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Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:41 am
by Mike G
Currently outperforming last season's performance in this season's minutes.
This year on the left, last year on the right.
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.56 Buddy Hield GSW .693 36.3 5.4 3.1 2.56 Phl .576 15.1 4.6 2.7 .77
.48 Ty Jerome Cle .683 25.0 5.4 5.7 2.09 .500 8.4 2.5 5.2 -.16
.43 Dennis Schröder Brk .659 21.4 3.6 6.4 1.45 .543 14.0 3.5 4.8 .60
.36 Jalen Suggs Orl .581 22.1 6.6 4.5 1.79 .595 16.6 4.5 2.7 .93
.35 Bilal Coulibaly Was .713 20.1 6.5 2.1 1.17 .535 9.0 5.1 1.5 .18
.35 Jeremy Sochan SAS .545 19.9 9.4 3.2 1.47 .508 11.5 7.6 2.7 .61
.34 Gradey Dick Tor .593 20.5 3.2 1.5 .97 .542 12.2 3.7 1.3 .26
.32 Darius Garland Cle .613 24.4 2.7 6.6 1.61 .554 18.2 3.0 5.2 .84
.31 James Harden LAC .504 21.4 9.0 9.1 1.91 .600 16.7 5.4 6.4 1.20
.31 Ochai Agbaji Tor .674 14.0 5.9 1.5 .76 .493 7.8 4.8 1.2 .05
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.29 Paolo Banchero Orl .573 28.8 8.7 4.8 2.28 .535 21.5 8.0 4.2 1.51
.28 Andrew Wiggins GSW .655 28.9 7.4 2.7 2.06 .537 15.4 6.0 1.5 .82
.27 Jordan Poole Was .638 25.1 1.4 4.8 1.51 .523 16.5 3.1 3.3 .65
.26 Chet Holmgren OKC .620 26.8 11.3 3.4 2.45 .622 20.1 9.6 2.1 1.73
.26 Jaden Ivey Det .548 20.4 5.6 3.4 1.16 .527 15.8 4.4 3.2 .60
.26 Trae Young Atl .576 23.6 4.9 8.8 1.67 .573 22.1 2.8 7.3 1.21
.24 Norman Powell LAC .634 28.1 3.1 1.5 1.47 .618 18.7 3.6 1.1 .91
.23 Chris Paul SAS .660 16.7 4.9 9.3 1.47 GSW .541 11.0 5.3 6.4 .85
.22 Karl-A Towns NYK .669 27.4 14.6 2.8 2.55 Min .615 25.2 9.5 2.6 1.86
.22 Jayson Tatum Bos .618 32.3 8.3 4.2 2.54 .593 27.2 8.0 3.7 2.13
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.21 Cade Cunningham Det .579 24.5 6.2 5.7 1.54 .539 20.4 4.7 5.4 1.14
.21 RJ Barrett Tor .578 28.0 6.5 5.7 1.99 .570 20.9 6.3 2.6 1.23
.19 Luguentz Dort OKC .667 18.4 4.3 1.6 1.14 .585 13.1 4.5 1.3 .58
.18 Anthony Davis LAL .628 30.6 13.1 2.3 2.78 .609 23.3 13.1 2.4 2.37
.18 Kyle Lowry Phl .807 16.2 3.9 3.6 1.17 .587 10.1 4.2 4.1 .39
.18 Tre Mann Cha .584 21.9 4.2 3.4 1.19 .553 12.1 5.4 4.1 .67
.17 Malaki Branham SAS .659 23.9 4.5 1.6 1.21 .523 12.9 3.3 2.4 .24
.17 Josh Hart NYK .645 15.0 11.3 3.0 1.20 .517 9.2 9.5 3.3 .74
.16 Shai G-A OKC .572 35.5 7.0 6.7 3.10 .622 31.5 5.8 4.7 2.69
.16 Cody Martin Cha .604 13.8 6.7 1.5 .76 .456 7.6 5.2 3.4 .22
.16 Tyler Herro Mia .619 26.8 5.6 4.7 1.85 .553 21.2 5.8 3.7 1.34
Ranked by current eWins (after 6-8 games) beyond what they'd have at last year's rates.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/
- Stats are a couple days old -
Same story for the bottom of the list. Most of these are still getting minutes in spite of production drops:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.15 Cole Anthony Orl .322 5.9 5.4 5.8 .21 .537 17.2 6.9 3.5 1.14
-.15 Dario Šarić Den .192 1.8 5.7 .6 -.48 GSW .593 15.8 9.3 3.3 1.16
-.15 L Markkanen Uta .550 20.1 8.5 1.8 1.18 .621 22.9 9.1 1.5 1.83
-.15 De'Aaron Fox Sac .573 22.1 5.2 4.5 1.35 .558 23.8 4.8 3.9 1.69
-.15 Tobias Harris Det .500 12.1 9.1 2.4 .87 Phl .569 17.2 6.9 2.4 1.20
-.15 Clint Capela Atl .719 14.8 10.6 1.2 1.11 .580 13.8 14.9 1.2 1.59
-.16 Herbert Jones NOP .519 7.2 3.2 1.0 -.02 .627 13.0 4.3 2.2 .67
-.17 Delon Wright Mil .577 4.9 1.5 1.7 -.33 Mia .499 8.3 4.1 3.9 .62
-.17 Kentavious C-P Orl .462 6.2 1.6 1.4 -.11 Den .595 11.4 2.8 1.9 .32
-.17 A Edwards Min .588 25.9 5.6 2.6 1.47 .566 26.5 5.8 4.1 1.84
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.18 Corey Kispert Was .500 9.9 3.1 1.6 .09 .613 16.4 3.7 1.7 .66
-.18 M Porter Den .566 14.9 6.9 2.1 .90 .598 18.9 8.1 1.2 1.30
-.19 Brandon Clarke Mem .535 10.7 6.6 1.3 .57 .544 16.3 8.8 1.8 1.47
-.19 Amen Thompson Hou .552 14.4 7.6 2.2 .66 .565 14.2 10.7 3.1 1.36
-.19 Collin Sexton Uta .563 18.8 3.3 2.9 .63 .596 22.3 3.7 4.5 1.30
-.20 Moussa Diabaté Cha .531 6.4 11.9 1.1 .47 LAC .558 14.9 13.6 1.6 1.84
-.22 Jusuf Nurkić Phx .476 12.4 13.6 2.2 .69 .547 13.0 15.1 3.7 1.51
-.23 Deandre Ayton Por .511 13.2 12.1 1.3 1.09 .583 17.0 13.0 1.3 1.60
-.23 Fred VanVleet Hou .425 9.9 3.1 4.7 .59 .561 15.7 3.8 5.7 1.10
-.24 Luka Dončić Dal .505 27.5 8.0 5.2 2.11 .606 30.5 8.8 6.6 2.65
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.24 Bobby Portis Mil .516 12.9 10.6 1.1 .77 .577 18.4 10.9 1.3 1.57
-.25 D DiVincenzo Min .488 11.0 4.1 3.7 .45 NYK .593 19.1 4.8 2.5 1.23
-.28 Myles Turner Ind .550 15.6 7.2 1.6 .72 .615 20.5 9.5 1.1 1.63
-.29 Jamal Murray Den .482 14.5 4.6 3.8 .84 .580 23.5 4.8 5.2 1.67
-.29 T Haliburton Ind .442 12.0 4.9 5.9 .87 .598 19.9 4.5 7.7 1.57
-.30 Rudy Gobert Min .619 11.5 11.9 1.4 .96 .656 16.2 14.2 1.1 1.69
-.33 Gary Trent Mil .448 7.3 1.7 .9 -.21 Tor .544 14.8 3.4 1.4 .66
-.34 A Drummond Phl .462 8.9 15.4 .7 .93 Chi .563 16.1 19.2 .7 2.12
-.35 Javonte Green NOP .685 8.2 5.9 .9 .44 Chi .675 17.7 10.7 .6 1.59
This list is upside down and includes a couple with few minutes last year; they may not be included in future updates.
