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2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 10:56 am
by Mike G
Previews for future reference. B-R.com "advanced" rates thru 2 rounds:

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. Bos     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM      . Ind    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM
Tatum     39   22.2   .224    5.1      Siakam   35   21.2   .154    2.2
Holiday   37   12.8   .147    1.6    Haliburton 35   22.0   .170    5.7
Brown     35   20.0   .149    1.7      Nesmith  33   10.4   .067   -2.8
White     34   20.0   .238    6.1      Turner   32   19.9   .147    3.4
Horford   29   14.8   .172    2.4      Nembhard 32   14.8   .123   -0.7
Pritchard 23   12.5   .147   -0.1     McConnell 19   20.0   .110    1.5
Hauser    15   13.3   .172    2.0      Sheppard 19   10.8   .078   -0.6
Porziņģis 11   18.6   .213    4.2      Toppin   19   20.6   .158    3.2
Kornet    10   18.9   .252    2.1      Jackson   9   20.4   .194    0.2
Tillman    3   16.6   .262    6.8     McDermott  3    1.1  -.065   -7.7
Mykhailiuk 2   -6.5  -.213  -13.4      J Smith   3   12.0   .081   -5.1
Brissett   2   14.0   .034   -3.7      Walker    2   -2.3  -.295  -11.6
Springer   1    9.1   .035    0.4      K Brown   2   -3.1  -.224  -14.5
Queta      1   13.6   .146   -4.3      Johnson   0  -30.7 -1.305  -51.6
Walsh      1   15.9   .201    2.1                  

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. Dal     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM      . Min    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM
Dončić    42   20.3   .140    5.9      Edwards  40   24.3   .219    8.4
Irving    40   17.2   .142    3.8     McDaniels 34   14.2   .154    2.1
Washington 35  13.3   .107    1.9      Towns    32   20.6   .207    4.6
Jones     31   12.5   .105    0.8      Gobert   31   17.0   .185    1.8
Lively    22   17.8   .162    1.5      Conley   29   14.1   .141    2.2
Gafford   21   18.0   .149    1.1      A-Walker 27    9.7   .081   -0.5
Green     17   13.8   .158    3.1      Reid     21   14.7   .120    0.7
Kleber    10   12.6   .146    3.8      Anderson 11   13.7   .131    1.6
Hardaway  10   10.6   .068   -1.3      Morris    6    6.8  -.003   -5.7
Exum       7    2.4  -.074   -8.7     McLaughlin 2   -2.2  -.168  -13.2
Hardy      4    7.5  -.059   -7.1      Garza     2   42.8   .517   21.7
Lawson     1   19.0   .186    6.7      Minott    1   12.0   .116    1.2
Powell     1   10.2   .171   -2.5      Moore     1    1.1  -.083   -6.5
Prosper    0     .0   .005   -8.5      Warren    1    4.2  -.012   -4.6
.                                      Miller    0   -3.7  -.167  -15.0
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... anced.html
Well the double-digit BPM's are all gone (Jokic, LeBron, Shai), as are the .230+ WS/48 (Jokic, Davis, Shai) and the 25+ PER (Jokic, Davis, Embiid, LeBron, Shai, Lillard). Ant. Edwards is next up in all 3
Superstar-free playoffs from here on? At least some deep teams.

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 12:10 pm
by Mike G
Celtics 1 - 0 Pacers
133 - 128 in OT
Pythagorean wins .62 - .38 , eWins .56 - .44

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e530
.17   Jayson Tatum   Bos   45  .563   27.1  10.8   2.9   2.4   3.5   .0   1.96
.15   Jrue Holiday   Bos   49  .778   24.0   5.8   5.4   2.2   3.2   .0   1.62
.11  Ty. Haliburton  Ind   41  .641   21.8   3.0   6.6   2.6   3.7   .9   1.48
.11   Myles Turner   Ind   39  .821   24.8  10.5   2.8    .0   5.1  1.9   1.53
.11   Jaylen Brown   Bos   44  .542   19.1   6.4   3.7   2.5   2.7   .8   1.34

.11   Pascal Siakam  Ind   42  .522   16.7  11.7   4.5    .9   2.4   .0   1.37
.08   Derrick White  Bos   42  .536   11.2   5.8   7.1   1.7   1.9   .9   1.04
.06   Obi Toppin     Ind   22  .833   28.6   7.0   2.3   1.5   6.4   .0   1.35
.04  T.J. McConnell  Ind   25  .542   15.2   4.7   4.1   1.4   1.9   .0    .83
.03   Al Horford     Bos   40  .455    8.2   6.1    .8    .0    .0  2.7    .45

eWin   per36 rates   tm   min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e530
.03  Andrew Nembhard Ind   35  .600   11.1   3.5   5.4    .0   1.4   .0    .48
.02   Luke Kornet    Bos   13  .714   12.2  11.4   2.3    .0    .0   .0    .99
.01 Payton Pritchard Bos   23  1.00   13.2    .0   2.7    .0    .0   .0    .26
-.01  Aaron Nesmith  Ind   40  .560   10.9   6.1    .7   1.8   6.3   .0   -.10
-.02  Sam Hauser     Bos    9  .000     .0   4.1    .0    .0   3.9   .0  -1.04
-.02  Ben Sheppard   Ind   17  .250    1.9   6.7   3.0    .0   5.5   .0   -.60
shooting : Ind .615 - .583 Bos
rebounds: Ind 44 - 43 Bos
turnovers: Bos 15 - 22 Ind

