Improved Players 2017-18

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shadow
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

Post by shadow »

Chriss was at +0.74 in overall vanilla RAPM as of 12/6. He was -4.49 last year.

Z-scores made more sense because the range of the ratings at this point in the season is a fair amount smaller than it is at the end of a season when there's more data. For instance, Curry is first as of 12/6 at +3.78, whereas LeBron was first last year at +8.28.
Mike G
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

Post by Mike G »

shadow wrote:Here are the top 20 most improved players in vanilla RAPM. The improvement is in terms of how much higher their RAPM z-score is this year compared to last year.

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Player             Improvement
Kyle Korver              3.71
Dwight Powell            3.55
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Only about half of these seem to be in agreement with their boxscore stats' differences.
In some cases, RPM joins in with the non-concurrence.
Denzel Valentine appears as one of the most unimproved, z-score difference of -2.80; here are some other rates, last year and this year:

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. yr   mpg   TS%   PER   WS48   BPM   e484   RPM
1617   17   .490   7.3   .031  -2.8   .20   -2.2
1718   29   .501  10.9   .041  -1.3   .69   -1.5

impr   12   .011   3.6   .010   1.5   .49     .7
Improvement line is simply this year minus last year.
About 1/3 of the total sample is pretty weird when you look at other summary stats. Showing just the changes from last season:

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z+     improvements  tm   mpg   TS%   PER   WS/48   BPM  e484   RPM
-3.18   LeBron James Cle   -1   .051   4.2   .057   2.7   .07  -1.3
-2.80   D Valentine  Chi   12   .011   3.6   .010   1.5   .49    .7
-2.76   Kevin Love   Cle   -2   .043   3.1   .052   0.6   .11  -2.5
-2.64  Dragan Bender Phx    7   .065   1.7   .032   1.4   .09   -.4
-2.43   Gorgui Dieng Min  -15   .027   2.2   .023  -0.9   .20  -5.0
-2.08   Joe Ingles   Uta    6   .014   1.6   .003   0.0   .34    .1

z+    improvements   tm   mpg   TS%   PER   WS/48   BPM  e484   RPM
1.99   Yogi Ferrell  Dal    2   .016  -3.5  -.020  -0.8  -.48   2.3
2.08   Dwyane Wade   Cle   -6   .008  -1.6  -.006  -2.0  -.35    .8
3.13 Marquese Chriss Phx   -1  -.023  -1.3   .001   0.6  -.12   2.4
3.55   Dwight Powell Dal    0  -.038  -2.0  -.033   0.0   .01   3.2
Okafor and Brussino are omitted, as they have vast z-score gain based on regression toward zero (in 25 and 10 minutes respectively)?
These numbers are a couple days old. The LeBron-Love-Wade dynamic is interesting for sure.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

Post by Mike G »

Team by team, players above .30 eWins improvement or below -.30
Several teams in the East are stacked with improved players. This year on the left, last year on the right.

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eW+        Atl        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.87   Isaiah Taylor  .479   10.6   3.6   4.5    .48  Hou .188    1.0   1.9   2.2   -.59
.72 Taurean W-Prince .539   13.8   6.4   2.8    .73      .503   11.0   5.6   1.9    .38
.61   Kent Bazemore  .529   14.8   6.1   4.6   1.04      .497   14.0   4.4   3.3    .72
                                    
eW+        Bos        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.13  Jaylen Brown   .557   17.7   6.8   1.5   1.00      .531   12.2   5.9   1.8    .45
.51   Terry Rozier   .478   12.6   6.6   3.3   .88       .462    9.4   6.2   3.7    .58
.43   Kyrie Irving   .596   30.9   3.4   6.0   2.17  Cle .573   26.5   3.4   6.5   1.98
.42   Marcus Morris  .517   18.4   8.4   2.5   1.30  Det .503   15.5   5.3   2.1    .78
.38   Aron Baynes    .520   12.0  10.4   1.8    .87  Det .560   10.9   9.7    .8    .58
.37   Al Horford     .597   17.0   9.0   6.7   1.68      .548   15.2   8.0   6.2   1.51
                                    
eW+        Brk        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.49  S Dinwiddie    .524   15.8   4.4   9.0   1.46      .566   10.6   4.2   4.7    .56
.67  DeMarre Carroll .536   15.0   8.4   2.3   1.03  Tor .525   12.8   5.7   1.5    .63
.61   R H-Jefferson  .562   18.2   7.9   2.8   1.31      .505   12.2   9.2   3.1    .93
.40 D'Angelo Russell .531   25.9   6.0   7.9   1.78  LAL .512   18.4   4.6   5.6   1.20
.39   Joe Harris     .577   13.4   3.8   2.3    .51      .554   11.7   4.4   1.6    .25
.38   Caris LeVert   .515   14.0   4.7   5.2    .85      .549   12.3   5.3   3.1    .62
.35   Allen Crabbe   .532   13.7   5.0   1.9    .58  Por .596   12.8   3.5   1.4    .36
-.35   Quincy Acy    .469    8.4   7.2   1.1    .15      .555   12.0   6.8   1.1    .52
                                    