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:37 pm
by Mike G
Corroboration with other stats. The eWins per 484 min. are a day or so older than the others.
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. improved tm e484 PER WS/48 BPM e484 PER WS/48 BPM
Buddy Hield GSW 2.56 26.8 .294 10.1 Phl .77 13.3 .077 0.4
D Schröder Brk 1.45 19.0 .160 1.8 .60 13.3 .063 -1.8
Jalen Suggs Orl 1.79 20.0 .155 5.3 .93 14.1 .112 1.0
B Coulibaly Was 1.17 15.7 .094 -1.8 .18 8.9 .013 -4.2
J Sochan SAS 1.47 16.9 .107 -0.1 .61 11.4 .030 -3.4
Gradey Dick Tor .97 17.2 .093 0.6 .26 8.9 .010 -5.4
D Garland Cle 1.61 22.9 .224 4.2 .84 14.5 .067 -1.0
J Harden LAC 1.91 19.4 .107 5.8 1.20 18.6 .163 4.1
O Agbaji Tor .76 15.9 .113 1.0 .05 7.7 .002 -4.4
P Banchero Orl 2.28 24.7 .194 5.2 1.51 17.3 .090 1.3
. improved tm e484 PER WS/48 BPM e484 PER WS/48 BPM
A Wiggins GSW 2.06 19.7 .225 3.2 .82 12.7 .070 -2.5
J Poole Was 1.51 21.2 .104 5.3 .65 12.1 -.013 -3.9
C Holmgren OKC 2.45 24.0 .256 7.1 1.73 20.4 .178 3.4
Jaden Ivey Det 1.16 16.3 .089 0.1 .60 12.4 .010 -3.1
Trae Young Atl 1.67 19.0 .072 -0.6 1.21 20.3 .114 2.6
N Powell LAC 1.47 20.7 .162 5.0 .91 13.9 .099 -0.8
Chris Paul SAS 1.47 18.6 .185 3.2 GSW .85 14.7 .136 1.0
Karl-A Towns NYK 2.55 27.3 .254 4.9 Min 1.86 18.8 .148 2.5
Jayson Tatum Bos 2.54 27.9 .285 9.2 2.13 22.3 .189 5.1
C Cunningham Det 1.54 17.8 .071 1.9 1.14 17.1 .041 0.3
. improved tm e484 PER WS/48 BPM e484 PER WS/48 BPM
RJ Barrett Tor 1.99 19.6 .079 0.7 1.23 16.4 .075 -0.8
Lu Dort OKC 1.14 15.2 .239 2.5 .58 11.1 .097 -1.6
A Davis LAL 2.78 31.0 .241 8.1 2.37 25.8 .210 5.1
Kyle Lowry Phl 1.17 20.6 .230 6.0 .39 10.9 .100 -1.0
Tre Mann Cha 1.19 19.4 .114 1.4 .67 13.7 .058 -1.3
M Branham SAS 1.21 15.6 .079 0.9 .24 8.7 -.008 -5.6
Josh Hart NYK 1.20 17.1 .142 1.6 .74 11.8 .100 0.0
Shai G-A OKC 3.10 27.1 .299 9.9 2.69 29.3 .275 9.0
Cody Martin Cha .76 14.6 .104 -1.1 .22 9.2 -.012 -3.5
Tyler Herro Mia 1.85 20.6 .160 3.9 1.34 15.7 .068 0.8
Z Williams Brk 1.08 16.1 .127 0.2 Mem .51 9.3 .010 -4.5
From worst to less-worse:
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slow starts tm e484 PER WS/48 BPM e484 PER WS/48 BPM
Jav. Green NOP .44 12.3 .100 -1.4 Chi 1.59 20.2 .180 2.0
A Drummond Phl .93 12.1 .006 -6.6 Chi 2.12 23.0 .175 0.1
Gary Trent Mil -.21 3.3 -.062 -9.0 Tor .66 12.0 .040 -2.6
Rudy Gobert Min .96 14.7 .151 -0.8 1.69 19.3 .216 1.8
T Haliburton Ind .87 14.7 .054 -1.1 1.57 23.3 .195 6.9
Jamal Murray Den .84 12.6 .071 -3.7 1.67 20.7 .153 4.1
Myles Turner Ind .72 13.5 .015 -3.6 1.63 19.3 .134 0.9
D DiVincenzo Min .45 10.5 .038 -2.0 NYK 1.23 16.0 .135 3.4
Bobby Portis Mil .77 14.3 -.003 -5.1 1.57 17.5 .112 -0.8
Luka Dončić Dal 2.11 20.6 .132 3.1 2.65 28.1 .220 9.9
slow starts tm e484 PER WS/48 BPM e484 PER WS/48 BPM
F VanVleet Hou .59 11.6 .109 -0.6 1.10 16.7 .150 3.4
D Ayton Por 1.09 16.5 .101 -1.7 1.60 18.9 .106 0.3
Jusuf Nurkić Phx .69 8.4 -.041 -7.7 1.51 17.4 .133 1.1
C Sexton Uta .63 13.0 .025 -3.9 1.30 19.9 .127 1.9
Am. Thompson Hou .66 13.7 .103 -0.7 1.36 18.2 .149 1.8
B Clarke Mem .57 12.7 .103 -2.3 1.47 18.9 .108 1.0
M Porter Den .90 14.4 .101 -0.9 1.30 15.5 .115 0.1
C Kispert Was .09 6.5 -.034 -7.5 .66 12.8 .048 -2.1
A Edwards Min 1.47 17.9 .080 1.2 1.84 19.7 .130 3.3
KC-Pope Orl -.11 6.4 .046 -4.2 Den .32 10.7 .096 -1.4
slow starts tm e484 PER WS/48 BPM e484 PER WS/48 BPM
Delon Wright Mil -.33 5.0 -.001 -6.1 Mia .62 13.6 .109 0.4
H Jones NOP -.02 7.6 .000 -6.3 .67 13.2 .131 0.6
Clint Capela Atl 1.11 16.1 .114 -2.0 1.59 20.7 .161 0.1
T Harris Det .87 11.7 .056 -2.2 Phl 1.20 16.5 .121 0.9
De'Aaron Fox Sac 1.35 18.0 .093 -1.2 1.69 20.1 .117 2.7
L Markkanen Uta 1.18 16.4 .084 -0.1 1.83 21.5 .163 3.6
Dario Šarić Den -.48 -1.7 -.148 -15.1 GSW 1.16 15.3 .123 1.0
Cole Anthony Orl .21 3.7 -.129 -8.6 1.14 14.6 .096 0.1
Mo. Wagner Orl 1.22 15.1 .084 -3.2 1.80 20.6 .188 2.0
Nuggets are 28 pts/100 better with Jokic than without; and -54/100 with Saric (in 44 min.) at C.
