2011 Playoff summaries
Re: 2011 Playoff summaries
Does anyone else separate stats by playoff series, or is it still just this here?
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I'm not clear on what you're asking. I've been putting up stats for each series on my blog, but not here.
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Arturo does it too on his site, taken to win equivalents. Others post series stats but usually not taken to win equivalents. I'd have to check the B-R blog again to see what they've done.
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I don't know who Arturo is, and b-r.com blog gives series "previews" which are just regular season stats.
Evan, your profile doesn't contain a link. I don't see signatures any more.
Evan, your profile doesn't contain a link. I don't see signatures any more.
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http://arturogalletti.wordpress.com/
http://thecity2.com/
(I put these sites in the linkage thread previously.)
I thought basketball-reference's blog might do it with Win Shares, but not so far. Would be welcome. Maybe it was done in the past. The values are still available to be looked up for the teams on their pages as series progress.
http://thecity2.com/
(I put these sites in the linkage thread previously.)
I thought basketball-reference's blog might do it with Win Shares, but not so far. Would be welcome. Maybe it was done in the past. The values are still available to be looked up for the teams on their pages as series progress.
Last edited by Crow on Sat May 14, 2011 7:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 2011 Playoff summaries
eW per game based on the May 12 data by position:
(one may differ with the primary position given to some tweeners)
eW/G Center
.148 Gasol,Marc
.092 Noah,Joakim
.067 Gasol,Pau
.059 Bynum,Andrew
eW/G PF
.192 Nowitzki,Dirk
.127 Randolph,Zach
.116 Smith,Josh
.106 Garnett,Kevin
.095 Bosh,Chris
.081 Horford,Al
.072 Boozer,Carlos
.062 Gibson,Taj
.058 Ibaka,Serge
eW/G SF
.204 James,Lebron
.165 Durant,Kevin
.104 Pierce,Paul
.072 Deng,Luol
eW/G SG
.240 Wade,Dwyane
.150 Terry,Jason
.103 Harden,James
.090 Johnson,Joe
.078 Bryant,Kobe
.073 Allen,Ray
eW/G PG
.238 Rose,Derrick
.169 Westbrook,Russel
.095 Barea,JJ
.091 Teague,Jeff
.070 Kidd,Jason
.066 Rondo,Rajon
.061 Conley,Mike
Chicago has 5; Dallas, OKC, Atlanta and Boston with 4.
(one may differ with the primary position given to some tweeners)
eW/G Center
.148 Gasol,Marc
.092 Noah,Joakim
.067 Gasol,Pau
.059 Bynum,Andrew
eW/G PF
.192 Nowitzki,Dirk
.127 Randolph,Zach
.116 Smith,Josh
.106 Garnett,Kevin
.095 Bosh,Chris
.081 Horford,Al
.072 Boozer,Carlos
.062 Gibson,Taj
.058 Ibaka,Serge
eW/G SF
.204 James,Lebron
.165 Durant,Kevin
.104 Pierce,Paul
.072 Deng,Luol
eW/G SG
.240 Wade,Dwyane
.150 Terry,Jason
.103 Harden,James
.090 Johnson,Joe
.078 Bryant,Kobe
.073 Allen,Ray
eW/G PG
.238 Rose,Derrick
.169 Westbrook,Russel
.095 Barea,JJ
.091 Teague,Jeff
.070 Kidd,Jason
.066 Rondo,Rajon
.061 Conley,Mike
Chicago has 5; Dallas, OKC, Atlanta and Boston with 4.
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Ah, good point. I forgot about that after the great hack.Mike G wrote:I don't know who Arturo is, and b-r.com blog gives series "previews" which are just regular season stats.
Evan, your profile doesn't contain a link. I don't see signatures any more.
Re: 2011 Playoff summaries
Final 2nd Round leaders, in eWins per game.