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. Bos     min   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480      . Ind    min   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Holiday   49   25.6   .284    9.3   1.62      Siakam   42   17.7   .083    1.0   1.37
Tatum     45   22.2   .137    2.2   1.96    Haliburton 41   22.0   .170   10.5   1.48
Brown     44   18.2   .104    2.6   1.34      Nesmith  40    5.8  -.084   -7.5   -.10
White     42   15.5   .148    3.4   1.04      Turner   39   19.9   .135    6.9   1.53
Horford   40    9.9   .058   -1.7    .45      Nembhard 35   12.2   .084    0.6    .48
Pritchard 23   13.6   .180    3.2    .26     McConnell 25   16.7   .099    0.4    .83
Kornet    13   19.8   .217    3.8    .99      Toppin   22   20.6   .109    5.6   1.35
Hauser     9  -19.4  -.414  -22.1  -1.04      Sheppard 17   -4.8  -.187  -14.6   -.60
.                                             Jackson   4    5.9  -.009    0.2   -.07
. totals 265   17.0   .137    2.5   1.13     . totals 265   14.7   .066    1.4    .87

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:59 am
by Mike G
Mavs 1 - 0 Wolves
108 - 105
Pyth wins .59 - .41 , eWins .54-.46

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.22   Luka Dončić    Dal   40  .559   31.5   5.5   6.4   2.8   3.6   .9   2.59
.14   Kyrie Irving   Dal   41  .577   26.6   4.4   3.1    .0   1.8   .9   1.63
.13  Anthony Edwards Min   41  .559   16.7   9.7   6.6   1.7   3.8   .0   1.52
.11  Dereck Lively   Dal   27  1.00   17.0  14.2   3.4    .0   1.3  2.6   1.96
.10  Jaden McDaniels Min   39  .800   27.3   3.7   2.6    .9   4.0   .0   1.29

.08   Naz Reid       Min   24  .682   25.0   7.2   2.7   1.4   4.1  1.4   1.63
.06  Daniel Gafford  Dal   21  .556   16.6  15.7    .0    .0   3.5  1.7   1.28
.05   Rudy Gobert    Min   37  .545    9.9   6.9    .9   1.0    .0  2.0    .70
.05   Kyle Anderson  Min   17  .688   22.6   4.0   3.8    .0    .0   .0   1.42
.04   Karl-A Towns   Min   34  .381   11.6   7.5   2.0   1.0   1.5   .0    .61

eWin   per36 rates   tm   min   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.03   Jaden Hardy    Dal    9  .500    7.8   3.7  13.1   3.9    .0   .0   1.68
.01   Tim Hardaway   Dal   10   ---     .0  13.4    .0   3.5    .0   .0    .45
.01  P.J. Washington Dal   41  .565   10.2   6.2    .0    .0   2.7  1.8    .11
.00   Mike Conley    Min   30  .333    4.8   3.7   3.4   2.4   1.7   .0    .03
-.01  Derrick Jones  Dal   35  .444    5.6   4.2   1.8    .0    .0   .0   -.08

-.01  Nickeil A-W    Min   16  .167    1.6   2.1   4.0    .0    .0   .0   -.36
-.01  Josh Green     Dal   14  .375    4.8   2.4    .0    .0   2.4  2.4   -.51
shooting : Dal .565 - .536 Min
rebounds: Dal 48 - 40 Min
turnovers: Min 10 - 13 Dal

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. Dal    min   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480      . Min    min   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Irving   41   19.8   .167    2.5   1.63      Edwards  41   18.4   .125    7.2   1.52
Wash'ton 41    6.5   .016   -4.9    .11     McDaniels 39   19.4   .164    7.3   1.29
Dončić   40   25.9   .167   11.4   2.59      Gobert   37   13.9   .134    0.8    .70
Jones    35    7.9   .059   -3.8   -.08      Towns    34    8.0  -.057   -5.7    .61
Lively   27   26.4   .311   11.1   1.96      Conley   30    3.5  -.048   -6.1    .03
Gafford  21   18.0   .059   -5.3   1.28      Reid     24   22.1   .162    8.1   1.63
Green    14   - .4  -.126   -8.0   -.51      Anderson 17   23.3   .291    6.4   1.42
Hardaway 10   10.6   .156    2.5    .45      Ni. A-W  16   -4.1  -.215  -14.3   -.36
Hardy     9   24.6   .330   16.5   1.68                     
.totals 238   15.8   .120    1.9   1.08     . totals 238   13.7   .078    1.3    .92

