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back2newbelf
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:54 am Post subject: Old play by play files Reply with quote
I just found out that ESPN and Yahoo have play by play files going back to 03-04. That's 2 more years than what bbv has. If no one has done it, I will start converting those into matchupfiles at some point.
Does anyone know a site that has even older play by play files?
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EvanZ
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:55 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Where are the Yahoo pbp data? I like ESPN's because they give the player's full name and shot distances.
What programming language are you considering for this?
FWIW, it looks like CBS goes back to 05-06, so not better.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: Reply with quote
EvanZ wrote:
Where are the Yahoo pbp data? I like ESPN's because they give the player's full name and shot distances.
What programming language are you considering for this?
Ah my mistake, Yahoo doesn't have them. Sorry.
I'll use Python
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:52 am Post subject: Reply with quote
I uploaded old pbps to mediafire a long time ago. I think the links are still good. There are 01-02 to 05-06 for ESPN and NBA play by plays, but at some point I must have stripped all the HTML because these are just plain text. Each file is one game with filenames that look like:
20031029INDDET.txt
The NBA pbps look like this:
Code:
DET 87, IND 89
10/29/2003 The Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hill
1st Period
(12:00) Jump Ball Wallace vs O'Neal
(11:41) [IND 2-0] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(11:24) [DET] Hamilton Jump Shot: Missed
(11:22) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:14) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(11:12) [DET] Wallace Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:07) [IND] Pollard Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(11:07) [DET] Wallace Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(11:07) [DET] Team Rebound
(11:07) [DET 1-2] Wallace Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(10:51) [IND] Miller Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Campbell (1 ST)
(10:44) [DET] Wallace Hook Shot: Missed
(10:41) [IND] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:26) [IND] Pollard Layup: Missed Block: Campbell (1 BLK)
(10:25) [IND] Team Rebound
(10:19) [IND] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(10:04) [DET 3-2] Campbell Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Hamilton (1 AST)
(9:47) [DET] Campbell Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
The ESPN files look like this:
Code:
IND@DET
10-29-2003
Start of the 1st Quarter.
12:00Jumpball. Jermaine O'Neal vs. Ben Wallace. Kenny Anderson gains
possession.0-0__
11:41Jermaine O'Neal made 6 ft Jumper.2-0__
11:23__2-0Richard Hamilton missed 16 ft Jumper.
11:22Ron Artest Defensive Rebound.2-0__
11:14Ron Artest missed 12 ft Jumper.2-0__
11:11__2-0Ben Wallace Defensive Rebound.
11:07Scot Pollard Shooting Foul2-0__
11:07__2-0Ben Wallace missed Free Throw 1 of 2.
11:07__2-0Detroit Offensive Rebound.
11:07__2-1Ben Wallace made Free Throw 2 of 2.
10:51Reggie Miller Bad Pass. Stolen by Elden Campbell.2-1__
10:44__2-1Ben Wallace missed 9 ft Hook Shot.
10:41Jermaine O'Neal Defensive Rebound.2-1__
10:1824 second2-1__
10:03__2-3Elden Campbell made 9 ft Jumper. Assisted by Richard Hamilton.
09:47__2-3Elden Campbell Shooting Foul
The zipped ESPN and NBA files are about 23 megs. Links:
http://www.mediafire.com/?qc6vld1j771w6y7
http://www.mediafire.com/?3u0ximr1mnw5jba
I hope those links still work.
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back2newbelf
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:23 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Ed Küpfer wrote:
I uploaded old pbps to mediafire a long time ago.
That's awesome. Thank you! Some of the files are broken but it seems that those weren't/aren't available online anyway.
Because of the player names it's probably best to start with the ESPN data and only use NBA data when there's no corresponding file from ESPN.
For the NBA files you have to hope there are no two players with the same last name playing for the same team.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:47 am Post subject: Reply with quote
While we're at it: ESPN has college PBP starting in, it seems, 05-06. Anyone know if there are more somewhere else?
Do we have to get the old files now because they seem to take down older seasons?
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EvanZ
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: Reply with quote
back2newbelf wrote:
While we're at it: ESPN has college PBP starting in, it seems, 05-06. Anyone know if there are more somewhere else?
Do we have to get the old files now because they seem to take down older seasons?
I think ESPN has the best college pbp. I've thought about doing it myself, but that's certainly not a task I would beg others to stay away from. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:58 am Post subject: Reply with quote
back2newbelf wrote:
While we're at it: ESPN has college PBP starting in, it seems, 05-06. Anyone know if there are more somewhere else?
Do we have to get the old files now because they seem to take down older seasons?
Pomeroy might have some older data. He's been compiling it for a while.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:36 am Post subject: Reply with quote
So far as I know, the pbp data before 2002 is recorded by paper. So may be we can not get PBP data ealier than that year.
But it is also a valuable work to convert PBP data back to 03-04. If u need help, I can give u a hand. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
back2newbelf wrote:
While we're at it: ESPN has college PBP starting in, it seems, 05-06. Anyone know if there are more somewhere else?
While ESPN has college play by play, they don't list substitutions. There goes that project
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