eW+        Cha        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
-.46   Dwight Howard .537   19.0  15.1   1.6   1.55  Atl .607   17.4  16.0   1.8   1.79
-.66   Kemba Walker  .543   22.4   3.7   5.9   1.55      .562   24.4   4.2   6.0   1.85
-.69   Nicolas Batum .497   11.5   5.0   5.9    .75      .522   15.7   6.8   6.6   1.35
                                    
eW+        Chi        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.52  Kris Dunn      .492   15.7   6.1   6.6   1.19  Min .428    6.4   4.6   4.7    .23
.95 Denzel Valentine .517   11.3   6.5   3.4    .72      .490    9.4   5.2   2.1    .20
.54   David Nwaba    .597   11.7   7.6   2.2    .86  LAL .597    9.9   5.4   1.1    .27
.53   Bobby Portis   .566   20.1  10.9   2.3   1.55      .540   14.7  10.1   1.2   1.00
.43   Nikola Mirotic .644   26.2  10.3    .9   1.98      .540   15.1   7.9   1.5    .97
.35   Jerian Grant   .529   13.1   3.8   6.8    .94      .548   13.0   3.8   4.1    .71
                                    
eW+        Cle        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.87   Jeff Green     .594   16.6   5.8   2.5    .99  Orl .497   12.9   4.8   1.6    .41
-.67   Dwyane Wade   .507   15.7   5.6   6.4   1.18  Chi .500   22.1   5.5   4.7   1.64
-1.16  Jae Crowder   .527   11.2   4.4   1.6    .34  Bos .603   15.3   6.8   2.6    .99
                                    
eW+        Dal        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
-.55   Yogi Ferrell  .559   12.8   4.1   2.8    .52      .527   14.1   3.6   5.0    .79
-.63 Wesley Matthews .523   12.3   3.3   2.8    .43      .526   14.5   4.1   3.0    .69
-.72   Dirk Nowitzki .558   16.9   8.1   2.5   1.21      .524   19.9   9.9   2.1   1.62
                                    
eW+        Den        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.71   Jamal Murray   .550   19.4   4.2   3.3   1.00      .514   13.8   4.3   3.3    .61
.52   Trey Lyles     .628   17.3   8.6   1.9   1.22  Uta .460   12.8   7.3   2.2    .67
.37   Will Barton    .554   16.7   6.2   4.1   1.17      .538   15.2   5.5   4.3    .99
-.40   Mason Plumlee .531   12.0  10.5   3.6   1.13      .545   13.8  10.6   5.0   1.44
-.44   Nikola Jokic  .602   20.1  13.4   5.6   2.12      .629   21.6  13.1   6.6   2.41
-.82 Wilson Chandler .518   11.0   6.5   2.8    .55      .539   16.0   7.6   2.4   1.01
                                    
eW+        Det        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.45   L Galloway     .562   16.2   4.6   1.8    .88  Sac .507   12.1   3.5   2.0    .36
.45  Stanley Johnson .476    9.4   4.9   1.9    .35      .433    7.7   4.7   2.4    .08
.44   Eric Moreland  .500    4.2  11.4   2.5    .68  Sac .500    4.6   6.7    .6    .00
.33   A Tolliver     .618   14.3   4.9   1.9    .65  Sac .588   10.5   6.0   1.7    .37
-.71   Avery Bradley .521   18.2   2.9   2.3    .67  Bos .544   16.6   6.9   2.7   1.07
                                    
eW+        GSW        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.01   Omri Casspi   .658   15.2  10.2   2.8   1.36  Min .518    9.1   6.3   1.9    .29
.56   David West     .646   18.2   9.0   5.3   1.88      .564   12.0   8.0   6.6   1.19
-.45  Andre Iguodala .516    7.0   5.3   4.7    .46      .616    9.8   5.3   5.0    .76
-1.03  Kevin Durant  .612   27.1   7.7   6.2   2.21      .638   28.2   9.2   5.9   2.74
                                    
eW+        Hou        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.08  Clint Capela   .679   21.4  17.3   2.3   2.44      .628   18.9  12.7   1.8   1.71
.38   Eric Gordon    .573   21.7   2.4   2.9    .97      .552   16.7   3.1   3.2    .77
                                    
eW+        Ind        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.91  Victor Oladipo .586   26.6   5.9   4.0   1.83  OkC .529   17.2   4.9   3.0    .97
1.69  D Sabonis      .585   18.1  12.4   2.9   1.44  OkC .466    9.8   6.7   1.9    .31
.57 Lance Stephenson .507   12.4   8.4   4.5    .93      .482   10.6   5.0   5.6    .54
.52  Darren Collison .578   14.9   3.9   7.0   1.19  Sac .563   15.8   2.9   5.4    .93
-.49   Cory Joseph   .527   10.4   3.8   4.0    .52  Tor .512   13.6   4.3   5.0    .82
                                    
