Re: 2023 Playoff misc.
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:35 pm
How does this postseason place Jokic among the best ever?
Since 1974, VORP is counted. So we look at top 20 postseasons in VORP and Win Shares.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... son_p.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... son_p.html
About 15 top PO appear in both top 20s. One by Jordan makes top 10 in one but not top 20 in the other, so I tossed it in.
Then I looked up PO Games to get per-game WS and VORP. This kinda matters.
WS*VORP is actually the square root of that product. /G is just that divided by Games.
xyz is WS*VORP*(WV/G)* - won Finals mvp (this is from memory)
LeBron's 2009 didn't reach the Finals. It appears here because it's still top 20 in both VORP and WS; and serves as reminder that the list isn't comprehensive or exclusive, and others would likely be in here, but for the top-20 cutoff.
Since 1974, VORP is counted. So we look at top 20 postseasons in VORP and Win Shares.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... son_p.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... son_p.html
About 15 top PO appear in both top 20s. One by Jordan makes top 10 in one but not top 20 in the other, so I tossed it in.
Then I looked up PO Games to get per-game WS and VORP. This kinda matters.
WS*VORP is actually the square root of that product. /G is just that divided by Games.
xyz is WS*VORP*(WV/G)
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xyz W*V WV/G PO tm yr G WS VORP WS/G V/G
3.67 3.72 .265 LeBron Cle 2009 14 4.83 2.86 .345 .204
3.37 4.33 .180 Duncan * SAS 2003 24 5.94 3.15 .248 .131
3.36 4.26 .185 LeBron * Mia 2012 23 5.82 3.12 .253 .136
3.34 4.19 .190 LeBron Cle 2018 22 5.16 3.40 .235 .155
3.01 3.71 .218 Jordan * Chi 1991 17 4.77 2.89 .281 .170
2.84 3.84 .192 Jokic * Den 2023 20 5.01 2.95 .251 .148
2.67 3.94 .171 LeBron * Mia 2013 23 5.20 2.99 .226 .130
2.48 3.85 .167 Nowitzki Dal 2006 23 5.39 2.75 .234 .120
xyz W*V WV/G PO tm yr G WS VORP WS/G V/G
2.26 3.73 .162 Bird * Bos 1984 23 4.72 2.95 .205 .128
2.17 3.74 .156 Kawhi * Tor 2019 24 4.88 2.86 .203 .119
2.16 3.57 .170 LeBron * Cle 2016 21 4.69 2.71 .223 .129
2.08 3.63 .158 Wade * Mia 2006 23 4.79 2.75 .208 .120
1.88 3.40 .162 Jordan * Chi 1998 21 4.81 2.41 .229 .115
1.85 3.49 .152 Kobe * LAL 2009 23 4.66 2.62 .203 .114
1.81 3.46 .151 Shaq * LAL 2000 23 4.67 2.57 .203 .112
1.77 3.39 .154 Jordan * Chi 1992 22 4.13 2.78 .188 .126
LeBron's 2009 didn't reach the Finals. It appears here because it's still top 20 in both VORP and WS; and serves as reminder that the list isn't comprehensive or exclusive, and others would likely be in here, but for the top-20 cutoff.