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eW/G per36 rates tm mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
.240 Wade,Dwyane Mia 41 .599 32.8 7.6 5.2 3.0 1.8 2.7 .5 2.82
.238 Rose,Derrick Chi 42 .511 32.1 4.6 9.0 .9 .7 3.1 .7 2.75
.204 James,Lebron Mia 45 .543 25.7 8.3 3.8 2.0 1.5 2.8 1.5 2.20
.192 Nowitzki,Dirk Dal 38 .664 32.3 9.8 3.2 1.7 .7 1.7 .5 2.45
.176 Westbrook,Russel Okl 37 .503 24.0 5.4 9.7 3.3 1.7 4.7 .4 2.39
.156 Durant,Kevin Okl 41 .556 23.6 8.4 1.6 2.4 .6 2.0 .9 1.92
.150 Terry,Jason Dal 31 .745 32.7 2.8 5.6 1.4 1.4 1.1 .6 2.34
.135 Randolph,Zach Mem 42 .495 18.3 11.1 1.4 3.0 .7 1.9 .9 1.65
.122 Gasol,Marc Mem 39 .542 14.5 9.9 2.1 2.8 1.5 1.7 2.5 1.58
.116 Smith,Josh Atl 39 .423 13.7 9.4 4.1 3.0 .9 1.9 2.7 1.44
.109 Harden,James Okl 32 .626 18.2 5.5 5.6 2.7 1.4 2.1 1.1 1.74
.106 Garnett,Kevin Bos 38 .450 12.9 11.7 2.1 3.8 1.7 1.3 1.1 1.33
.104 Pierce,Paul Bos 38 .563 20.9 6.2 3.4 3.1 .8 2.7 .4 1.32
.095 Bosh,Chris Mia 38 .485 12.6 12.2 1.8 2.1 1.0 1.5 1.0 1.20
.095 Barea,Jose_Juan Dal 18 .582 27.9 2.1 14.3 .5 .0 1.9 .0 2.52
eW/G per36 rates tm mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
.092 Noah,Joakim Chi 35 .500 8.5 13.7 3.3 3.6 .8 .8 1.7 1.26
.091 Teague,Jeff Atl 41 .603 17.3 2.7 3.9 1.6 1.1 .9 .5 1.06
.090 Johnson,Joe Atl 42 .611 20.3 2.3 2.6 1.4 1.7 1.9 .0 1.03
.081 Horford,Al Atl 38 .500 11.0 9.9 3.8 2.7 .2 1.5 1.3 1.02
.078 Bryant,Kobe LA 37 .514 22.3 3.2 2.2 1.7 1.7 2.7 .2 1.01
.073 Allen,Ray Bos 40 .651 17.1 3.3 2.7 2.6 .9 .9 .0 .87
.072 Conley,Mike Mem 40 .481 13.2 3.1 6.3 2.4 1.2 2.2 .3 .93
.072 Deng,Luol Chi 45 .513 12.5 6.7 1.8 1.6 .5 .5 .8 .77
.072 Boozer,Carlos Chi 31 .523 15.1 12.3 1.9 3.1 .2 1.9 .0 1.12
.070 Kidd,Jason Dal 32 .425 8.7 4.0 13.2 3.1 2.3 4.3 .6 1.05
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Memphis Grizzlies' summaries, vs the Spurs (6 G) and the Thunder (7 G).
Under 'e480' vs Okl, it's really eW/509 minutes. 1.00 is still avg.Just 2 of 9 players (Mayo and Gasol) were better in the 2nd round. Conley and Vasquez were consistent.
Under 'e480' vs Okl, it's really eW/509 minutes. 1.00 is still avg.