eW+        LAC        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.32    M Harrell     .635   20.8   9.2   2.0   1.68  Hou .650   17.0   7.2   2.4   1.15
-.51  DeAndre Jordan .636   13.1  17.2   1.3   1.56      .652   15.8  16.5   1.5   1.81
-.53   Blake Griffin .531   23.6   8.1   5.0   1.76      .557   23.6   9.1   5.7   2.14
                                    
eW+        LAL        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.19  Brandon Ingram .503   15.4   5.6   3.2    .81      .467   10.0   5.0   2.4    .26
.63  Jordan Clarkson .534   20.7   4.2   4.6   1.14      .522   16.1   3.6   2.9    .68
.48   Larry Nance    .586   13.7  10.8   2.1   1.32      .560   10.1   8.9   2.1    .77
-.42   Brook Lopez   .526   19.6   6.9   2.7   1.28  Brk .568   23.8   6.6   2.9   1.61
                                    
eW+        Mem        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.78   Tyreke Evans   .563   22.6   6.2   4.7   1.63  Sac .494   16.8   6.1   5.2   1.23
.51 Chandler Parsons .603   16.6   5.2   3.4    .96      .431   10.7   4.9   3.2    .47
.33  Andrew Harrison .529   12.8   4.0   4.3    .66      .465    9.8   3.4   4.8    .35
-.64   Mike Conley   .510   20.1   2.8   4.5   1.18      .593   25.0   4.1   7.0   2.02
-.73  Mario Chalmers .455   10.8   4.6   4.8    .59      .548   15.6   4.0   5.4   1.08
-.78   Marc Gasol    .518   19.6   9.6   4.0   1.50      .545   22.1   7.1   5.1   1.84
                                    
eW+        Mia        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.35  Justise Winslow .486   10.1   9.1   3.1    .79      .394   10.0   5.6   3.9    .52
-.65   Tyler Johnson .536   13.6   4.7   2.6    .66      .527   16.1   4.7   3.6   1.03
-.86   Goran Dragic  .533   19.7   4.9   5.1   1.23      .565   23.7   4.2   6.2   1.69
-.95   Dion Waiters  .483   16.6   3.2   4.5    .76      .501   19.4   4.2   5.3   1.27
                                    
eW+        Mil        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.57  Khris Middleton .572   20.1   5.4   4.4   1.32      .562   17.4   5.4   4.0   1.07
.49   Giannis A      .597   28.9  10.7   4.3   2.57      .586   24.1   9.7   5.4   2.35
-.46   Eric Bledsoe  .538   20.5   4.8   4.9   1.37  Phx .550   22.7   5.4   6.4   1.71
-.58   Thon Maker    .477    7.2   7.4   1.5    .38      .550   14.0   8.0   1.5    .88
                                    
eW+        Min        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.32  Nemanja Bjelica .719   17.4   6.9   1.7   1.08      .521   10.5   7.4   2.2    .51
.31   Jamal Crawford .530   18.0   2.2   4.5    .85  LAC .519   15.5   2.1   3.6    .59
-1.04  Karl-A Towns  .611   21.1  12.7   2.0   1.84      .609   25.0  13.0   2.6   2.28
-1.04 Andrew Wiggins .488   16.1   4.2   1.7    .71      .525   21.5   4.2   2.2   1.13
-1.11  Jeff Teague   .544   14.5   3.1   7.7    .99  Ind .562   17.7   4.8   8.5   1.55
-1.31  Jimmy Butler  .554   19.5   5.8   4.6   1.48  Chi .571   24.6   6.1   5.0   2.05
                                    
eW+        NOP        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
-.43   Jameer Nelson .535    7.3   3.8   6.0    .33  Den .541   10.9   3.4   6.9    .63
-.45   Ian Clark     .453    8.7   3.1   2.9    .11  GSW .570   14.7   3.6   3.0    .65
-.74   Anthony Davis .630   25.0  11.1   2.4   2.14      .567   28.0  11.7   2.0   2.52
-.82   Jrue Holiday  .566   16.5   4.4   5.4   1.03      .526   16.7   4.3   8.0   1.37
-1.32   D Cousins    .570   24.8  12.8   5.0   2.08      .549   28.4  12.4   4.6   2.65
                                    
eW+        NYK        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.64  Jarrett Jack   .487    9.4   5.3   8.3    .80  NOP .750    7.1   0.0   4.9   -.21
.95   Kr Porzingis   .547   27.8   8.1   1.4   1.87      .538   19.2   8.0   1.5   1.31
.81   Courtney Lee   .571   15.3   4.4   3.1    .86      .554   11.9   3.9   2.5    .48
.33   Enes Kanter    .633   20.6  15.4   2.0   1.97  OkC .587   23.7  10.9   1.5   1.76
                                    
