Statistical Trivia

[rlee]

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/milw ... ats-022517

[rlee]

Mike G:

Westbrook: 41 pts; Cousins 31 tonight

Is that the record for combined points by players with uniform number zero in same game?

[rlee]

The Bulls have won 18 straight Thursday TNT games. They are 134-116 in non-TNT Thursday home games during that time span.

[rlee]

Vs. ATL last night, Kyrie & LBJ became the 1st pair of teammates to record at least 35 PTS & 8 ASTS in a non-OT game since 1966. (via Elias)

[Mike G]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc- ... 2938e67cd3

... the Wizards are now the first franchise in NBA history to start a season 2-8 or worse, and then reach 15 games over .500. They’re 39-24 now, a mark no 2-8 team has ever come close to reaching.

The Wizards, of course, are 37-16 since that dreadful start, which is tied for the third-best record in the league over that span...

[Mike G]

Before this season, just 5 players have posted a season with Usage >30 and ORtg >120.
Bird and Jordan first did it in 1988; MJ had 6 more such seasons. LeBron did it 4 times, Durant twice, Curry once.
This year, both Kawhi Leonard and Isaiah Thomas are headed to this elite territory.
http://bkref.com/tiny/iA7lr

[rlee]

Mike G:

Last night, the 27-39 Blazers, on the 2nd night of a road b2b, coming off a 20+ pt loss to NOP defeated 52-14 SAS despite having fewer rebounds, fewer assists and lower overall & 3-pt shooting %ages & depsite LMA's reutrn (32 minutes). Has any other team w/ 25 fewer wins on the 2nd nite of a road b2b, coming off a big loss to a likely lottery team, been outshot, out assisted & and outrebounded and still defeated a team whose 2nd best player was returning from injury?

[Mike G]

I wouldn't say the Spurs outshot the Blazers overall, because with a bunch of FT, Portland had the better overall TS%, .596 to .560. Then losing the rebound battle by 2 and winning turnovers by 3, they have to win.

Also no idea how (or why) to search for games with that many specific attributes. When you have enough qualifiers, every game will be unique.

[rlee]

Yes, the qualifications are like the 9th player since 1994 to have a 21-8-11-3-7-2-etc -etc line in a 2nd game of a road b2b.

And I should have not been so loose w "outshot"

[Mike G]

Just 3 players have averaged 25 points and 5.5 assists and failed to make the all-star team.

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per game:  tm   yr    mpg   TS%   Pts  Reb   Ast
Archibald Cin  1972  43.1  .572  28.2  2.9   9.2
M Adams   Den  1991  35.5  .530  26.5  3.9  10.5
Lillard   Por  2016  35.7  .560  25.1  4.0   6.8
Lillard   Por  2017  36.0  .580  26.5  4.9   5.7

http://bkref.com/tiny/LXZLu
Lillard was an all-star in his previous 2 seasons.
Most of his numbers are up in the interval.

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.years   PER   TS%  TRb%   Ast%   TO%    Usg%  WS/48  BPM
'14+15  19.7  .564   6.1   27.1   12.1   26.0  .165   3.9
'16+17  22.5  .569   6.8   31.1   11.7   31.3  .162   3.3

Must be the defensive side where he's lacking now; and the team has been worse.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... l_advanced

[Mike G]

More on Damian Lillard's all-star snubs the last 2 seasons. Here are guards with the most games above certain Game Score levels in these almost-two years:

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.t     GmSc:   20.  25.  30.  35. 40. 45
206  Harden    97   60   33   10   4   2
194  Westbrook 97   57   27   10   3   0
176  Curry     84   48   29   10   4   1
103  Lillard   57   25   12    6   2   1
95   Butler    51   25   11    5   2   1
92   Thomas    57   20   12    2   1   
84   Wall      54   19    8    2   1   
83   Kemba     47   22    9    4   1   
81   Lowry     47   25    5    3   1   
76   Paul      48   20    6    1   1   
74   DeRozan   50   20    4         
57   Kyrie     36   12    5    3   1   
53   Thompson  27   13    8    3   1   1

Lillard is top 4 or 5 at every level, a clear cut below the big 3, but at least as great as anyone else.
Of course, he's 4th in the West.
t is just the sum of the other columns.