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per36 rates opp eWins mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
Allen,Tony SAS .26 27 .486 12.5 3.9 3.3 4.1 3.2 2.5 .4 .76
Allen,Tony Okl .09 27 .463 10.9 4.5 1.6 5.0 2.2 2.6 .6 .23
Allen,Tony tot .34 27 .474 11.6 4.2 2.4 4.6 2.6 2.5 .5 .48
Arthur,Dar SAS .24 17 .565 17.0 6.0 1.2 3.9 .7 2.0 2.9 1.18
Arthur,Dar Okl .07 15 .431 12.3 4.3 1.4 6.2 1.7 2.1 1.0 .36
Arthur,Dar tot .32 16 .497 14.6 5.1 1.3 5.1 1.2 2.0 2.0 .76
Battier,Sh SAS .11 27 .609 8.2 5.6 2.0 2.7 .8 .6 .4 .32
Battier,Sh Okl -.05 25 .429 4.5 5.6 1.4 2.8 .6 .6 .8 -.15
Battier,Sh tot .05 26 .515 6.3 5.6 1.7 2.8 .7 .6 .6 .07
per36 rates opp eWins mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
Conley,Mike SAS .52 39 .457 13.0 4.6 7.3 3.3 .8 2.1 .2 1.08
Conley,Mike Okl .51 40 .481 13.2 3.1 6.3 2.4 1.2 2.2 .3 .93
Conley,Mike tot 1.02 39 .470 13.2 3.8 6.8 2.8 1.0 2.2 .2 1.00
Gasol,Marc SAS .68 40 .559 13.9 11.9 2.3 3.5 .5 2.0 1.3 1.36
Gasol,Marc Okl .85 39 .542 14.5 9.9 2.1 2.8 1.5 1.7 2.5 1.58
Gasol,Marc tot 1.54 40 .550 14.2 10.8 2.2 3.1 1.0 1.8 1.9 1.48
Mayo,O.J. SAS .10 23 .482 13.1 3.2 3.0 5.0 .7 2.0 .0 .36
Mayo,O.J. Okl .38 33 .503 13.2 4.7 3.4 3.4 1.3 1.4 .6 .84
Mayo,O.J. tot .48 28 .495 13.2 4.1 3.3 4.0 1.1 1.6 .4 .66
per36 rates opp eWins mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
Randolph,Z SAS 1.05 37 .558 23.7 9.6 3.9 3.5 1.3 2.0 .5 2.25
Randolph,Z Okl .94 42 .495 18.3 11.1 1.4 3.0 .7 1.9 .9 1.65
Randolph,Z tot 1.99 40 .523 20.7 10.5 2.5 3.2 1.0 1.9 .7 1.91
Vasquez,Gr SAS .19 10 .658 17.7 4.9 6.8 2.6 1.0 2.6 .5 1.50
Vasquez,Gr Okl .21 12 .544 14.6 4.6 6.3 2.6 1.3 1.7 .4 1.31
Vasquez,Gr tot .40 11 .593 15.9 4.7 6.5 2.6 1.2 2.1 .5 1.39
Young,Sam SAS .18 22 .551 15.9 4.7 .3 2.8 .8 1.4 .5 .65
Young,Sam Okl -.07 18 .378 6.6 4.4 .3 2.4 .9 .9 .3 -.27
Young,Sam tot .11 20 .467 11.4 4.5 .3 2.6 .9 1.1 .4 .21
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eWins leaders through the first 2 rounds.
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eWins rounds 1-2 tm G mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
2.42 Rose,Derrick Chi 11 40 .516 30.7 4.6 8.2 1.7 1.4 3.3 .8 2.63
2.26 Wade,Dwyane Mia 10 39 .558 29.0 8.0 5.7 2.4 1.6 2.7 1.2 2.75
2.21 James,Lebron Mia 10 44 .557 25.3 8.9 5.1 1.8 1.1 2.0 1.1 2.45
2.11 Durant,Kevin Okl 12 42 .579 26.7 6.9 2.3 2.6 .7 1.7 .9 2.09
2.07 Nowitzki,Dirk Dal 10 38 .601 31.8 9.2 3.1 2.1 .6 2.6 .5 2.61
2.00 Westbrook,Russel Okl 12 37 .499 24.5 5.7 8.8 3.4 1.3 4.5 .4 2.25
1.99 Randolph,Zach Mem 13 40 .523 20.7 10.5 2.5 3.2 1.0 1.9 .7 1.91
1.65 Howard,Dwight Orl 6 43 .648 33.2 14.9 .4 3.6 .6 4.7 1.6 3.06
1.54 Gasol,Marc Mem 13 40 .550 14.2 10.8 2.2 3.1 1.0 1.8 1.9 1.48