eW+        OkC        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.83   Jerami Grant   .573   14.1   6.3   1.4    .82      .544    9.3   4.7   1.0    .20
.71   Steven Adams   .638   17.4  10.7   1.1   1.37      .577   14.2   9.7   1.4    .97
.48   Raymond Felton .500   14.7   3.7   5.3    .96  LAC .493   10.3   4.6   4.2    .52
-.63 Carmelo Anthony .498   19.4   7.3   1.7   1.19  NYK .528   22.8   6.3   2.8   1.49
-1.05  Paul George   .526   20.0   5.8   3.1   1.28  Ind .578   24.6   6.9   3.3   1.74
-2.71  R Westbrook   .490   24.3  10.1  10.1   2.42      .542   34.1  11.5  10.4   3.55
                                    
eW+        Orl        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.89   Aaron Gordon   .597   18.8   8.6   2.2   1.39      .523   15.0   6.5   2.2    .89
.59 Jonathon Simmons .550   17.7   4.7   2.6    .76  SAS .496   11.9   4.1   3.3    .47
.33   Evan Fournier  .590   19.6   3.6   3.2   1.02      .546   18.3   3.5   3.0    .83
.30   Mario Hezonja  .555   12.2   6.3   2.0    .57      .448    9.5   5.2   2.0    .17
-.31   Elfrid Payton .533   13.7   4.7   7.9   1.07      .514   14.9   5.9   7.4   1.30
-.36   M Speights    .491   16.4   5.8   1.6    .76  LAC .577   18.7  10.1   1.8   1.35
                                    
eW+        Phl        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
-.33   J.J. Redick   .569   16.6   2.8   3.7    .75  LAC .592   20.0   3.0   2.0    .92
                                    
eW+        Phx        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.71   T.J. Warren    .520   20.1   6.4   1.5   1.18      .534   15.5   6.1   1.3    .86
.69   Devin Booker   .564   24.9   4.7   4.1   1.43      .523   21.5   3.3   3.4   1.03
.56   Alex Len       .583   13.7  14.4   2.0   1.37      .541   13.1  11.7   1.0    .95
-.56   Tyler Ulis    .459   10.8   2.8   5.9    .41      .470   12.3   3.0   6.7    .76
                                    
eW+        Por        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.64   Ed Davis       .540   10.6  14.1    .8   1.04      .548    8.5  11.0   1.2    .49
.37   Shabazz Napier .598   18.2   3.8   3.0   1.11      .525   13.8   4.1   4.4    .73
.34   Noah Vonleh    .554    9.1  13.0   1.1    .90      .516    8.7  11.3    .9    .51
.33   Meyers Leonard .684   21.4   9.1   1.9   1.65      .504   10.3   6.8   2.0    .44
-.36   Evan Turner   .486   10.9   5.1   3.2    .43      .486   11.4   5.3   4.4    .64
-.37   M Harkless    .478    8.2   5.2   1.1    .26      .563   12.4   5.8   1.5    .58
-.45  Damian Lillard .555   27.3   5.1   6.0   1.94      .575   27.8   5.1   5.8   2.13
-.67   C.J. McCollum .543   22.4   4.0   2.9   1.25      .578   24.2   3.9   3.8   1.53
                                    
eW+        Sac        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.40   Buddy Hield    .553   19.1   6.0   2.0   1.03      .537   15.9   5.3   2.3    .73
-1.23  George Hill   .595   15.1   4.6   3.1    .78  Uta .589   22.8   4.2   5.1   1.62
                                    
eW+        SAS        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.85   L Aldridge     .552   25.6   9.5   2.2   1.94      .525   20.0   8.6   2.4   1.56
.72   Kyle Anderson  .558   12.5   8.2   4.1   1.15      .518    8.5   7.3   3.3    .64
.45  Dejounte Murray .459   12.6   9.5   5.0   1.05      .496   14.3   4.7   5.5    .69
-.30   Manu Ginobili .515   14.6   4.0   4.1    .63      .525   14.1   4.3   5.1    .89
-.41   Patty Mills   .557   14.9   3.2   4.3    .77      .573   16.2   2.9   5.8   1.02
                                    
eW+        Tor        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.81   Jakob Poeltl   .661   15.4   9.8    .9   1.18      .575    9.6   9.3    .7    .41
.62   Pascal Siakam  .492   10.9   8.9   3.6   1.02      .518    9.9   8.3    .8    .50
-.48   Kyle Lowry    .594   18.8   7.4   8.7   1.79      .611   25.0   4.9   6.9   2.03
-.55   DeMar DeRozan .574   27.4   4.9   5.9   2.00      .541   30.4   5.6   4.3   2.26
                                    