. . .
Well this is fun enough. Here are all guards' GmSc totals (RS) since 1984:

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.t     GmSc:   20.   25.  30.  35.  40. 45
1589  Jordan   675   465  257  126  49  17
976   Kobe     536   272  112   40  11   5
697   Drexler  386   191   81   27  10   2
695   Iverson  381   199   81   26   6   2
664   Magic    368   182   84   26   4   0
650 * Wade     365   182   77   18   5   3
612   Stockton 396   156   47   11   2   0
611 * Paul     354   166   62   22   6   1
476 * Harden   237   133   69   26   9   2
463 * Carter   267   123   54   15   4   0
463 *Westbrook 258   132   50   16   6   1
448   Payton   296   113   30    7   2   0
448 * Curry    234   126   62   18   6   2
437   KJ       259   128   42    8   0   0
381   Reggie   251    97   29    4   0   0

* Active players
Magic the only one here whose career stretches from before '84
http://bkref.com/tiny/aN9KG
Jordan with almost half of the best games by any guard.

[Mike G]

And here are guards' playoff totals, # of games above 20 GmSc, above 25, etc.

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.t    GmSc:   20.  25.  30. 35. 40. 45
293  Jordan  130   84   48  22   7   2
152  Magic    90   42   15   5      
152  Kobe     90   41   15   4   2   
94   Wade     49   28   17         
81   Drexler  51   19    7   4      
68   KJ       37   18    8   3   2   
61   Iverson  26   16   11   5   2   1
60   Stockton 44   11    3   2      
59   Isiah    38   15    6         
59   Paul     32   18    6   3      
58   Reggie   36   18    4         
54  Westbrook 34   14    5   1      
51   Curry    28   16    6   1      
46   Nash     29   12    4   1      
43   Billups  30   11    1   1      
43   Allen    27    8    5   2   1   
42   Parker   31    7    3   1      
41   Porter   24   11    3   1   1   1
40   Kidd     31    8    1         
40   Harden   23   10    4   2   1   

The current Big 3 just fit within the modern top 20 (since 1983-84). Magic and Isiah are incomplete.

And all players' playoff totals.

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.t    GmSc:   20.  25.  30. 35. 40. 45
293  Jordan  130   84   48  22   7   2
250  LeBron  135   70   28  14   3   
184  Shaq     94   54   25   8   3   
176  Hakeem   89   52   22   9   3   1
152  Magic    90   42   15   5      
152  Kobe     90   41   15   4   2   
152  Duncan   91   41   14   5   1   
129  Bird     70   38   18   3      
128  Dirk     65   40   12   7   3   1
118  Barkley  52   30   19  11   3   3
116  Malone   71   32    9   3   1  
94   Wade     49   28   17         
85   Durant   46   29    9   1      
81   Drexler  51   19    7   4      
68   KJ       37   18    8   3   2   
68   Worthy   45   16    6   1      
64   Ewing    38   15    5   3   2   1
62   Robinson 38   18    5   1      
61   Iverson  26   16   11   5   2   1
61   Pippen   44   15    2         
61   McHale   42   17    2         
60   Stockton 44   11    3   2      

Jordan somehow dominant over LeBron at the upper end. Barkley over Mailman in super games.
The Bulls were 40-4 when Pippen had GmSc>20; when he's over 24, they're 20-0.
By contrast, the Sixers were 16-10 with Iverson >20; 10-0 when he hits 30.
http://bkref.com/tiny/uXy4G

[rlee]

Yesterday, the Kings came from 18 points behind with just over 5 minutes remaining to defeat the Clips at Staples, 98-97. Today, a major focus has been on the fact that this is the only come from behind win in the 360 games this season where a team trailed by18 points or more w 5 minutes left. While that, at 1st blush, is a staggering stat, it is also a bit misleading since many of those games invloved much larger deficits at the 5 minute mark and thus were not in the realm of a possible come from behind win. Much more interesting would be how many times a team trailing by ,say, 18-22 or so came back to win in that time frame. Let's exclude the games where a team trailed by more than that. Does anyone here have relatively easy access to that data or can at least suggest how to find it?

[Mike G]

Between 1995 and 2006, Shaquille O'Neal made 6 Finals in those 12 seasons, winning 4. Can we call this the Shaq Era?
Top Win Shares totals in the interval, and other stats, RS first:

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'95-'06  ws/48   WS    VORP   BPM   PER
Shaq     .228  135.1   57.7   6.0   28.3
Garnett  .188  127.7   69.9   6.5   23.8
Malone   .220  125.3   55.4   6.0   25.0
Payton   .162  119.8   53.2   4.0   20.3
Duncan   .223  117.2   52.1   6.2   25.1

Reggie   .178  105.2   37.8   3.3   18.1
Robinson .249   99.6   40.9   6.5   25.3
Dirk     .213   97.8   34.6   4.2   23.4
Kobe     .184   97.0   40.1   4.3   23.2
Stockton .214   96.6   30.8   3.6   22.1

Nobody's close to Shaq in PER, only DRob better in WS/48, and only Garnett better in BPM and VORP.