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 12:10 pm
by Mike G
Celtics 2 - 0 Pacers
avg score 129.5 - 119.0
Pyth wins 1.51 - .49 , eWins 1.25 - .75

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e505
.30   Jaylen Brown   Bos   41  .584   27.9   6.0   2.9   1.8   2.5   .5   1.86
.28   Jrue Holiday   Bos   43  .860   22.6   4.8   7.0   1.3   2.4   .0   1.69
.24   Jayson Tatum   Bos   44  .546   22.3   8.3   3.4   1.2   3.7   .0   1.40
.24   Pascal Siakam  Ind   37  .650   23.6   9.8   3.3    .5   2.5   .0   1.67
.23   Derrick White  Bos   40  .623   16.7   5.2   6.3   1.4   1.0   .9   1.46

.20  Ty. Haliburton  Ind   35  .636   17.2   4.3   7.1   2.2   2.0   .5   1.46
.10   Myles Turner   Ind   32  .738   18.5   9.3   1.7    .6   5.9  1.2    .84
.10  Andrew Nembhard Ind   31  .583   14.4   3.4   5.3    .6   1.5   .0    .80
.08   Al Horford     Bos   33  .467    7.3  10.0    .5   1.1    .6  1.7    .64
.08   Obi Toppin     Ind   22  .765   20.9   6.2   1.1    .8   3.9   .8    .94

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e505
.07  T.J. McConnell  Ind   21  .500   13.9   7.3   4.1    .8   3.0   .0    .79
.06 Payton Pritchard Bos   21  .909   18.3   1.8   2.9    .0    .9   .0    .73
.03  Oshae Brissett  Bos    6  1.00    6.4   8.8    .0   7.7    .0   .0   1.07
.02   Luke Kornet    Bos    9  .714    8.8  11.5   1.6    .0   1.9   .0    .50
.00   Sam Hauser     Bos   16  .143     .6   6.8   2.8   2.0   1.1  1.0    .06

.00  Isaiah Jackson  Ind   11  .375    2.2   8.6    .0    .0    .0  1.5    .01
-.01 Doug McDermott  Ind    6  .500    3.3    .0   2.0    .0    .0  2.6   -.23
-.01  Aaron Nesmith  Ind   33  .561   10.6   5.8    .8   1.2   5.0   .0   -.11
-.03  Ben Sheppard   Ind   20  .429    4.9   4.8   1.8    .0   3.2   .0   -.44
shooting : Bos .611 - .607 Ind
rebounds: Bos 41.5 - 40.5 Ind
turnovers: Bos 13.5 - 19.0 Ind

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. Bos     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e505      . Ind    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e505
Tatum     44   16.2   .077   -2.5   1.40      Siakam   37   23.4   .132    5.1   1.67
Holiday   43   25.1   .313   10.7   1.69    Haliburton 35   22.0   .170    9.5   1.46
Brown     41   23.7   .170    2.2   1.86      Nesmith  33    5.1  -.099   -8.1   -.11
White     40   20.5   .243    6.6   1.46      Turner   32   13.0  -.007    0.3    .84
Horford   33   12.1   .075   -1.4    .64      Nembhard 31   15.6   .084    1.6    .80
Pritchard 21   18.3   .224    4.4    .73      Toppin   22   18.6   .070    3.9    .94
Hauser    16    1.1  -.062   -5.8    .06     McConnell 21   13.7  -.002   -3.4    .79
Kornet     9   13.7   .095   -1.2    .50      Sheppard 20    2.9  -.102   -8.5   -.44
Brissett   6   23.1   .300   14.3   1.07      Jackson  11    9.0   .010   -4.9    .01
Tillman    2   -1.5  -.050   -3.3   -.99     McDermott  6    8.9   .025    2.1   -.23
.                                             J Smith   4   15.0   .027   -0.9    .67
. totals 253   18.6   .172   3.04   1.25     . totals 253   14.5   .036   0.36    .75

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 1:50 pm
by Mike G
Mavs 2 - 0 Wolves
avg score 108.5 - 106.5
Pyth wins 1.12 - .88 , eWins 1.06 - .94

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.41   Luka Dončić    Dal   41  .580   30.2   7.2   8.4   1.3   3.6   .4   2.42
.22  Anthony Edwards Min   41  .513   16.9   7.5   6.7    .9   3.1   .5   1.30
.21   Kyrie Irving   Dal   40  .562   22.5   4.2   4.1    .5   1.8   .5   1.28
.21  Dereck Lively   Dal   27  1.00   20.7  12.9   2.9    .0    .6  1.3   1.86
.18   Naz Reid       Min   28  .792   27.7   4.5   1.2   1.8   2.5  1.2   1.58

.17  Daniel Gafford  Dal   21  .650   22.1  12.2    .0    .0   1.7  5.1   1.92
.16   Rudy Gobert    Min   38  .583   12.6   8.6   1.4   1.5    .0  1.5   1.04
.13   Karl-A Towns   Min   30  .383   13.5   8.8   3.0   1.8    .8   .0   1.08
.10   Kyle Anderson  Min   19  .600   16.2   6.4   6.1    .0    .0   .0   1.28
.10   Mike Conley    Min   32  .490   12.4   4.8   4.6   1.7   2.4   .6    .73