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:08 pm
by Crow
EW+ players lists had 3 center risers and 10 fallers.
Might try to detect patterns / reasons but not at this moment. But the main questions is:
is it mainly scoring efficiency / usage, other stuff or many diverse things?
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:08 pm
by Mike G
Through 12 games, Victor Wembanyama is modestly improved over last season. Mostly better numbers, a few weaker.
But he's much better than he was
after 12 games of his rookie season.
If this year his improvement from 12 games to the full season is
half as much as the same progression last year:
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year G TS% eFG% ORb% DRb% TRb% Ast% Stl% Blk% TO% ORtg DRtg GmSc
2324 12 .520 .483 7.4 29.0 17.6 11.9 1.7 6.8 17.4 92 114 12.9
2324 71 .565 .519 8.2 30.9 19.0 21.9 2.0 10.0 16.2 104 106 18.4
2425 12 .594 .554 7.7 27.4 17.9 15.2 2.1 11.4 15.4 108 101 18.9
projected:
2425 82 .620 .575 8.1 28.3 18.6 21.6 2.3 14.1 14.9 115 97.5 22.9
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:14 pm
by Crow
That is one way to think about it and could happen.
But Darko projection has stopped improving and was far below his early last season rate before hitting zero.
But stopping at 6th best estimate in league is still great.
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:19 pm
by Crow
I don't know how good the research is in general on teams and specific teams about evaluating player fit in contexts and projecting a player on a new team.
But KCP is looking like a misprojection and / or disappointment. To name one case.
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:25 am
by Mike G
Teams have played 12 to 15 games.
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.98 Darius Garland Cle .655 26.1 3.0 6.9 1.86 .554 18.2 3.0 5.2 .84
.79 Franz Wagner Orl .563 27.1 6.7 5.4 2.25 .566 21.0 6.6 3.1 1.46
.78 Karl-A Towns NYK .651 28.4 14.8 2.7 2.71 Min .615 25.2 9.5 2.6 1.86
.72 Ochai Agbaji Tor .629 13.0 5.7 1.9 .74 .493 7.8 4.8 1.2 .05
.71 Cade Cunningham Det .534 21.4 7.3 7.3 1.71 .539 20.4 4.7 5.4 1.14
.65 Ty Jerome *23 Cle .709 22.3 4.2 6.0 1.78 *GSW .589 12.3 3.3 4.6 .60
.65 Jalen Williams OKC .591 25.0 6.6 5.0 2.13 .614 21.6 4.5 3.7 1.46
.64 James Harden LAC .521 19.0 8.3 8.1 1.76 .600 16.7 5.4 6.4 1.20
.54 Dennis Schröder Brk .587 17.3 3.3 5.5 1.12 .543 14.0 3.5 4.8 .60
.53 Josh Hart NYK .678 13.6 9.4 4.7 1.21 .517 9.2 9.5 3.3 .74
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.53 Buddy Hield GSW .647 24.3 5.1 2.2 1.54 Phl .576 15.1 4.6 2.7 .77
.52 Norman Powell LAC .630 25.1 3.4 2.2 1.38 .618 18.7 3.6 1.1 .91
.50 B Mathurin Ind .652 21.1 8.0 1.6 1.30 .552 16.8 5.7 1.8 .77
.50 Jaden Ivey Det .533 18.9 5.1 4.0 1.08 .527 15.8 4.4 3.2 .60
.50 Gradey Dick Tor .554 17.3 3.2 2.0 .71 .542 12.2 3.7 1.3 .26
.45 Anthony Black Orl .518 11.5 4.3 5.6 .73 .551 9.2 4.8 2.1 .18
.45 Jordan Poole Was .605 21.5 2.6 4.1 1.18 .523 16.5 3.1 3.3 .65
.44 Jaren Jackson Mem .628 28.6 7.0 1.1 2.08 .542 22.5 6.3 1.9 1.50
.42 Stephen Curry GSW .637 30.4 6.3 6.8 2.46 .609 27.7 4.9 3.9 1.79
.42 Jayson Tatum Bos .611 29.6 8.2 5.3 2.49 .593 27.2 8.0 3.7 2.13
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.42 Chris Paul SAS .616 13.4 4.8 9.2 1.33 GSW .541 11.0 5.3 6.4 .85
.41 Tyler Herro Mia .643 26.3 5.3 4.9 1.76 .553 21.2 5.8 3.7 1.34
.41 Paolo Banchero Orl .573 29.8 9.2 5.2 2.58 .535 21.5 8.0 4.2 1.51
.39 OG Anunoby NYK .601 15.9 5.9 1.8 1.00 .590 14.5 4.5 1.6 .66
.39 Luguentz Dort OKC .640 16.7 4.6 1.9 1.01 .585 13.1 4.5 1.3 .58
.38 Bilal Coulibaly Was .628 13.1 5.7 2.0 .59 .535 9.0 5.1 1.5 .18
.37 Dyson Daniels Atl .520 12.6 5.2 2.6 .93 NOP .524 8.4 6.3 3.2 .55
.36 Isaiah Stewart Det .630 9.9 10.9 2.5 .99 .592 11.3 7.8 1.2 .52
.34 Alperen Sengun Hou .520 20.8 13.0 5.3 2.28 .575 22.0 10.4 4.0 1.93
.34 LaMelo Ball Cha .568 28.8 5.5 6.0 1.94 .554 22.9 5.7 6.0 1.59
* Ty Jerome hardly appeared last season, so he's compared to his 2023 season with GS, when he went 816 min.