eW+        Uta        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
.72   Jonas Jerebko  .600   13.9   8.6   1.7   1.02  Bos .533    7.5   7.7   2.1    .31
.54   Alec Burks     .542   18.6   6.5   2.2   1.15      .493   15.0   6.6   1.6    .73
.53  Thabo Sefolosha .603   14.0   7.0   1.5    .95  Atl .513    9.5   6.2   2.4    .55
.49   Joe Ingles     .604   13.3   5.4   5.2    .92      .599   12.0   5.0   4.2    .69
-.53   Rudy Gobert   .619   15.2  12.4   1.5   1.41      .660   18.2  14.7   1.4   1.89
-.54   Ricky Rubio   .511   15.1   5.1   6.2    .93  Min .527   11.9   4.9   9.7   1.21
                                    
eW+        Was        Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484
1.02  Mike Scott     .650   18.8   6.7   1.6   1.03  Atl .363    6.0   6.4   2.9    .15
.97   Kelly Oubre    .528   13.9   6.6   1.3    .74      .510    9.5   5.8   1.0    .22
.60   T Satoransky   .558   11.0   5.3   5.2    .82      .474    6.5   4.0   4.2    .10
.44   Otto Porter    .585   17.1   7.9   2.1   1.32      .623   15.0   7.6   1.7   1.08
-.54   John Wall     .499   20.6   4.2   9.4   1.74      .532   22.5   4.4  10.4   2.12
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

Post by Mike G »

Looking up this year's numbers at b-r.com and espn -- then converting to "wins" added in this year's minutes, relative to last year's rates -- here's how my bottom 12 rank, by average of these 4:

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wins   degraded   PER  WS/48  BPM   RPM      PER   WS/48  BPM   RPM
-1.99  Westbrook 23.7  .160   8.0   4.9      30.7  .224  15.5   6.0
-1.35  Crowder   10.1  .059  -2.2  -2.3      15.0  .137   1.5   3.7
-1.24  J Butler  21.8  .172   3.5   4.7      25.2  .236   6.9   7.1
-1.16  G Hill    14.1  .080   -.4   -.7      19.4  .182   3.6   3.2
-.98   Durant    24.9  .204   5.3   3.4      27.7  .278   8.0   5.6
-.93   Teague    15.0  .078   -.5    .6      19.2  .147   1.9   1.5
-.92   Waiters   11.0  .003  -3.9  -2.2      14.6  .056   -.9    .0
Towns, Wiggins, Cousins, and George all show small improvements in RPM; the other stats concur with eWins that they've dropped off.
For Westbrook, it's BPM that has fallen most sharply. For Crowder, it's RPM. With Hill, Durant, and Teague, it's Win Shares.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

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At 49% thru the season:

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eW+     per36 rates    tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484  '17: Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
2.38   Victor Oladipo Ind  .595   27.0   5.9   4.2   1.93  OkC .529   17.2   4.9   3.0   .97
2.19 Domantas Sabonis Ind  .581   17.9  12.0   3.0   1.45  OkC .466    9.8   6.7   1.9   .31
2.14   Kris Dunn      Chi  .489   16.1   5.8   7.4   1.22  Min .428    6.4   4.6   4.7   .23
2.11   S Dinwiddie    Brk  .539   17.0   3.9   8.7   1.50      .566   10.6   4.2   4.7   .56
1.55   L Aldridge     SAS  .553   26.4   9.8   2.2   2.11      .525   20.0   8.6   2.4  1.56

1.50   Tyreke Evans   Mem  .571   23.8   6.3   5.4   1.85  Sac .494   16.8   6.1   5.2  1.23
1.42   Brandon Ingram LAL  .512   15.8   5.7   3.3    .78      .467   10.0   5.0   2.4   .26
1.35   Jaylen Brown   Bos  .543   17.6   6.8   1.6   1.00      .531   12.2   5.9   1.8   .45
1.28   Kelly Oubre    Was  .549   14.8   6.4   1.5    .79      .510    9.5   5.8   1.0   .22
1.28 Denzel Valentine Chi  .528   11.5   6.8   3.5    .72      .490    9.4   5.2   2.1   .20

eW+     per36 rates    tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
1.26   Jamal Murray   Den  .558   20.3   4.7   3.5   1.13      .514   13.8   4.3   3.3   .61
1.19   K Porzingis    NYK  .529   26.5   8.0   1.3   1.83      .538   19.2   8.0   1.5  1.31
1.18   Clint Capela   Hou  .659   21.1  17.0   2.2   2.35      .628   18.9  12.7   1.8  1.71
1.16   Aaron Gordon   Orl  .580   19.8   8.8   2.0   1.41      .523   15.0   6.5   2.2   .89
1.15   T.J. Warren    Phx  .530   21.1   6.4   1.6   1.28      .534   15.5   6.1   1.3   .86