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.06   Jaden Hardy    Dal   11  .556   15.9   3.1   6.8   3.1   1.5   .0   1.26
.05  Jaden McDaniels Min   38  .619   12.7   4.5   2.4    .5   3.3  1.0    .33
.02  P.J. Washington Dal   40  .489    8.4   5.6    .0    .5   1.8  1.8    .11
.01   Josh Green     Dal   18  .500    6.5   6.7    .9   1.9   1.9  1.0    .20
-.00  Tim Hardaway   Dal    8  .000     .0   8.5    .0   2.1    .0   .0   -.10

-.01  Nickeil A-W    Min   16  .364    6.2   2.2   4.2    .0   2.9  1.1   -.13
-.02  Derrick Jones  Dal   34  .400    4.5   4.4   1.5   1.1    .5   .0   -.11
shooting : Dal .577 - .543 Min
rebounds: Dal 46.0 - 40.0 Min
turnovers: Min 9.5 - 11.5 Dal

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. Min     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480      . Dal    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Edwards   41   15.9   .090    3.9   1.30      Dončić   41   26.8   .197   11.6   2.42
McDaniels 38    8.9   .012   -0.9    .33      Irving   40   17.3   .121    1.7   1.28
Gobert    38   17.6   .185    1.8   1.04    Washington 40    6.3  -.001   -5.8    .11
Conley    32   11.6   .037   -0.9    .73      Jones    34    5.4   .015   -5.7   -.11
Towns     30   11.6  -.015   -3.0   1.08      Lively   27   27.2   .342   10.2   1.86
Reid      28   24.4   .217   11.9   1.58      Gafford  21   27.0   .191    3.9   1.92
Anderson  19   18.7   .226    3.7   1.28      Green    18    9.7   .040   -0.4    .20
Ni. A-W   16    3.3  -.154   -8.0   -.13      Hardy    11   19.9   .189    8.7   1.26
.                                             Hardaway  8    1.1  -.053   -7.4   -.10
.                                             Exum      3   -7.5  -.190  -15.9   -.95
. totals 240   14.3   .081   1.46    .94     . totals 240   16.2   .118   1.94   1.06

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 2:58 pm
by Crow
5 of top 8 by eWins and 5 of 10 by e480 are... Centers.

Teams wanting to beat these 2 teams in future playoffs should seriously consider the match-up approach. Personnel, style of play, detailed tactics.

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 11:13 am
by Mike G
Celtics 3 - 0 Pacers
avg score 124.3 - 116.3
Pyth wins 2.12 - .88 , eWins 1.81 - 1.19

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e497
.50   Jayson Tatum   Bos   44  .576   24.6   8.7   4.4   1.1   2.6   .6   1.86
.38   Jaylen Brown   Bos   40  .588   25.7   4.9   2.9   1.5   2.1   .6   1.60
.36   Jrue Holiday   Bos   41  .760   19.2   6.4   5.8   1.7   2.8   .3   1.45
.33   Pascal Siakam  Ind   36  .617   22.4   7.6   3.8    .7   2.1   .0   1.50
.33   Derrick White  Bos   38  .573   14.7   5.4   6.6    .9    .7  1.9   1.42

.26  Andrew Nembhard Ind   34  .638   20.6   3.7   5.7    .4   1.8   .0   1.26
.21  Ty. Haliburton  Ind   23  .636   17.7   4.2   7.2   2.3   2.0   .5   1.50
.20  T.J. McConnell  Ind   24  .563   18.8   9.0   4.6   1.0   2.3   .0   1.43
.18   Al Horford     Bos   33  .603   12.0   8.6    .3   1.0    .9  2.2    .88
.16   Myles Turner   Ind   34  .679   19.0   9.7   1.3    .4   5.7   .7    .78

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e497
.07   Obi Toppin     Ind   22  .652   14.3   5.7   1.9    .5   3.1   .5    .49
.06 Payton Pritchard Bos   19  .786   14.1   2.6   3.8    .0   1.4   .0    .51
.02  Isaiah Jackson  Ind   10  .313    2.3  11.6    .0    .0    .0  2.1    .31
.02   Luke Kornet    Bos    6  .714    8.7  11.5   1.6    .0   2.0   .0    .49
.02  Oshae Brissett  Bos    7  1.00    3.3   6.6    .0   4.2    .0  1.5    .40

.01  Doug McDermott  Ind    5  .667    7.1   2.1   4.3    .0    .0  1.9    .35
-.01  Aaron Nesmith  Ind   33  .551    8.2   5.8   1.7   1.2   3.6   .0   -.07
-.02  Sam Hauser     Bos   15  .100     .3   5.6   2.0   1.4    .8   .7   -.21
-.02  Xavier Tillman Bos    6  1.00    4.4   2.0    .0   1.7   2.1   .0   -.55
-.06  Ben Sheppard   Ind   22  .310    2.4   4.7   1.6    .6   1.9   .0   -.48
shooting : Bos .615 - .598 Ind
rebounds: Ind 41.3 - 39.7 Bos
turnovers: Bos 12.0 - 16.3 Ind

