
Gallinari   17 17    63   2134   398   .531   .514
W Chandler  17 18   145   4543   813   .518   .498
D Arthur    17 18    60    780   147   .563   .461
Ma Beasley  17 20   206   3373   701   .544   .546
Juancho H   17 20   191   2899   376   .521   .537
Trey Lyles  18 19   137   2511   571   .547   .488
Gary Harris 17 21   237   7505  1455   .539   .512
To Craig    18 20   172   3204   407   .531   .552
P Millsap   18 21   215   5440  1025   .529   .504
W Barton    17 22   369  11506  2263   .515   .448
Mon Morris  18 22   280   7066  1336   .549   .484
JaM Green   21 22   125   2205   387   .553   .528
Aa Gordon   22 23   113   3401   666   .572   .499
.   totals         2313  56567 10552   .534   .503

Not included are Murray, Porter, any others who have no career outside of Denver.

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2022 9:29 pm**

Offensive Rating includes turnovers. Playing with the Joker, you don't have to do much of the creating.

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w Jokic 2017-22   years     G   Min   ORtg  ORwo
Danilo Gallinari 17  17    63   2134   126   118
Wilson Chandler  17  18   145   4543   107   105
Darrell Arthur   17  18    60    780   110   100
Malik Beasley    17  20   206   3373   110   110
Juancho H        17  20   181   2899   113   113
Trey Lyles       18  19   137   2511   108   108
Gary Harris      17  21   237   7505   110   108
Torrey Craig     18  20   172   3204   114   116
Will Barton      17  22   369  11506   109    95
Paul Millsap     18  21   215   5440   115   110
Monte Morris     18  22   280   7066   121   121
JaMychal Green   21  22   125   2205   115   110
Aaron Gordon     22  23   113   3401   118   107
. totals                 2303  56567  113.  109.

Gordon is now enjoying career high TS%, 2fg%, 3fg%, FTr, ORb%, Stl%, Blk%, WS/48, PER, and BPM.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... oaa01.html

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