1.09 Taurean W-Prince Atl  .540   14.5   7.0   2.9    .81      .503   11.0   5.6   1.9   .38
1.02   Mike Scott     Was  .656   18.1   6.1   1.4    .87  Atl .363    6.0   6.4   2.9   .15
1.01   Omri Casspi    GSW  .661   14.5   9.6   2.7   1.17  Min .518    9.1   6.3   1.9   .29
1.00   Devin Booker   Phx  .565   25.6   4.6   4.3   1.47      .523   21.5   3.3   3.4  1.03
.94    R H-Jefferson  Brk  .540   18.2   8.7   2.8   1.37      .505   12.2   9.2   3.1   .93
.94    Steven Adams   OkC  .640   17.4  10.5   1.2   1.36      .577   14.2   9.7   1.4   .97
Going off this list, the following players also have substantial gains in PER, WS/48 and BPM.
Scaling them to wins added (as with eWins+ above) and averaging the 4:

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xyz+    improved     tm   PER   WS/48   BPM     PER   WS/48   BPM
3.00 Victor Oladipo Ind   24.5   .171   5.0     13.6   .086  -1.4
2.46   Tyreke Evans Mem   22.8   .164   4.7     15.5   .046   -.9
2.40   D Sabonis    Ind   19.3   .140    .4      6.9   .022  -4.9
1.71   Mike Scott   Was   16.0   .126   -.2      6.0  -.009  -5.1
1.59   S Dinwiddie  Brk   18.1   .164   2.4     12.7   .101   -.9

1.51   L Aldridge   SAS   24.4   .210   2.5     18.7   .149   1.1
1.40   Kris Dunn    Chi   15.3   .032    .5      8.1   .004  -2.2
1.39   Steven Adams OkC   21.5   .209   3.5     16.5   .129    .5
1.39   Devin Booker Phx   19.0   .096    .8     14.6   .035  -2.3
1.33   Jaylen Brown Bos   13.3   .106    .0     10.3   .053  -4.0

xyz     improved     tm   PER   WS/48   BPM     PER   WS/48   BPM
1.31   Jamal Murray Den   16.3   .105   -.3     12.0   .038  -2.5
1.20   Omri Casspi  GSW   17.1   .177    .4     10.0   .037  -3.0
1.16 Brandon Ingram LAL   12.4   .044  -2.4      8.6  -.007  -4.0
1.15   Clint Capela Hou   25.9   .247   3.5     21.5   .185   1.0
1.09   Aaron Gordon Orl   19.1   .123   1.3     14.5   .076   -.7

1.06   Kelly Oubre  Was   13.2   .111   -.1      9.1   .062  -2.3
1.02   D Valentine  Chi   11.7   .066   -.3      7.3   .031  -2.8
1.01  R H-Jefferson Brk   17.8   .133    .5     13.7   .070  -1.0
BPM loves Oladipo, Tyreke, Scott, Booker, Brown, and Capela, relative to last year.
Win Shares says Adams, Murray, Casspi, and RHJ are hot.
PER is highest on Sabonis and Aldridge.
eWins recognizes Dinwiddie, Dunn, Oubre, Valentine.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

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Don't hear Valentine discussed. Very poor start iirc. RPM of better than -1 is not bad for a 2nd yr guy.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

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With the season at 76%, only 6 others with even half as much bonus eWins as either of the OK -> Ind guys.

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eW+   per36 rates   tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
3.55   V Oladipo   Ind  .573   25.6   5.9   4.4   1.86  OkC .529   17.2   4.9   3.0   .97
3.47   D Sabonis   Ind  .566   17.0  12.0   3.0   1.41  OkC .466    9.8   6.7   1.9   .31
2.83   S Dinwiddie Brk  .519   15.1   4.1   8.5   1.32      .566   10.6   4.2   4.7   .56
2.70   B Ingram    LAL  .525   16.2   5.7   4.0    .94      .467   10.0   5.0   2.4   .26
2.51   Kris Dunn   Chi  .476   14.8   5.6   7.1   1.13  Min .428    6.4   4.6   4.7   .23

2.02   D Valentine Chi  .517   11.6   6.9   3.8    .77      .490    9.4   5.2   2.1   .20
1.89  T Satoransky Was  .622   11.9   4.9   6.4    .96      .474    6.5   4.0   4.2   .10
1.84  Jaylen Brown Bos  .541   16.9   6.3   2.1    .94      .531   12.2   5.9   1.8   .45
1.68   Kelly Oubre Was  .543   14.0   6.1   1.5    .68      .510    9.5   5.8   1.0   .22
1.63   L Aldridge  SAS  .556   25.2   9.2   2.3   1.97      .525   20.0   8.6   2.4  1.56

eW+   per36 rates   tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
1.62  Jamal Murray Den  .577   18.8   4.5   3.8   1.03      .514   13.8   4.3   3.3   .61
1.61  Terry Rozier Bos  .516   14.8   6.5   3.8   1.09      .462    9.4   6.2   3.7   .58
1.59  Clint Capela Hou  .647   20.5  15.9   1.7   2.22      .628   18.9  12.7   1.8  1.71
1.55  Jerami Grant OkC  .563   13.4   7.1   1.3    .78      .544    9.3   4.7   1.0   .20
1.54  Tyreke Evans Mem  .554   22.3   6.3   5.8   1.72  Sac .494   16.8   6.1   5.2  1.23