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. Bos     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480      . Ind     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Tatum     44   21.8   .164    2.3   1.86      Siakam    36   21.7   .133    4.8   1.50
Holiday   41   22.4   .239    7.2   1.45      Turner    34   12.2  -.022   -1.7    .79
Brown     40   22.0   .153    1.3   1.60      Nembhard  34   19.9   .149    4.9   1.26
White     38   19.2   .218    5.3   1.42      Nesmith   33    5.1  -.049   -6.0   -.07
Horford   33   17.5   .149    2.4    .88      McConnell 24   20.9   .110    2.9   1.43
Pritchard 19   14.0   .142    0.9    .51     Haliburton 23   21.2   .147    9.5   1.50
Hauser    15   -2.4  -.117  -10.3   -.21      Sheppard  22     .3  -.093   -9.2   -.48
Brissett   7   14.2   .208    5.5    .40      Toppin    22   12.5   .016    0.4    .49
Kornet     6   13.0   .062   -1.2    .49      Jackson   10    9.0  -.010   -5.5    .31
Tillman    6    4.0   .012   -5.3   -.55      McDermott  5   16.7   .168    7.6    .35
. totals 248   18.2   .161    2.5   1.21     . totals  243   14.3   .049    0.6    .79

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 2:20 pm
by Mike G
Mavs 3 - 0 Wolves
avg score 111.0 - 106.7
Pyth wins 1.89 - 1.11 , eWins 1.69 - 1.31

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.68   Luka Dončić    Dal   41  .605   30.4   7.6   7.3   2.3   3.3   .6   2.65
.38   Kyrie Irving   Dal   41  .606   25.3   4.0   3.9    .6   2.4   .3   1.48
.33  Anthony Edwards Min   41  .500   17.5   8.2   6.3   1.2   4.5   .3   1.29
.29   Dereck Lively  Dal   21  1.00   21.2  13.9   3.6    .0    .5  1.6   2.19
.22   Naz Reid       Min   28  .722   22.0   4.6   1.5   1.3   1.9   .8   1.22

.21   Rudy Gobert    Min   35  .638   12.4   9.0   1.6   1.1    .5  1.1    .96
.20   Karl-A Towns   Min   33  .369   11.2  10.2   2.6   1.1    .6   .0    .98
.18  Daniel Gafford  Dal   24  .633   15.8   9.7    .5    .0   2.6  4.6   1.23
.15   Mike Conley    Min   32  .563   14.3   3.8   4.1   1.6   2.3   .4    .76
.15   Kyle Anderson  Min   18  .667   18.5   4.8   5.5    .0   1.9  1.2   1.27

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.09  P.J. Washington Dal   40  .549    9.9   6.8    .6    .3   1.2  1.2    .36
.08  Jaden McDaniels Min   36  .707   13.9   3.8   1.5    .7   2.6   .7    .35
.08   Jaden Hardy    Dal   11  .567   17.6   4.5   4.8   2.0   2.0   .0   1.17
.01   Josh Green     Dal   20  .611    6.0   5.7   1.6   1.1   1.7   .6    .04
-.00  Tim Hardaway   Dal    5  .000     .0   9.5    .0   2.1    .0   .0   -.03

-.00  Derrick Jones  Dal   34  .575    7.4   4.0   1.7    .7   1.1   .0   -.01
-.03  Nickeil A-W    Min   17  .367    5.2   2.9   4.1    .0   3.0   .7   -.24
shooting : Dal .617 - .555 Min
rebounds: Dal 41.3 - 37.7 Min
turnovers: Min 9.7 - 12.3 Dal

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. Min     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480      . Dal    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Edwards   41   16.6   .046    2.9   1.29      Dončić   41   28.6   .237   12.5   2.65
McDaniels 36   11.6   .057    1.2    .35      Irving   41   19.8   .137    1.8   1.48
Gobert    35   17.0   .164    1.4    .96    Washington 40    9.6   .061   -2.7    .36
Towns     33    9.6  -.046   -5.1    .98      Jones    34    7.4   .054   -2.4   -.01
Conley    32   13.7   .070    1.3    .76      Gafford  24   17.5   .090   -0.7   1.23
Reid      28   21.3   .179    8.5   1.22      Lively   21   30.2   .377   11.8   2.19
Anderson  18   20.3   .201    5.4   1.27      Green    20    8.5   .056    0.4    .04
Ni. A-W   17    2.8  -.139   -7.4   -.24      Hardy    11   16.8   .138    1.0   1.17
.                                             Hardaway  5    1.9  -.071   -7.4   -.03
.                                             Powell    3    6.8   .064   -8.8    .48
.                                             Exum      2   -1.2  -.125   -8.7   -.59
. totals 240   14.4   .068   1.24    .87     . totals 240   16.8   .132   2.37   1.13