LaMelo had 711 minutes last year; the rest all 1100+
Biggest eWins deficits:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.55 Andre Drummond Phl .515 11.1 15.1 .7 1.10 Chi .563 16.1 19.2 .7 2.12
-.54 Rudy Gobert Min .664 12.0 12.3 1.8 1.09 .656 16.2 14.2 1.1 1.69
-.53 Luka Dončić Dal .533 25.2 7.5 6.3 2.09 .606 30.5 8.8 6.6 2.65
-.53 Jamal Murray Den .502 14.4 4.4 4.5 .86 .580 23.5 4.8 5.2 1.67
-.48 Donte DiVincenzo Min .492 10.6 4.6 3.8 .55 NYK .593 19.1 4.8 2.5 1.23
-.47 Myles Turner Ind .581 16.9 7.8 1.2 1.03 .615 20.5 9.5 1.1 1.63
-.46 Lauri Markkanen Uta .597 17.6 7.7 2.3 1.07 .621 22.9 9.1 1.5 1.83
-.46 Terry Rozier Mia .500 12.6 4.7 3.7 .61 .549 19.0 4.4 4.3 1.23
-.46 Joel Embiid Phl .478 14.4 7.9 4.2 .84 .628 37.3 11.8 4.4 3.34
-.43 T Haliburton Ind .501 13.5 4.0 6.9 1.12 .598 19.9 4.5 7.7 1.57
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.42 Gary Trent Mil .484 8.6 2.0 1.1 -.06 Tor .544 14.8 3.4 1.4 .66
-.39 Corey Kispert Was .534 10.0 3.6 1.4 .14 .613 16.4 3.7 1.7 .66
-.39 Jusuf Nurkić Phx .485 10.8 15.1 1.4 .87 .547 13.0 15.1 3.7 1.51
-.39 Kelly Oubre Phl .486 12.4 5.7 1.2 .47 .528 16.4 6.0 1.3 .97
-.38 Jalen Brunson NYK .573 23.9 3.4 6.2 1.61 .583 28.7 3.9 5.2 2.02
-.33 Collin Sexton Uta .582 18.4 4.1 3.4 .81 .596 22.3 3.7 4.5 1.30
-.33 Anfernee Simons Por .497 16.1 2.4 4.2 .63 .561 21.1 4.0 4.1 1.10
-.33 Keegan Murray Sac .526 10.5 8.4 1.4 .60 .565 14.7 6.1 1.2 .92
-.32 Devin Booker Phx .563 21.3 3.7 5.6 1.49 .600 26.1 4.7 5.0 1.81
-.31 Mikal Bridges NYK .560 13.6 4.1 2.7 .67 Brk .553 18.3 4.7 2.7 .98
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.31 Bam Adebayo Mia .492 14.2 9.7 3.6 1.42 .565 19.6 11.2 3.2 1.77
-.31 Klay Thompson Dal .532 14.8 4.1 1.8 .63 GSW .572 19.8 4.0 1.9 1.02
-.30 Rui Hachimura LAL .536 10.9 6.8 1.3 .57 .621 17.2 5.9 1.1 1.03
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:41 pm
by Mike G
Code: Select all
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.03 Franz Wagner Orl .562 26.4 6.5 5.9 2.24 .566 21.0 6.6 3.1 1.46
1.00 Jalen Williams OKC .605 26.7 6.8 5.4 2.31 .614 21.6 4.5 3.7 1.46
.97 James Harden LAC .550 22.0 7.9 8.1 1.89 .600 16.7 5.4 6.4 1.20
.87 Ty Jerome Cle .716 23.5 3.7 5.7 1.75 *GSW .589 12.3 3.3 4.6 .60
.84 Darius Garland Cle .614 23.3 2.9 6.8 1.59 .554 18.2 3.0 5.2 .84
.83 Ochai Agbaji Tor .644 13.4 5.4 1.8 .73 .493 7.8 4.8 1.2 .05
.83 Karl-A Towns NYK .647 27.0 14.9 2.8 2.56 Min .615 25.2 9.5 2.6 1.86
.74 Dennis Schröder Brk .589 17.8 3.7 5.8 1.18 .543 14.0 3.5 4.8 .60
.65 Cade Cunningham Det .526 21.0 7.3 7.4 1.65 .539 20.4 4.7 5.4 1.14
.64 Jaden Ivey Det .544 19.5 5.2 4.1 1.13 .527 15.8 4.4 3.2 .60
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.62 Josh Hart NYK .690 13.6 8.8 4.4 1.19 .517 9.2 9.5 3.3 .74
.60 Andrew Wiggins GSW .578 21.5 5.3 2.5 1.46 .537 15.4 6.0 1.5 .82
.56 LaMelo Ball Cha .557 29.9 5.8 6.3 2.04 .554 22.9 5.7 6.0 1.59
.53 Buddy Hield GSW .626 23.2 5.0 2.0 1.38 Phl .576 15.1 4.6 2.7 .77
.53 Chris Paul SAS .615 13.5 4.6 9.0 1.33 GSW .541 11.0 5.3 6.4 .85
.53 Norman Powell LAC .630 25.9 3.5 2.2 1.41 .618 18.7 3.6 1.1 .91
.50 Gradey Dick Tor .548 17.1 3.5 2.0 .69 .542 12.2 3.7 1.3 .26
.50 OG Anunoby NYK .614 16.5 5.7 1.7 1.02 .590 14.5 4.5 1.6 .66
.48 Anthony Black Orl .500 11.3 4.1 5.6 .65 .551 9.2 4.8 2.1 .18
.48 Jaren Jackson Mem .611 27.5 7.1 1.4 1.98 .542 22.5 6.3 1.9 1.50
James Harden: 35 year old PG picks up his per game scoring by 5.0, rebounds by 2.1, steals by 0.6, assists 0.2 -- for a team that improves their DRtg by 6.6, from 18th in the league last year to 6th now.
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:43 am
by Crow
Agbaji and Jerome, 2nd and 4th teams hand me downs. Agbaji gets to positive impact at 24. Jerome makes a big leap ahead at 27 after briefly making positive impact at 23.5.