1.49   Trey Lyles  Den  .588   17.3   9.0   2.2   1.29  Uta .460   12.8   7.3   2.2   .67
1.48   Ed Davis    Por  .601   10.9  13.6    .9   1.11      .548    8.5  11.0   1.2   .49
1.46   D Murray    SAS  .474   13.3  10.1   5.4   1.27      .496   14.3   4.7   5.5   .69
1.44   M Hezonja   Orl  .559   14.6   6.2   2.1    .81      .448    9.5   5.2   2.0   .17
1.39  L Stephenson Ind  .501   13.5   8.4   4.6   1.00      .482   10.6   5.0   5.6   .54
1.39  Steven Adams OkC  .624   16.4  10.6   1.2   1.32      .577   14.2   9.7   1.4   .97
8 of the top 9 in the East, and 3 of those came from the West.
Hard to find anyone with big improvement going east to west. Jerebko (Bos to Utah) ranks 45th. Sefolosha (Atl to Utah) is 70th.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

Post by Crow »

Most improved is year over year and obviously some were horrible last season.

It would be a different list but it would also interesting to know who improved most compared to and over position average for x years experience or age.

If you improved a lot but are still below average for your age / experience that should imo temper the excitement about the accomplishment, some.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

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Obviously some would never give the MIP award to either a below avg player nor to a superstar who was already a star.
The one change that makes sense to me is to compare the current season to a player's best previous season ever; thus negating those guys bouncing back from one terrible season.

However, as long as the words "most improved" are used, I'll just take them literally. Biggest per-minute improvement times minutes, basically.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

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At 86% of the season; this season on the left, last year on the right:

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eW+     per36     tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484      Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
3.92   Oladipo   Ind  .562   25.2   5.9   4.3   1.82     .529   17.2   4.9   3.0   .97
3.57   Sabonis   Ind  .559   16.7  11.7   2.9   1.37     .466    9.8   6.7   1.9   .31
3.06   Dinwiddie Brk  .516   14.5   4.1   8.5   1.29     .566   10.6   4.2   4.7   .56
2.85   Dunn      Chi  .483   14.9   5.3   7.0   1.13     .428    6.4   4.6   4.7   .23
2.78   Ingram    LAL  .525   16.2   5.7   4.1    .96     .467   10.0   5.0   2.4   .26

2.47   Valentine Chi  .526   11.9   6.9   3.9    .82     .490    9.4   5.2   2.1   .20
2.33  Satoransky Was  .620   11.9   4.9   6.4    .97     .474    6.5   4.0   4.2   .10
2.10   Aldridge  SAS  .555   25.5   9.4   2.3   2.03     .525   20.0   8.6   2.4  1.56
1.98   J Brown   Bos  .545   17.1   6.3   2.1    .96     .531   12.2   5.9   1.8   .45
1.95   J Murray  Den  .575   18.6   4.6   3.8   1.05     .514   13.8   4.3   3.3   .61

eW+     per36     tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484      Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
1.88   Rozier    Bos  .517   14.9   6.3   3.9   1.09     .462    9.4   6.2   3.7   .58
1.86   Grant     OkC  .576   13.6   7.0   1.3    .81     .544    9.3   4.7   1.0   .20
1.77   Oubre     Was  .543   13.9   6.0   1.4    .67     .510    9.5   5.8   1.0   .22
1.76   D Murray  SAS  .478   13.5  10.0   5.1   1.28     .496   14.3   4.7   5.5   .69
1.70   Carroll   Brk  .546   15.2   8.2   2.5   1.04     .525   12.8   5.7   1.5   .63

1.68   Adams     OkC  .624   16.4  10.5   1.3   1.34     .577   14.2   9.7   1.4   .97
1.59   Davis     Por  .602   10.3  13.7   1.0   1.06     .548    8.5  11.0   1.2   .49
1.59  Wa.-Prince Atl  .538   14.8   6.2   2.8    .74     .503   11.0   5.6   1.9   .38
1.59   Capela    Hou  .638   19.5  15.7   1.6   2.14     .628   18.9  12.7   1.8  1.71
1.57   T Evans   Mem  .552   22.0   6.2   5.7   1.71     .494   16.8   6.1   5.2  1.23
1.57   Hezonja   Orl  .538   14.0   6.1   2.0    .75     .448    9.5   5.2   2.0   .17
In addition to the improvements seen above, Oladipo has doubled last year's steals and blocks rates.
DeJounte Murray is a 6-5 PG whose only improvement is to double his rebound rates. On the Spurs he's 2nd in both DReb% (to Gasol) and OReb% (Aldridge), among their top 12. Oh, he's doubled his stealing rate and cut turnovers also.

Best rebounding guards (700+ min.)