1.26 Smith,Josh Atl 12 37 .443 15.2 9.1 3.0 3.3 1.1 2.2 1.8 1.38
1.21 Paul,Chris NO 6 42 .650 24.1 6.5 10.1 1.6 1.6 3.2 .0 2.33
1.21 Terry,Jason Dal 10 32 .642 26.0 2.5 4.8 1.7 1.2 1.6 .2 1.80
1.17 Noah,Joakim Chi 11 33 .525 12.5 13.3 2.8 4.4 .9 1.3 2.4 1.56
1.15 Bryant,Kobe LA 10 35 .527 25.7 4.2 3.9 2.4 1.7 3.2 .3 1.56
1.12 Bosh,Chris Mia 10 39 .509 16.4 10.4 1.3 2.0 .9 1.6 1.0 1.37
eWins rounds 1-2 tm G mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
1.10 Harden,James Okl 12 31 .602 16.1 6.0 4.9 3.1 1.4 1.9 1.1 1.47
1.08 Garnett,Kevin Bos 9 36 .472 15.2 12.1 3.0 3.0 1.9 2.1 1.0 1.59
1.05 Kidd,Jason Dal 10 34 .551 12.9 5.3 9.7 2.4 1.8 2.7 .5 1.50
1.05 Johnson,Joe Atl 12 41 .521 18.3 4.3 3.0 1.4 1.0 2.3 .1 1.01
1.05 Deng,Luol Chi 11 43 .513 15.0 6.2 2.9 1.8 1.1 1.0 .5 1.06
1.04 Bynum,Andrew LA 10 32 .584 19.1 13.2 1.0 3.8 .6 2.3 1.6 1.56
1.02 Conley,Mike Mem 13 39 .470 13.2 3.8 6.8 2.8 1.0 2.2 .2 1.00
1.02 Rondo,Rajon Bos 9 38 .498 14.4 5.6 10.4 1.7 1.1 3.5 .0 1.42
1.01 Pierce,Paul Bos 9 38 .567 22.3 5.3 3.0 3.2 1.3 2.6 .4 1.41
.98 Horford,Al Atl 12 39 .454 10.5 9.6 3.5 2.6 .4 1.3 1.0 1.00
.94 Allen,Ray Bos 9 40 .696 20.9 3.7 2.4 2.1 1.1 1.0 .1 1.24
.92 Boozer,Carlos Chi 11 31 .488 15.5 12.9 2.5 3.7 .5 2.5 .3 1.29
.90 Gasol,Pau LA 10 36 .487 13.5 9.4 4.3 3.4 .4 1.7 1.7 1.21
.80 Crawford,Jamal Atl 12 30 .499 19.5 1.6 2.9 1.6 .9 1.5 .4 1.07
.72 Ginobili,Manu SA 5 29 .569 25.3 4.5 4.5 2.7 2.7 3.6 .6 1.99
eWins rounds 1-2 tm G mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e480
.71 Ibaka,Serge Okl 12 29 .507 11.0 10.2 .4 5.0 .3 1.6 4.6 1.01
.67 Anthony,Carmelo NY 4 39 .495 24.4 10.0 4.1 3.7 1.2 3.0 .7 2.06
.65 Aldridge,Lamarcu Por 6 43 .492 16.3 6.9 1.1 2.7 1.1 1.3 1.4 1.20
.64 Wallace,Gerald Por 6 38 .548 15.9 9.8 2.6 3.1 1.3 2.4 .5 1.36
.63 Parker,Tony SA 6 37 .520 20.8 2.8 5.4 1.7 1.3 3.3 .3 1.36
.62 Nelson,Jameer Orl 6 36 .444 13.9 4.8 6.0 2.4 2.1 1.4 .0 1.39
.62 Granger,Danny Ind 5 37 .551 22.5 5.5 3.1 2.4 1.2 1.4 .2 1.62
.61 Odom,Lamar LA 10 29 .518 15.3 9.3 2.8 3.0 .2 1.8 .5 1.02
.61 Marion,Shawn Dal 10 31 .471 11.6 8.7 3.4 2.6 1.0 2.0 .9 .94
.60 Duncan,Tim SA 6 35 .494 13.1 11.7 3.0 3.0 .5 3.1 2.6 1.37
Re: 2011 Playoff summaries
Looking at the leader list here, here is the sum of the top 3-4 guys on the list by team:
Atlanta- 4 guys sum to 4.1 wins, or 68% of their actual win total.
Boston- 4 guys sum to 4.1 wins, or 82% of their actual win total.
Chicago- 4 guys sum to 5.6 wins, or 70% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
Dallas- 4 guys sum to 4.9 wins, or 61% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
Lakers- 4 guys sum to 3.7 wins, or 93% of their actual win total.