And yet so many are bonkers for 19 year olds and turn their noses up at 22 or even 21 year olds.
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:11 pm
by Mike G
Holy cow -- Ty Jerome with enough minutes to qualify and 3rd in the league in WS/48; 9th in BPM; 7th in PER.
His WS improvement (from 2 yrs ago) is about 22% more than I get with eWins.
ORtg, eFG% and TS% are 2nd to Gafford, and all these stats lead the Cavs.
Has anyone ever won MIP and 6th man in the same season?
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:02 pm
by Mike G
data dump time!
All with > .20 eWins extra/deficit this year, by team. You can usually see who is most responsible for over/under-achieving teams this year. Exceptions are players missing from action, who don't provide any useful data.
Code: Select all
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.32 Dyson Daniels Atl .505 11.5 5.3 2.5 .82 NOP .524 8.4 6.3 3.2 .55
.27 Jalen Johnson Atl .560 16.3 10.1 4.0 1.38 .578 14.7 9.3 2.6 1.18
.24 Garrison Mathews Atl .681 14.4 2.0 2.2 .59 .658 11.1 3.3 .9 .22
.34 Derrick White Bos .629 19.5 5.0 4.2 1.41 .605 17.0 4.6 4.3 1.14
.32 Jayson Tatum Bos .594 28.1 8.5 5.3 2.36 .593 27.2 8.0 3.7 2.13
.22 Payton Pritchard Bos .658 19.7 3.4 3.5 1.21 .594 15.6 5.1 4.2 .99
-.57 Neemias Queta Bos .657 12.8 10.1 1.4 1.01 .653 17.8 12.9 1.6 1.90
.74 Dennis Schröder Brk .589 17.8 3.7 5.8 1.18 .543 14.0 3.5 4.8 .60
.36 Cameron Johnson Brk .648 18.8 5.2 2.9 1.27 .576 16.2 5.7 2.2 .99
.26 Ziaire Williams Brk .529 12.1 7.7 1.7 .81 Mem .505 12.4 6.4 1.9 .51
.25 Dorian F-Smith Brk .611 12.0 5.8 1.9 .65 .543 9.6 6.0 1.4 .38
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.56 LaMelo Ball Cha .557 29.9 5.8 6.3 2.04 .554 22.9 5.7 6.0 1.59
.46 Cody Martin Cha .539 10.1 6.5 2.5 .71 .456 7.6 5.2 3.4 .22
.38 Brandon Miller Cha .548 18.9 5.6 3.4 1.17 .547 16.5 4.7 1.8 .78
-.23 Josh Green Cha .569 8.0 3.6 1.9 .05 Dal .583 10.2 4.4 2.2 .32
.32 Nikola Vučević Chi .655 20.5 10.9 2.8 1.71 .537 16.7 11.3 2.5 1.47
-.21 Josh Giddey Chi .530 12.7 7.7 6.7 1.06 OKC .542 16.0 9.1 4.9 1.24
-.25 Jalen Smith Chi .584 15.1 11.4 1.4 1.28 Ind .672 19.7 12.0 1.4 1.77
.87 Ty Jerome Cle .716 23.5 3.7 5.7 1.75 GSW .589 12.3 3.3 4.6 .60
.84 Darius Garland Cle .614 23.3 2.9 6.8 1.59 .554 18.2 3.0 5.2 .84
-.34 Sam Merrill Cle .580 10.7 3.3 2.2 .33 .596 16.0 4.1 2.7 .89
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.32 P.J. Washington Dal .533 12.2 9.9 2.0 1.08 .531 12.9 6.6 1.6 .74
.30 Daniel Gafford Dal .713 22.3 11.2 1.6 2.01 .717 16.2 10.8 1.5 1.63
-.34 Klay Thompson Dal .518 14.5 4.5 1.9 .68 GSW .572 19.8 4.0 1.9 1.02
-.34 Jaden Hardy Dal .479 12.0 3.0 2.5 .15 .513 16.2 4.7 2.8 .76
-.59 Luka Dončić Dal .541 25.5 7.5 6.2 2.09 .606 30.5 8.8 6.6 2.65
.28 Christian Braun Den .671 16.4 5.2 1.6 .92 .545 12.2 6.8 2.0 .69
-.20 Michael Porter Den .591 16.8 7.3 2.4 1.14 .598 18.9 8.1 1.2 1.30
-.27 Dario Šarić Den .395 6.1 8.9 2.3 .19 GSW .593 15.8 9.3 3.3 1.16
-.61 Jamal Murray Den .516 15.4 4.5 5.1 1.07 .580 23.5 4.8 5.2 1.67
.65 Cade Cunningham Det .526 21.0 7.3 7.4 1.65 .539 20.4 4.7 5.4 1.14
.64 Jaden Ivey Det .544 19.5 5.2 4.1 1.13 .527 15.8 4.4 3.2 .60
.45 Isaiah Stewart Det .621 10.1 10.6 2.6 1.02 .592 11.3 7.8 1.2 .52
.29 Malik Beasley Det .556 16.8 3.7 2.0 .75 Mil .601 12.8 4.5 1.2 .50
-.20 Si. Fontecchio Det .561 11.0 5.5 1.2 .32 .596 13.4 5.5 1.5 .61
-.35 Tobias Harris Det .522 13.1 8.0 2.2 .93 Phl .569 17.2 6.9 2.4 1.20
-.54 Tim Hardaway Det .578 12.4 2.2 2.0 .29 Dal .537 16.7 4.3 1.6 .84
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.60 Andrew Wiggins GSW .578 21.5 5.3 2.5 1.46 .537 15.4 6.0 1.5 .82
.53 Buddy Hield GSW .626 23.2 5.0 2.0 1.38 Phl .576 15.1 4.6 2.7 .77
.42 Stephen Curry GSW .646 29.2 6.1 6.8 2.27 .609 27.7 4.9 3.9 1.79
.22 Kevon Looney GSW .494 10.7 16.5 2.8 1.51 .608 9.6 12.7 2.8 1.05
-.31 Lindy Waters GSW .542 11.3 4.7 2.3 .60 OKC .652 18.0 5.1 2.2 1.15
.47 Alperen Sengun Hou .528 21.9 12.4 5.4 2.31 .575 22.0 10.4 4.0 1.93
-.28 Steven Adams Hou .500 6.8 7.9 3.2 -.07 *Mem .551 10.6 15.1 2.5 1.23
.45 Be. Mathurin Ind .614 18.8 8.1 1.6 1.13 .552 16.8 5.7 1.8 .77
-.46 Ty. Haliburton Ind .536 15.1 3.8 7.2 1.23 .598 19.9 4.5 7.7 1.57
-.72 Myles Turner Ind .578 15.8 8.5 1.2 1.00 .615 20.5 9.5 1.1 1.63
.97 James Harden LAC .550 22.0 7.9 8.1 1.89 .600 16.7 5.4 6.4 1.20
.53 Norman Powell LAC .630 25.9 3.5 2.2 1.41 .618 18.7 3.6 1.1 .91
.24 Kris Dunn LAC .564 10.7 6.2 4.0 .78 Uta .543 8.5 5.6 5.0 .52