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:10 pm
by Mike G
Celtics 4 - 0 Pacers
avg score 119.5 - 112.8
Pyth wins 2.74 - 1.26 , eWins 2.37 - 1.63

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e493
.66   Jayson Tatum   Bos   44  .555   23.5   9.4   5.0   1.0   3.2   .4   1.85
.53   Jaylen Brown   Bos   41  .586   25.1   4.9   2.6   1.7   2.4   .7   1.59
.46   Derrick White  Bos   39  .573   14.2   4.9   5.8   1.8    .6  2.1   1.45
.44   Jrue Holiday   Bos   40  .725   18.2   6.9   5.0   1.3   2.4   .2   1.36
.43  Andrew Nembhard Ind   35  .641   21.4   4.3   6.4    .6   1.9   .3   1.52

.41   Pascal Siakam  Ind   37  .578   20.1   8.0   3.5    .5   2.0   .0   1.36
.27  T.J. McConnell  Ind   24  .526   17.5   8.2   4.6   1.1   1.7   .0   1.38
.26   Al Horford     Bos   35  .614   11.0   8.3   1.5   1.0    .6  1.9    .90
.23  Ty. Haliburton  Ind   17  .636   17.8   4.0   7.5   2.3   1.6   .5   1.63
.16   Myles Turner   Ind   32  .663   17.0   8.6   1.3    .3   4.9   .6    .61

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e493
.11   Obi Toppin     Ind   24  .656   13.7   6.3   1.9    .7   2.4   .3    .57
.06 Payton Pritchard Bos   16  .794   14.2   2.6   3.2    .0   1.1   .0    .47
.03   Aaron Nesmith  Ind   34  .532    9.0   5.9   1.5   1.2   2.2   .0    .12
.03  Isaiah Jackson  Ind   11  .375    3.5  11.4    .0    .0    .7  2.8    .37
.03  Doug McDermott  Ind    7  .875    8.0   2.2   4.7    .0    .0  2.0    .47

.01   Luke Kornet    Bos    5  .714    8.3  10.4   1.5    .0   1.9   .0    .40
.01  Oshae Brissett  Bos    5  1.00    3.2   6.1    .0   4.0    .0  1.4    .31
-.03  Sam Hauser     Bos   15  .206    1.6   4.5   2.0   1.0   1.2  1.0   -.27
-.04  Xavier Tillman Bos    6  .333    1.4   3.7    .0   1.1   2.7   .0   -.83
-.08  Ben Sheppard   Ind   22  .324    2.6   4.7   1.2    .8   1.2   .0   -.44
shooting : Bos .600 - .585 Ind
rebounds: Ind 42.8 - 40.8 Bos
turnovers: Bos 12.3 - 15.8 Ind

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. Bos     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480      . Ind    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Tatum     44   19.9   .133    1.5   1.85      Siakam   37   19.2   .097    2.6   1.36
Brown     41   21.3   .143    1.7   1.59      Nembhard 35   21.6   .171    6.9   1.52
Holiday   40   20.4   .216    5.2   1.36      Nesmith  34    7.1  -.008   -4.5    .12
White     39   20.0   .222    6.7   1.45      Turner   32    9.7  -.036   -3.4    .61
Horford   35   16.6   .172    3.0    .90      Toppin   24   13.1   .040    1.1    .57
Pritchard 16   15.2   .165    1.3    .47     McConnell 24   19.6   .088    2.2   1.38
Hauser    15   -1.3  -.113  -10.2   -.27      Sheppard 22    1.2  -.057   -7.9   -.44
Tillman    6     .6  -.064  -10.4   -.83    Haliburton 17   21.2   .147    9.5   1.63
Brissett   5   14.2   .207    5.5    .31      Jackson  11   11.6   .029   -4.9    .37
Kornet     5   12.3   .049   -1.2    .40     McDermott  7   17.7   .217   10.4    .47
. totals 246   17.5   .152   2.29   1.19     . totals 243   14.1   .058   0.64    .81

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 1:27 pm
by Mike G
Jaylen Brown got the ECF mvp trophy. Looking above, maybe only PER would support that.
Here we have 4 summary stats, scaled to 4.0 total 'wins', averaged:

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xyzW   player         tm   min   perW   WS   bpmW   eW
.54   Derrick White   Bos  156   .45   .67   .57   .45
.53   Jrue Holiday    Bos  161   .48   .67   .51   .45
.49   Jayson Tatum    Bos  175   .50   .45   .36   .66
.46  Andrew Nembhard  Ind  139   .44   .46   .51   .43
.46   Jaylen Brown    Bos  163   .51   .45   .34   .53
.36   Pascal Siakam   Ind  149   .40   .28   .35   .40
.34   Al Horford      Bos  139   .31   .46   .35   .24
.24 Tyrese Haliburton Ind   69   .22   .20   .31   .23
.23   T.J. McConnell  Ind   96   .27   .16   .22   .28
.13  Payton Pritchard Bos   65   .12   .21   .13   .07
.13   Obi Toppin      Ind   96   .14   .07   .18   .11
.09   Doug McDermott  Ind   29   .07   .12   .14   .03
.06   Myles Turner    Ind  129   .10  -.09   .07   .15
.05   Oshae Brissett  Bos   21   .04   .08   .07   .01
.03   Isaiah Jackson  Ind   42   .05   .02   .00   .03
.02   Luke Kornet     Bos   18   .02   .02   .02   .02
.02   Aaron Nesmith   Ind  134   .04  -.02   .03   .03
.01   Jalen Smith     Ind    7   .01   .00   .01   .01
.00   Jarace Walker   Ind    5   .01  -.01  -.00   .01
.00   Kendall Brown   Ind    4  -.00  -.01   .01  -.01
-.03  Xavier Tillman  Bos   25  -.03  -.03  -.04  -.04
-.08  Ben Sheppard    Ind   87  -.08  -.10  -.07  -.08
-.08  Sam Hauser      Bos   59  -.08  -.13  -.09  -.03
PER likes Brown by a whisker; eWins says Tatum by a lot; BPM says White by a good bit; WS prefers White, Holiday -- and Horford.

Both teams eventually went 10 deep in non-garbage time. Correlations between minutes and stats at top 7, 8, 9, and 10 are taken and then averaged (bottom line).

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all  1thru  PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
.77    7    .81    .63    .70    .93
.86    8    .88    .76    .82    .96
.67    9    .76    .50    .53    .90
.65   10    .71    .52    .52    .86
.74   Bos   .79    .60    .64    .92
                    
all  1thru  PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
.41    7    .41    .40    .39    .44
.01    8    .07    .02   -.12    .06
.13    9    .13    .08    .13    .18
-.07  10    .00   -.27   -.20    .20
.12   Ind   .15    .06    .05    .22
Haliburton is Ind #8 and torpedoes the overall correlation. Then, to a couple of stats, McDermott looked like Pacers' #1 player at #10 in minutes.

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 7:25 pm
by Crow
Celtics best thru 8. Pacers 7.

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 12:00 pm
by Mike G
Mavs 3 - 1 Wolves
avg score 108.3 - 106.3
Pyth wins 2.25 - 1.75 , eWins 2.12 - 1.88

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.93   Luka Dončić    Dal   41  .583   28.9   9.5   7.7   2.0   3.2   .4   2.73
.53  Anthony Edwards Min   41  .500   19.3   8.5   6.6    .9   3.6   .2   1.53
.37   Kyrie Irving   Dal   41  .563   21.4   3.5   3.8    .7   2.7   .2   1.09
.32  Dereck Lively   Dal   16  1.00   23.5  14.2   3.7    .0    .6  1.6   2.42
.30  Daniel Gafford  Dal   26  .705   16.4  10.1    .7    .4   1.8  4.3   1.39

.29   Mike Conley    Min   32  .581   15.0   3.8   4.9   2.3   1.2   .3   1.07
.28   Karl-A Towns   Min   32  .464   15.7   9.5   2.3    .9   1.5   .0   1.06
.26   Rudy Gobert    Min   36  .649   12.9   9.3   1.4    .8    .8  1.0    .88
.26   Naz Reid       Min   26  .682   20.0   5.5   1.5   1.0   1.4  1.0   1.19
.18   Kyle Anderson  Min   20  .625   13.8   5.2   5.4   1.3    .9   .9   1.10

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.14   Jaden Hardy    Dal   11  .652   25.7   4.3   3.7   1.5   2.3   .0   1.53
.07  Jaden McDaniels Min   37  .689   12.2   3.0   1.1    .7   1.3   .7    .24
.05  P.J. Washington Dal   40  .495    8.1   6.4    .9    .2   1.2  1.1    .16
.02  Derrick Jones   Dal   34  .593    8.1   4.6   2.3    .8   1.4   .0    .07
.02   Dante Exum     Dal    3  .625   13.8    .0   2.8   2.9    .0   .0    .71

.00   Josh Green     Dal   19  .615    6.9   5.0   1.7   1.3   1.8   .4    .03
.00 Nickeil A-Walker Min   16  .425    6.8   3.5   3.4    .5   2.2  1.1    .03
.00   Tim Hardaway   Dal    4  .000     .0   9.9    .0   2.2    .0   .0    .01
-.01  Dwight Powell  Dal    3  .333    3.8   6.7    .0   3.0   3.0   .0   -.45
-.02  Maxi Kleber    Dal    4  .333    2.4   2.7   2.3    .0    .0   .0   -.59
shooting : Dal .601 - .569 Min
rebounds: Dal 40.5 - 38.3 Min
turnovers: Min 11.0 - 12.8 Dal