Memphis- 3 guys sum to 4.6 wins, or 66% of their actual win total.
Miami- 3 guys sum to 5.6 wins, or 70% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
OKC- 4 guys sum to 5.9 wins, or 74% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
The average eWins from these top 3-4 Stars as a % of the actual wins thru 2 rounds for those who played 2+ rounds is about 75%.
Teams with the least "top Star" winning impact delivered in this playoffs? The Pacers with only Granger and the Knicks with only Anthony appearing on the top Star eWin impact list and both at just about 2/3rds of a eWin. New Orleans and Portland got almost twice as much but just 1.2-1.3 eWins from "top Stars" is still a major issue for these teams knocked out of the 1st round. But there are some issues with them not doing enough but more so with the lack of adequate 2nd, 3rd and 4th win-producing, supporting players.
Atlanta- 4 guys sum to 4.1 wins, or 68% of their actual win total.
Boston- 4 guys sum to 4.1 wins, or 82% of their actual win total.
Chicago- 4 guys sum to 5.6 wins, or 70% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
Dallas- 4 guys sum to 4.9 wins, or 61% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
Lakers- 4 guys sum to 3.7 wins, or 93% of their actual win total.
Memphis- 3 guys sum to 4.6 wins, or 66% of their actual win total.
Miami- 3 guys sum to 5.6 wins, or 70% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
OKC- 4 guys sum to 5.9 wins, or 74% of their actual win total thru 2 rounds.
The average eWins from these top 3-4 Stars as a % of the actual wins thru 2 rounds for those who played 2+ rounds is about 75%.
Teams with the least "top Star" winning impact delivered in this playoffs? The Pacers with only Granger and the Knicks with only Anthony appearing on the top Star eWin impact list and both at just about 2/3rds of a eWin. New Orleans and Portland got almost twice as much but just 1.2-1.3 eWins from "top Stars" is still a major issue for these teams knocked out of the 1st round. But there are some issues with them not doing enough but more so with the lack of adequate 2nd, 3rd and 4th win-producing, supporting players.
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It's got to be a b*** for Dallas that Haslem recovered just in time for the (conference) finals. He will definitely make life harder for Dirk. Although Dirk will probably still get his points. I suspect Marion and Terry to struggle though. This time Dallas doesn't even have homecourt advantage. Wade will shot 15 free throws per game, you will read about the shady officiating on Cuban's blog until 2015. Miami wins the next 5 championsships and the NBA becomes utterly boring
(Actually I think Wade will shoot less free throws because of Chandler)
(Actually I think Wade will shoot less free throws because of Chandler)
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At some point I'm going to do a study on whether offensive efficiency drops when players are in the game for too long. In these playoffs it feels that every team that collapsed in the 4th quarter, which seemed to happen a lot of times, simply rode their star players way too much in the second half and/or 4th quarter. At some point these players, even if they're superstars, just have to be mentally fatigued I think. At that point it's not surprising when they cough up bad turnovers or start to have bad shot selection. I think in one OKC game the same 5 man unit played the entire 4th quarter, losing the quarter by 15; then the exact same unit played the entire overtime. Hm
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You're right, and this is historically a feature of younger/newer coaches.
Knowing when/how to change the lineup is what separates the great ones.
In general, sticking with proven substitution patterns is best, occasionally doing something novel. But no substitution? Nah.
Knowing when/how to change the lineup is what separates the great ones.
In general, sticking with proven substitution patterns is best, occasionally doing something novel. But no substitution? Nah.
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If anyone wants to "estimate" (R)APM from the playoffs, I made a quick regression using 3-yr RAPM and 3-yr advanced stats.
Offense had an R^2 of .6, Defense of .4. I combined the two sets of coefficients, however.
All variables were at p<.05
Intercept is zero.
Offense had an R^2 of .6, Defense of .4. I combined the two sets of coefficients, however.
All variables were at p<.05
Intercept is zero.
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coefficient value
TRB% 3.282424852
ORB% -1.704972232
DRB% -1.550130287
STL% 1.12274153
ORTGxUsg 1.062903376
USG% -0.945778193
TS% out of 100 -0.361792241
BLK% 0.247314245
eFG% out of 100 0.135585541
ORTG 0.085543135
TOV% 0.078829447
DRTG -0.03634377