.22 Derrick Jones LAC .610 14.8 5.4 1.2 .73 Dal .583 12.1 5.0 1.1 .53
-.28 Kevin Porter LAC .440 12.9 6.5 4.5 .66 *Hou .556 17.4 5.8 4.8 1.02
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.24 Anthony Davis LAL .618 27.2 12.4 2.7 2.57 .609 23.3 13.1 2.4 2.37
-.34 D'Angelo Russell LAL .511 12.5 3.0 5.3 .67 .582 18.0 3.5 4.8 1.00
-.35 Rui Hachimura LAL .554 11.5 6.3 1.5 .61 .621 17.2 5.9 1.1 1.03
.48 Jaren Jackson Mem .611 27.5 7.1 1.4 1.98 .542 22.5 6.3 1.9 1.50
.38 Santi Aldama Mem .552 14.7 9.8 3.5 1.25 .535 12.9 8.0 2.2 .90
.29 Scotty Pippen Mem .584 16.5 5.5 6.5 1.32 .588 17.4 4.7 4.9 1.03
.23 Jake LaRavia Mem .606 12.4 6.9 4.6 1.01 .530 14.9 5.9 1.9 .77
-.29 Brandon Clarke Mem .583 12.9 8.7 1.2 1.02 .544 16.3 8.8 1.8 1.47
.31 Tyler Herro Mia .608 24.3 5.6 4.7 1.60 .553 21.2 5.8 3.7 1.34
-.24 Josh Richardson Mia .400 5.4 2.7 2.4 -.17 .568 13.4 4.0 2.6 .59
-.43 Bam Adebayo Mia .499 14.3 9.5 4.1 1.40 .565 19.6 11.2 3.2 1.77
-.54 Terry Rozier Mia .519 13.4 4.5 3.4 .62 .549 19.0 4.4 4.3 1.23
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.36 Damian Lillard Mil .597 25.0 4.4 6.5 1.78 .579 22.6 4.5 5.0 1.46
.23 Giannis A Mil .610 32.6 12.1 5.5 2.96 .631 30.1 11.8 4.7 2.76
-.29 Delon Wright Mil .400 4.0 3.6 3.2 .06 Mia .499 8.3 4.1 3.9 .62
-.32 Bobby Portis Mil .509 16.0 10.7 1.6 1.19 .577 18.4 10.9 1.3 1.57
-.45 Gary Trent Mil .539 10.3 2.6 1.0 .13 Tor .544 14.8 3.4 1.4 .66
-.20 Josh Minott Min .500 5.6 3.2 .7 -.47 .581 20.0 7.0 2.4 1.82
-.26 Naz Reid Min .615 18.3 7.6 1.8 1.20 .589 20.4 8.1 1.5 1.48
-.26 Anthony Edwards Min .596 25.6 5.6 3.2 1.65 .566 26.5 5.8 4.1 1.84
-.37 Julius Randle Min .602 21.8 7.5 3.8 1.42 NYK .558 23.2 9.9 3.8 1.71
-.76 Rudy Gobert Min .687 11.5 12.6 1.8 1.08 .656 16.2 14.2 1.1 1.69
-.77 Donte DiVincenzo Min .485 10.0 4.3 3.8 .43 NYK .593 19.1 4.8 2.5 1.23
-1.22 Javonte Green NOP .543 7.9 5.1 1.1 .31 Chi .675 17.7 10.7 .6 1.59
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.83 Karl-A Towns NYK .647 27.0 14.9 2.8 2.56 Min .615 25.2 9.5 2.6 1.86
.62 Josh Hart NYK .690 13.6 8.8 4.4 1.19 .517 9.2 9.5 3.3 .74
.50 OG Anunoby NYK .614 16.5 5.7 1.7 1.02 .590 14.5 4.5 1.6 .66
-.48 Jalen Brunson NYK .599 24.4 3.2 6.6 1.66 .583 28.7 3.9 5.2 2.02
-.64 Mikal Bridges NYK .533 12.5 4.0 2.5 .53 Brk .553 18.3 4.7 2.7 .98
1.00 Jalen Williams OKC .605 26.7 6.8 5.4 2.31 .614 21.6 4.5 3.7 1.46
.23 Chet Holmgren OKC .605 24.1 11.0 2.4 2.14 .622 20.1 9.6 2.1 1.73
1.03 Franz Wagner Orl .562 26.4 6.5 5.9 2.24 .566 21.0 6.6 3.1 1.46
.48 Anthony Black Orl .500 11.3 4.1 5.6 .65 .551 9.2 4.8 2.1 .18
.46 Jalen Suggs Orl .552 19.0 5.6 4.4 1.33 .595 16.6 4.5 2.7 .93
.37 Paolo Banchero Orl .573 29.3 9.3 5.2 2.51 .535 21.5 8.0 4.2 1.51
-.29 Jonathan Isaac Orl .509 11.0 10.7 .5 1.17 .601 15.4 11.4 .9 1.63
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.20 Paul George Phl .494 15.3 7.1 5.2 1.19 LAC .605 23.3 5.7 2.7 1.62
-.24 Eric Gordon Phl .458 7.9 2.0 2.2 -.06 Phx .576 13.3 2.4 1.9 .40
-.26 Caleb Martin Phl .502 9.1 5.9 2.4 .32 Mia .526 12.0 5.9 2.2 .57
-.37 Ricky Council Phl .470 8.3 4.8 2.0 .16 .586 20.6 5.7 1.5 1.41
-.48 Kelly Oubre Phl .495 11.8 6.2 1.4 .53 .528 16.4 6.0 1.3 .97
-.52 Joel Embiid Phl .534 19.7 9.2 3.5 1.34 .628 37.3 11.8 4.4 3.34
-.67 Andre Drummond Phl .530 11.7 15.0 .9 1.16 Chi .563 16.1 19.2 .7 2.12
.28 Royce O'Neale Phx .557 11.3 8.6 2.5 .93 .546 10.1 7.1 2.9 .63
.20 Josh Okogie Phx .625 17.2 7.8 1.1 1.08 .539 9.3 6.0 1.7 .45
-.22 Mason Plumlee Phx .588 8.8 11.7 3.0 .81 LAC .602 12.6 12.6 2.1 1.18
-.23 Grayson Allen Phx .540 13.2 4.0 1.4 .41 .671 15.0 4.4 2.3 .76
-.35 Jusuf Nurkić Phx .518 11.3 15.3 1.7 1.06 .547 13.0 15.1 3.7 1.51
-.46 Devin Booker Phx .577 21.9 3.6 5.5 1.47 .600 26.1 4.7 5.0 1.81
-.30 Deandre Ayton Por .555 14.2 12.7 1.1 1.20 .583 17.0 13.0 1.3 1.60
-.38 Jerami Grant Por .513 14.8 3.7 2.0 .69 .563 19.9 4.0 2.1 1.01
-.47 Anfernee Simons Por .500 16.1 2.8 4.0 .64 .561 21.1 4.0 4.1 1.10
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.25 Trey Lyles Sac .500 7.7 7.4 1.4 .41 .588 12.0 8.3 1.6 .75
-.28 Kevin Huerter Sac .508 10.4 5.1 2.3 .50 .561 13.5 5.4 2.7 .79
-.45 Keegan Murray Sac .516 10.4 8.3 1.4 .61 .565 14.7 6.1 1.2 .92
.53 Chris Paul SAS .615 13.5 4.6 9.0 1.33 GSW .541 11.0 5.3 6.4 .85
.41 Julian Champagnie SAS .579 13.3 6.3 1.8 .76 .563 10.8 4.9 1.7 .40
.30 Jeremy Sochan SAS .548 17.5 9.5 3.2 1.31 .508 11.5 7.6 2.7 .61
.28 Victor Wembanyama SAS .585 25.3 11.3 3.1 2.35 .556 22.5 12.6 3.1 2.09
.21 Malaki Branham SAS .581 17.2 4.5 2.7 .72 .523 12.9 3.3 2.4 .24
