Castle Vassell Barnes Wembanyama was the least strong Wemby quad in 10 most used. Fox Wemby was negative in brief test.
Put them together and is that the starting lineup? For what results? For how long?
His best pairs include Barnes, Champagnie and Sochan. If they play 3 guards and / or Olynyk or Kornet, will these guys maximize their time with Wemby or likely not and well short?
LIneup trends around the league
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2 different players at every position- 64 lineup combinations possible. If you understand player combinations, some will look and be better than others and not all 64 may really need testing.
3×3×3×3×3= 243 lineups. Use 4 players everywhere = 1024. Several NBA coaches got around 850. One nearly reached 1000. All used more than 243. Using more than 64 or 243 is searching, using inferior players and generally getting inferior results. Finch is low at 312, followed by Thibodeau.
Both could / should have been more selective. That was like using every combination of 3×3×4×3×3. It also makes the mean use of a lineup under 14 minutes for season and more than 2/3rds under 5 minutes. Unjudgeable. Finch had 9 over 100 minutes but only 3 over 160. The average team had a little over 3 lineups over the still pretty scant / not reliable 100 minutes. An average of 1 over 200 minutes.
Less than 1 in 4 tested anything over 400 minutes. All but 1 of the 7 were playoff teams, 5 made 2nd round, 3 made conference finals. An increasingly more common practice by those moving up the ladder. Thunder not in that group.
3×3×3×3×3= 243 lineups. Use 4 players everywhere = 1024. Several NBA coaches got around 850. One nearly reached 1000. All used more than 243. Using more than 64 or 243 is searching, using inferior players and generally getting inferior results. Finch is low at 312, followed by Thibodeau.
Both could / should have been more selective. That was like using every combination of 3×3×4×3×3. It also makes the mean use of a lineup under 14 minutes for season and more than 2/3rds under 5 minutes. Unjudgeable. Finch had 9 over 100 minutes but only 3 over 160. The average team had a little over 3 lineups over the still pretty scant / not reliable 100 minutes. An average of 1 over 200 minutes.
Less than 1 in 4 tested anything over 400 minutes. All but 1 of the 7 were playoff teams, 5 made 2nd round, 3 made conference finals. An increasingly more common practice by those moving up the ladder. Thunder not in that group.
Re: LIneup trends around the league
Thought experiment with changing Timberwolves lineup management some at the top:
https://x.com/bballstrategy/status/1957757674172600786
https://x.com/bballstrategy/status/1957757674172600786
Re: LIneup trends around the league
Blazers had some decent sub-lineup results with combinations of Henderson Sharpe Avdija Camara Clingan but all 5 together was horrible in a too brief 74 minute test.
Test it 200-300 minutes early and assess and change as appropriate.
Henderson - Clingan pair was bad overall. Will look for others. Sharpe - Camara was weak as was Henderson - Avdija. Should probably try to be more precise with the with / without details.
With Grant was a disaster with too many.
Avdija negative with everyone in main rotation but Clingan and barely Camara.
Henderson Sharpe was barely positive and the best main rotation pair but the rest are negative. I see no reason to design around that... other than to try it some more to probably get to the point of trading one or both. But deeper study is warranted.
Test it 200-300 minutes early and assess and change as appropriate.
Henderson - Clingan pair was bad overall. Will look for others. Sharpe - Camara was weak as was Henderson - Avdija. Should probably try to be more precise with the with / without details.
With Grant was a disaster with too many.
Avdija negative with everyone in main rotation but Clingan and barely Camara.
Henderson Sharpe was barely positive and the best main rotation pair but the rest are negative. I see no reason to design around that... other than to try it some more to probably get to the point of trading one or both. But deeper study is warranted.
Re: LIneup trends around the league
First draft core lineup rotation designed for Blazers based on last season's best sub-lineup performances. 9 lineups, 10 players, realistic / desirable minute allocations.
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2% of playoff lineups played 50+ minutes. Fairly tough but possible for 1st round outs, easier for the other half. 14 playoff teams had at least one but not the two teams who were 1st round sweeps. On average, teams had 1.5. TWolves and Thunder had 4, Knicks 3. About 65% were positive. TWolves, Knicks and Lakers had the worst performers. 8 double digits pts / 100p positive performers. Thunder with the best but 2nd least used. TWolves only one close, 15th most used. Thunder barely did enough to win. TWolves lost some ground using a great lineup too little and a bad one too much... and lost. 3 stunk from 3 pt range, 2 did well anyways including Thunder, Magic did not.
In regular season, teams had an average of a bit less than 9. The max was 14. Less than 10% of such regular season lineups repeated this fairly modest feat in playoffs.
70% of playoff lineups were used 5 minutes or less total. Almost 50 per team on average. Only about 35% were positive. Less than 25% shot better than average from 3. 40% had elevated TO rate.
In regular season, teams had an average of a bit less than 9. The max was 14. Less than 10% of such regular season lineups repeated this fairly modest feat in playoffs.
70% of playoff lineups were used 5 minutes or less total. Almost 50 per team on average. Only about 35% were positive. Less than 25% shot better than average from 3. 40% had elevated TO rate.