What is per 100 poss?

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naynay
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What is per 100 poss?

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so B-R added the new function and I wanted to know what it exactly means? also how is it calculated?


The 'per 100 poss' stats are all higher than the 'per game' stats? why is this?
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Re: What is per 100 poss?

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Most games do not have 100 possessions per team per game. The avg this season was 93.9
This is also called Pace -- scroll down to Miscellaneous Stats -- http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... _2014.html

The fastest paced team was the Sixers, at 99.2 Poss/G. Slowest was the Grizzlies, at 89.9.
Nobody could have per game stats higher than their per100 rate unless they played every minute for a team such as the Sixers.
naynay
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Re: What is per 100 poss?

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Mike G wrote:Most games do not have 100 possessions per team per game. The avg this season was 93.9
This is also called Pace -- scroll down to Miscellaneous Stats -- http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... _2014.html

The fastest paced team was the Sixers, at 99.2 Poss/G. Slowest was the Grizzlies, at 89.9.
Nobody could have per game stats higher than their per100 rate unless they played every minute for a team such as the Sixers.


Thank you for the response! So for example Lebron's 2014 season

Per game
27.1 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.3 apg on 56.7% FG

Per 100
37.9 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 8.8 apg on 56.7% FG


So his per 100 stats are a reflection of his per game stats if he were to play every minute so to speak?
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Re: What is per 100 poss?

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naynay wrote:So his per 100 stats are a reflection of his per game stats if he were to play every minute so to speak?

Don't think of it in that context. "Per 100 poss" stats are just an attempt to get rid of the influence of pace; a player that plays on an up-tempo team (like the 76ers) has more opportunities to accumulate rebounds/shots/steals/etc. because they simply have more opportunities (i.e. possessions) than a team that plays at a slower paces.

So, instead of breaking down stats by game, which is influenced both by how fast a team's games tend to be and how many minutes a given player plays, or by a standard unit of time (i.e. per 36/48 minutes), which somewhat negates the discrepancies created by non-trivial differences in minutes played, but still is influenced by how fast a team's games tend to be, people oftentimes breakdown stats by a standard unit of possession (i.e. per 100 possession) in order to try and get round both issues.
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So his per 100 stats are a reflection of his per game stats if he were to play every minute so to speak?
No. That would only be the case if his team played 100 possessions in the game.

The definition of Pace at b-r.com. It is: Possessions per 48 minutes.
Earlier I said it was poss/Game.

LeBron's 2014 Pts/100 Poss would be :

100*Pts/(Min*Pace/48)
Min 2902
Pts 2089
Pace 91.2
Poss 5514
pts/100 = 37.89

If you assume all players for a team are getting the same possessions/minute -- that is, players don't tend to speed up or slow down their team's pace -- then they are giving rather an estimated Pts/100. They're really saying all minutes have the same avg number of possessions, for any lineup with a given team. But that's not quite precise.
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