.83 Ochai Agbaji Tor .644 13.4 5.4 1.8 .73 .493 7.8 4.8 1.2 .05
.50 Gradey Dick Tor .548 17.1 3.5 2.0 .69 .542 12.2 3.7 1.3 .26
.27 Jakob Poeltl Tor .584 15.7 13.9 2.2 1.53 .643 14.3 11.7 2.3 1.32
.20 RJ Barrett Tor .513 20.4 6.9 5.3 1.41 .570 20.9 6.3 2.6 1.23
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.25 Keyonte George Uta .508 14.4 3.3 5.3 .56 .526 14.1 3.9 4.0 .33
.23 John Collins Uta .626 20.2 11.5 2.6 1.65 .612 17.5 11.2 1.0 1.42
-.49 Collin Sexton Uta .607 19.3 3.2 3.3 .83 .596 22.3 3.7 4.5 1.30
-.50 Lauri Markkanen Uta .623 19.6 7.8 2.1 1.29 .621 22.9 9.1 1.5 1.83
.37 Jordan Poole Was .593 20.8 2.5 4.3 1.05 .523 16.5 3.1 3.3 .65
.31 Bilal Coulibaly Was .578 11.1 5.5 2.1 .45 .535 9.0 5.1 1.5 .18
-.40 Kyle Kuzma Was .482 15.1 7.0 1.9 .59 .542 19.9 7.0 2.9 1.18
-.55 Corey Kispert Was .522 10.1 3.8 1.4 .11 .613 16.4 3.7 1.7 .66
* -- from 2022-23
Kuzma, with exactly half of last season's eW rate, has generated .40 eWins, rather than .80, in his 330 minutes:
1.18*330/484 = .80
and
(.59-1.18)*330/484 = -.40
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:50 pm
by Crow
Thunder traded away Jerome in a salary dump move. After a good previous year, he plateaued and dipped at end. Thunder played 26 guys that year. Jerome, 5th best raw plus minus but 12th in minutes. Improper use? Tanking?
They had Joe and Waiters and incoming Jalen Williams. And Dort on a big salary jump. Did not feel they had to retain.
Good / steadily improving on Darko next season for crowded Warriors. But didn't retain.
Moved to Cleveland, presumably for more opportunity or just opportunity?
Paying off now, after knee injury.
What's next? Good chance another move. Unless Cavs make a good / perhaps big effort. More than the previous teams.
Is the process and results for letting a player go better or worse than for picking them initially? It is probably pretty good on average but "mistakes" can be glaring.
Of course it is a long season. See what Jerome does from here. In good context may have surprised defenses early. Some regression in November but still strong. Big jump in minutes is receding.
Only 9 games as a starter across career. Will any offer that? Cavs gave 2 spot starts to rest a starter for maintenance. At least 5 of those 9 were good+, 2 meh, maybe 2 bad. That is pretty good in limited test.
Waters let go in favor of big contract Joe and Wallace and Mitchell. See how that plays out comparatively. So far, ok I guess.
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:38 pm
by Mike G
Season at 29%
Code: Select all
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.22 Franz Wagner Orl .564 26.3 6.6 5.7 2.17 .566 21.0 6.6 3.1 1.46
1.12 Darius Garland Cle .614 23.6 2.9 6.3 1.59 .554 18.2 3.0 5.2 .84
1.12 Jalen Williams OKC .596 26.3 6.4 5.1 2.20 .614 21.6 4.5 3.7 1.46
.98 Karl-A Towns NYK .638 26.3 15.2 2.8 2.49 Min .615 25.2 9.5 2.6 1.86
.98 James Harden LAC .543 21.4 7.6 7.9 1.78 .600 16.7 5.4 6.4 1.20
.94 Ty Jerome * Cle .673 22.1 4.0 5.4 1.64 *GSW .589 12.3 3.3 4.6 .60
.92 Josh Hart NYK .684 13.9 8.7 4.5 1.24 .517 9.2 9.5 3.3 .74
.89 Cade Cunningham Det .546 21.4 7.6 7.8 1.72 .539 20.4 4.7 5.4 1.14
.88 Ochai Agbaji Tor .627 12.0 5.0 1.9 .60 .493 7.8 4.8 1.2 .05
.82 Santi Aldama Mem .612 17.0 9.6 3.5 1.49 .535 12.9 8.0 2.2 .90
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.81 Dennis Schröder Brk .575 17.4 3.4 6.0 1.13 .543 14.0 3.5 4.8 .60
.71 Norman Powell LAC .634 26.6 3.5 2.4 1.49 .618 18.7 3.6 1.1 .91
.67 Jaren Jackson Mem .612 27.3 7.3 1.3 2.00 .542 22.5 6.3 1.9 1.50
.67 Andrew Wiggins GSW .580 21.0 5.3 2.5 1.39 .537 15.4 6.0 1.5 .82
.62 Cody Martin Cha .534 9.9 6.9 2.7 .70 .456 7.6 5.2 3.4 .22
.61 Jaden Ivey Det .541 18.3 5.1 4.2 1.01 .527 15.8 4.4 3.2 .60
.61 Brandon Miller Cha .542 20.0 5.7 3.1 1.20 .547 16.5 4.7 1.8 .78
.61 Malik Beasley Det .587 18.2 4.0 1.9 .92 Mil .601 12.8 4.5 1.2 .50
.59 OG Anunoby NYK .593 15.9 5.3 1.7 .98 .590 14.5 4.5 1.6 .66
.55 Nikola Vučević Chi .679 21.8 10.7 2.8 1.81 .537 16.7 11.3 2.5 1.47
21-30: Dick, Hield, Herro, Paul, Jul. Champagnie, O'Neal, LaMelo, Pritchard, Cam Johnson, Sochan
Last year, Josh Hart had career low 2fg% and 3fg% -- .511 and .310. This year, career best .708 and .407
He's not shooting more often in either range, just making more of them. Other stats are not notably up or down.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... tjo01.html
He's hitting 80% of shots within 3 ft of the basket and 56% from 3 to 10 ft.