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TRb%    guards   tm   ORb%   DRb%
14.9   D Murray  SAS   7.4   22.5
14.9   Westbrook OKC   5.5   25.0
10.7   Ball      LAL   4.0   17.5
10.5   Nwaba     Chi   5.4   16.1
10.4   Valentine Chi   2.5   18.8

10.2   Burks     Uta   2.0   18.3
10.0   Paul      Hou   2.4   17.4
9.9    Rozier    Bos   3.5   16.0
9.7    Lowry     Tor   3.2   16.0
9.5    Wade   Cle-Mia  4.1   14.8

6.3    median    NBA   2.0   10.7
Just 2 dozen guards (not G-F) get even half the rebounds that the top 2 get.
Just 9 get half the OReb Murray gets.
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Re: Improved Players 2017-18

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Final rankings. Estimated additional wins added in this year's minutes, over the same minutes at last year's rates.

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eW+     per36 rates   tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
4.62  Victor Oladipo Ind  .568   25.0   5.9   4.5   1.84  OkC .529   17.2   4.9   3.0   .97
3.94   D Sabonis     Ind  .557   16.5  11.5   2.9   1.36  OkC .466    9.8   6.7   1.9   .31
3.23   S Dinwiddie   Brk  .518   14.2   4.0   8.4   1.24      .566   10.6   4.2   4.7   .56
2.92  Brandon Ingram LAL  .526   16.2   5.8   4.2    .98      .467   10.0   5.0   2.4   .26
2.85   T Satoransky  Was  .606   11.1   5.3   6.3    .94      .474    6.5   4.0   4.2   .10

2.83   L Aldridge    SAS  .561   26.0   9.6   2.3   2.10      .525   20.0   8.6   2.4  1.56
2.79   Kris Dunn     Chi  .483   14.8   5.3   7.0   1.11  Min .428    6.4   4.6   4.7   .23
2.52   D Valentine   Chi  .524   11.9   6.7   3.8    .78      .490    9.4   5.2   2.1   .20
2.36   Jaylen Brown  Bos  .553   17.7   6.1   2.1    .98      .531   12.2   5.9   1.8   .45
2.31   Joe Ingles    Uta  .619   14.3   5.2   6.1   1.12      .599   12.0   5.0   4.2   .69

eW+     per36 rates   tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
2.27   Jamal Murray  Den  .569   18.2   4.5   4.0   1.04      .514   13.8   4.3   3.3   .61
2.27   Terry Rozier  Bos  .515   14.8   6.4   4.1   1.11      .462    9.4   6.2   3.7   .58
2.24   T W-Prince    Atl  .544   15.8   6.0   3.0    .82      .503   11.0   5.6   1.9   .38
2.21   Jerami Grant  OkC  .592   14.0   6.7   1.2    .85      .544    9.3   4.7   1.0   .20
2.19 Dejounte Murray SAS  .479   13.3  10.0   5.0   1.30      .496   14.3   4.7   5.5   .69

2.04   Mario Hezonja Orl  .539   14.1   6.1   2.2    .77      .448    9.5   5.2   2.0   .17
2.01   Clint Capela  Hou  .638   19.5  15.5   1.6   2.19      .628   18.9  12.7   1.8  1.71
1.96   Steven Adams  OkC  .617   16.2  10.6   1.4   1.35      .577   14.2   9.7   1.4   .97
1.86   Kelly Oubre   Was  .526   13.4   5.9   1.5    .62      .510    9.5   5.8   1.0   .22
1.85   Larry Nance  LA/Cl .605   13.5  11.4   2.1   1.40  LAL .560   10.1   8.9   2.1   .77

eW+     per36 rates   tm   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e484       Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e484
1.82   Kyle Anderson SAS  .572   11.4   7.7   3.9   1.08      .518    8.5   7.3   3.3   .64
1.77   Allen Crabbe  Brk  .553   14.9   5.3   2.0    .75  Por .596   12.8   3.5   1.4   .36
1.76 DeMarre Carroll Brk  .541   14.9   8.0   2.5   1.02  Tor .525   12.8   5.7   1.5   .63
1.75   Jusuf Nurkic  Por  .520   20.6  13.0   2.8   1.87      .518   16.1  12.6   3.3  1.46
1.65   Trey Burke    NYK  .559   19.5   3.2   7.1   1.46  Was .531   12.9   2.3   4.8   .44

1.63   Aaron Gordon  Orl  .523   17.7   8.9   2.5   1.30      .523   15.0   6.5   2.2   .89
1.59 Darren Collison Ind  .602   16.2   3.4   6.6   1.31  Sac .563   15.8   2.9   5.4   .93
1.59   Mike Scott    Was  .594   15.1   6.1   2.0    .69  Atl .363    6.0   6.4   2.9   .15
1.59   J Valanciunas Tor  .618   21.9  15.2   2.0   2.15      .592   19.0  14.3   1.1  1.71
1.56   Jakob Poeltl  Tor  .652   12.6   8.9   1.4    .91      .575    9.6   9.3    .7   .41
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