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The average number of attempts is well-tracked. Here is another cut at league practice: # of teams NOT taking at least 25 per game. In 2013-14, 26 teams did not take at least 25 per game. Then year to year it fell to 21, 18, 11 and now 6 this season. When will this number fall to zero? Next season or the following? It likely happens and fairly likely it eventually becomes a permanent zero, short of a distance change.

The Spurs are one of the laggards. Accommodation or over accommodation of talent (especially Aldridge)? Intentional contrarians? Potential of a playoff surprise?
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At game level, shooting 25 or less 3s isn't a bad indicator by itself. Teams winning a bit more than half of those games.

When shooting 40 plus, teams are winning about 60%. Well Houston is winning 85% and the rest of league a bit under half. Houston with more than 40% of such games.
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Crow wrote:At game level, shooting 25 or less 3s isn't a bad indicator by itself. Teams winning a bit more than half of those games.

When shooting 40 plus, teams are winning about 60%. Well Houston is winning 85% and the rest of league a bit under half. Houston with more than 40% of such games.
In Spanish league, we are having several games where at the end of it at least one of the teams are making more shoots from 3 points than 2 points. Here, our games duration is 40 minutes and for example, in one game, Estudiantes threw 40 3-point shots. If we check the maximum competition in europe, Euroleague, where play the best teams in Europe. We've got than Partizan Belgrado beats Real Madrid in Madrid throwing 40 3-points and scoring 17, 42,5%. On the other side, Partizan just only make 28 2-point shoots!!!. The percentage of 2-points and 3-points of Real Madrid were better than Partizan.
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Yes, european experience surely help inspire D'Antoni and the european expansion of use of 3 pointers over time helped demonstrate impact and encouraged NBA use expansion.
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Crow wrote:Yes, european experience surely help inspire D'Antoni and the european expansion of use of 3 pointers over time helped demonstrate impact and encouraged NBA use expansion.
But I think that the overuse of 3 pointers in NBA is due to statistic analysis , don't you?

When Mike D'Antoni was in Europe like player in Italy the abuse of 3 pointers doesn't exist and when he coached Olimpia Milano or Benneton Treviso either. If you remember her like Phoenix Suns's coach, the game that they played is not based on 3 pointers, they based their games in run-and-gun. This philosophy of game I'm agree that he developed like player in Europe, but the abuse of 3 pointers I'm not agree that this is an "invent" of D'Antoni or he developed this kind of game in europe. I'm not totally agree with this article http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-dan ... ba-2017-11

I'm going to tell you one thing that maybe in USA don't know. In Europe, at the end of the '80s and earlies of the 90's when a team abused of 3 pointers it was said that they were teams with unprocessed and primitive attacks. Today, everybody says that this is modern basketball :) These teams usually were teams from the east of europe (not serbian or croatian teams) or turkish teams. At the Olympic Games you could also see teams of this type like China for example. I'm talking about basketball in Europe at the end of the '80s and early of the 90's.
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Ok, I guess from what you say I was wrong about Italy influencing D'Antoni on the 3 pt attack. Seemed like a plausible influence / timepath but thanks for the correction. He got the 7 seconds or less offense from his time in Italy.

3pt attack considered as an unprocessed and primitive attack made sense in so far as it was a high variance strategy that might have improved odds of a win for teams who weren't the superior overall team.
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