Obviously the totals are skewed by minutes, and most of these guys weren't playing all 12 of the years.
Here's the playoff composite:

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playoff  ws/48   WS    VORP   BPM   PER
Shaq     .194   30.1   14.7   5.8   26.8
Duncan   .223   22.3   11.6   7.6   26.4
Jordan   .250   14.7    6.7   7.4   26.9
Reggie   .171   14.7    6.2   3.9   19.1
Kobe     .139   14.1    6.7   3.5   20.5

Horry    .130   13.9    9.1   5.0   14.5
Dirk     .202   13.6    5.5   4.8   24.1
Robinson .203   13.2    6.4   6.2   22.9
Malone   .131   12.9    7.0   3.9   21.0
BWallace .167   12.8    6.9   5.5   16.9

Duncan's the only player with even half of Shaq's playoff WS and VORP.
Take Jordan from '87 to '98, or LeBron '06-17, and define other 'eras'. Duncan would also work.

[Mike G]

Most Win Shares in a postseason by a player over 30:

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WS  over 30   age   yr     G  mpg   Pts   Reb   Ast  ws48
4.8  Jordan   34   1998   21  42   32.4   5.1   3.5  .265
4.7  Kobe     30   2009   23  41   30.2   5.3   5.5  .238
4.7  LeBron   31   2016   21  39   26.3   9.5   7.6  .274
4.7  Jordan   32   1996   18  41   30.7   4.9   4.1  .306
4.3  LeBron   32   2017   18  41   32.8   9.1   7.8  .275

4.3  Hakeem   31   1994   23  43   28.9  11.0   4.3  .208
4.3  West     30   1969   18  42   30.9   3.9   7.5  .274
4.1  Garnett  31   2008   26  38   20.4  10.5   3.3  .199
3.9  Jordan   33   1997   19  42   31.1   7.9   4.8  .235
3.9  Shaq     31   2004   22  42   21.5  13.2   2.5  .202

Jordan 3-2 over LeBron.
http://bkref.com/tiny/QjhzU
Now VORP (since 1974)

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VORP over 30  age   yr     G  mpg   Pts   Reb   Ast   BPM
3.1  LeBron   31   2016   21  39   26.3   9.5   7.6  13.1
2.8  Hakeem   31   1994   23  43   28.9  11.0   4.3   9.1
2.7  LeBron   30   2015   20  42   30.1  11.3   8.5  11.0
2.5  LeBron   32   2017   18  41   32.8   9.1   7.8  11.5
2.2  Kobe     30   2009   23  41   30.2   5.3   5.5   7.5

2.2  Jordan   33   1997   19  42   31.1   7.9   4.8   8.7
2.1  Garnett  31   2008   26  38   20.4  10.5   3.3   6.4
2.1  Magic    31   1991   19  43   21.8   8.1  12.6   8.1
2.1  Pippen   30   1996   18  41   16.9   8.5   5.9   9.3
2.0  Bird     30   1987   23  44   27.0  10.0   7.2   5.8

Jordan's final fling and top WS year only makes 17th in the VORP list. BPM = 6.2

There's a very uneven history of over-30s making an impact in playoffs. The # with 1.0 or more VORP by year:

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74  1    90  1    06  1
75  1    91  1    07  4
76  1    92  0    08  6
77  0    93  2    09  3
78  3    94  6    10  5
79  3    95  3    11  3
80  1    96  4    12  3
81  1    97  9    13  1
82  1    98  4    14  3
83  1    99  1    15  2
84  1    00  3    16  4
85  1    01  1    17  2
86  0    02  2
87  1    03  1
88  3    04  1
89  0    05  5

With more than one appearance on the list:
4 - Hakeem, Pippen
3 - Kareem, LeBron, Jordan, K Malone
2 - Allen, Barkley, Billups, Bird, Kobe, Dandridge,
Drexler, Duncan, Erving, Garnett, Hornacek, Horry,
Kidd, Shaq, Pierce, Stockton, Unseld

Only a handful of the 100 were 35 or older:
37 - Kareem '85, Kidd '11, Duncan '14
36 - Kareem '84, Ginobili '14
35 - Stockton '98