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. Min     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480     . Dal    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Edwards   41   16.2   .035    1.4   1.53     Irving   41   15.7   .075   -0.5   1.09
McDaniels 37   10.7   .066    0.7    .24     Dončić   41   27.3   .230   11.6   2.73
Gobert    36   15.3   .151    0.8    .88   Washington 40    8.2   .034   -3.6    .16
Conley    32   16.9   .137    4.3   1.07     Jones    34    8.4   .068   -1.1    .07
Towns     32   12.7   .014   -2.6   1.06     Gafford  26   19.7   .156    2.5   1.39
Reid      26   19.2   .145    6.1   1.19     Green    19    8.6   .058    0.1    .03
Anderson  20   18.7   .203    5.8   1.10     Lively   16   30.2   .377   11.8   2.42
Walker    16    5.2  -.095   -4.5    .03     Hardy    11   20.3   .179    4.7   1.53
.                                            Hardaway  4    1.9  -.079   -7.4    .01
.                                            Kleber    4   -6.2  -.071   -8.3   -.59
.                                            Exum      3   19.0   .173    8.7    .71
.                                            Powell    3   -1.1  -.088  -14.8   -.45
. totals 240   14.6   .084   1.55    .94    . totals 240   15.7   .120   2.10   1.06

Re: 2024 Playoffs Conf. Finals

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 12:08 pm
by Mike G
Mavs 4 - 1 Wolves
avg score 111.4 - 105.6
Pyth wins 3.35 - 1.65 , eWins 2.93 - 2.07 :

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
1.38  Luka Dončić    Dal   40  .616   32.4   9.7   7.0   2.0   3.4   .4   3.30
.73  Anthony Edwards Min   42  .530   19.9   8.4   5.8    .9   3.2   .4   1.69
.60   Kyrie Irving   Dal   41  .577   23.4   3.6   3.9    .5   2.2   .2   1.42
.49   Dereck Lively  Dal   18  .927   22.8  13.3   3.6    .0    .8  2.3   2.65
.42   Karl-A Towns   Min   33  .488   16.4   9.9   2.0    .9   1.6   .0   1.23

.41  Daniel Gafford  Dal   24  .740   18.3  10.9    .5    .3   2.1  3.8   1.62
.31   Mike Conley    Min   30  .581   14.0   4.2   4.3   2.4   1.3   .2    .98
.26   Rudy Gobert    Min   34  .621   12.2   8.8   1.3    .8   1.1   .9    .75
.19   Naz Reid       Min   26  .594   15.1   5.4   1.3    .8   2.0  1.0    .67
.16   Jaden Hardy    Dal   10  .661   26.0   3.4   2.8   1.2   2.5   .0   1.48

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.15   Kyle Anderson  Min   22  .561   10.4   4.6   4.4   1.2   1.0   .9    .64
.06  P.J. Washington Dal   39  .513    8.1   6.6   1.0    .6   1.3   .9    .14
.02  Jaden McDaniels Min   34  .686   11.8   2.8    .9    .6   1.4  1.1    .07
-.00  Dante Exum     Dal    5  .500    4.5   4.3   2.4   1.3    .0   .0   -.04
-.00  Tim Hardaway   Dal    3  .000     .0   9.1    .0   2.1    .0   .0   -.12

-.02  Dwight Powell  Dal    3  .500    7.6   7.0    .0   2.1   4.3   .0   -.70
-.04  Maxi Kleber    Dal    5  .417    4.2   3.1   1.3   1.4   1.4   .0   -.75
-.04  Josh Green     Dal   19  .563    5.4   3.9   1.6   1.8   1.5   .4   -.21
-.05  Ni. A-Walker   Min   16  .386    4.4   2.7   2.9   1.3   1.8   .8   -.34
-.06  Derrick Jones  Dal   33  .561    6.7   4.1   2.2    .7   1.1   .2   -.17
shooting : Dal .613 - .560 Min
rebounds: Dal 41.4 - 38.8 Min
turnovers: Min 11.6 - 12.8 Dal

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. Min     mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480      . Dal    mpg   PER   WS/48   BPM   e480
Edwards   42   18.4   .069    3.1   1.69      Irving   41   18.3   .132    0.8   1.42
Gobert    34   14.6   .109   -0.3    .75      Dončić   40   28.9   .263   12.2   3.30
McDaniels 34   10.4   .049    0.5    .07    Washington 39    9.2   .056   -2.5    .14
Towns     33   15.9   .043   -1.1   1.23      Jones    33    8.0   .076   -1.1   -.17
Conley    30   16.6   .119    4.1    .98      Gafford  24   20.4   .189    2.3   1.62
Reid      26   13.9   .052    1.0    .67      Green    19    8.4   .069    0.6   -.21
Anderson  22   15.1   .133    3.0    .64      Lively   18   27.8   .356   11.4   2.65
A-Walker  16    4.9  -.108   -4.4   -.34      Hardy    10   20.2   .164    3.8   1.48
.                                             Exum      5   11.0   .113    1.6   -.04
.                                             Kleber    5   -1.8  -.047   -7.1   -.75
.                                             Hardaway  3    1.9  -.053   -7.4   -.12
.                                             Powell    3     .7  -.074  -14.1   -.70
. totals 237   14.4   .064    1.0    .83     . totals 239   16.4   .143    2.5   1.17