His previous 1.3 years with NY he's shown as SF/PF, and this year he's SG/SF
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:17 pm
by Mike G
Code: Select all
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.52 Darius Garland Cle .626 24.1 3.1 6.5 1.66 .554 18.2 3.0 5.2 .84
1.29 Karl-A Towns NYK .648 25.9 15.2 3.0 2.46 Min .615 25.2 9.5 2.6 1.86
1.29 Josh Hart NYK .672 14.2 8.8 4.4 1.28 .517 9.2 9.5 3.3 .74
1.22 Franz Wagner Orl .564 25.9 6.7 5.7 2.17 .566 21.0 6.6 3.1 1.46
1.07 Norman Powell LAC .632 26.8 3.7 2.4 1.55 .618 18.7 3.6 1.1 .91
1.05 Ochai Agbaji Tor .613 12.1 4.7 1.7 .58 .493 7.8 4.8 1.2 .05
1.02 C Cunningham Det .537 20.3 7.0 7.9 1.63 .539 20.4 4.7 5.4 1.14
1.01 James Harden LAC .554 21.8 7.0 7.5 1.68 .600 16.7 5.4 6.4 1.20
1.00 Santi Aldama Mem .606 16.9 9.7 3.3 1.51 .535 12.9 8.0 2.2 .90
.94 Ty Jerome Cle .629 19.4 4.0 5.6 1.46 *GSW .589 12.3 3.3 4.6 .60
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.93 Jaren Jackson Mem .598 26.3 7.4 1.8 2.03 .542 22.5 6.3 1.9 1.50
.91 Jalen Williams OKC .560 24.1 6.0 5.0 1.92 .614 21.6 4.5 3.7 1.46
.89 Jeremy Sochan SAS .585 16.9 10.4 3.0 1.42 .508 11.5 7.6 2.7 .61
.86 Malik Beasley Det .586 18.5 4.0 1.9 .97 Mil .601 12.8 4.5 1.2 .50
.86 Dennis Schröder Brk .580 17.5 3.4 6.1 1.14 .543 14.0 3.5 4.8 .60
.83 Gradey Dick Tor .552 16.9 3.9 1.9 .74 .542 12.2 3.7 1.3 .26
.77 Bilal Coulibaly Was .530 11.0 5.5 2.8 .58 .535 9.0 5.1 1.5 .18
.76 Jul. Champagnie SAS .594 14.6 6.1 1.5 .82 .563 10.8 4.9 1.7 .40
.71 Jalen Johnson Atl .577 16.8 10.3 4.3 1.50 .578 14.7 9.3 2.6 1.18
.70 V Wembanyama SAS .603 26.2 10.9 3.6 2.49 .556 22.5 12.6 3.1 2.09
#21-30: Ivey, LaMelo, Cody Martin, Hunter, A Wiggins, Suggs, Herro, Cam Johnson, Poole, Vucevic
Re: Improved from 2024 to 2025
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:53 pm
by Mike G
Using different stats. This season in the left columns, last year on the right.
PER and BPM have been converted to 'win rates', and with WS they are averaged; but with BPM weighted most and PER least. (4-3-2)
Stats are a couple days old.
Code: Select all
xyzW+ improved tm TS% PER WS/48 BPM TS% PER WS/48 BPM
2.06 Darius Garland Cle .628 21.4 .201 3.9 .554 14.5 .067 -1.0
1.91 Josh Hart NYK .672 17.7 .185 3.7 .517 11.8 .100 .0
1.80 Brandon Boston NOP .554 14.3 .055 -1.3 .470 8.7 -.040 -9.0
1.74 Karl-A Towns NYK .659 26.0 .247 5.4 .615 18.8 .148 2.5
1.37 Santi Aldama Mem .611 18.2 .179 4.1 .535 13.1 .070 -.2
1.33 Tyler Herro Mia .625 19.8 .146 3.4 .553 15.7 .068 .8
1.27 Ochai Agbaji Tor .610 11.7 .071 -1.2 .493 7.7 .002 -4.4
1.27 Cameron Johnson Brk .670 19.0 .153 4.1 .576 14.5 .100 .4
1.27 Nikola Vučević Chi .650 21.5 .167 3.3 .537 17.7 .100 .1
1.25 Jaren Jackson Mem .596 20.9 .170 3.1 .542 17.4 .067 .4
xyzW+ improved tm TS% PER WS/48 BPM TS% PER WS/48 BPM
1.25 Jordan Poole Was .595 16.9 .046 .7 .523 12.1 -.013 -3.9
1.24 Franz Wagner Orl .573 22.9 .185 6.2 .566 17.6 .131 1.2
1.15 Wembanyama SAS .612 26.1 .160 8.4 .556 23.1 .085 5.2
1.13 Andrew Wiggins GSW .571 16.7 .133 1.7 .537 12.7 .070 -2.5
1.13 Pa. Pritchard Bos .656 19.2 .210 4.4 .594 15.3 .160 1.0
1.01 Ty Jerome Cle .626 20.5 .211 3.7 .589 12.8 .124 -.8
.95 Norman Powell LAC .625 18.6 .137 2.5 .618 13.9 .099 -.8
.93 Jake LaRavia Mem .608 13.8 .136 1.5 .530 12.6 .062 -2.5
.92 Cody Martin Cha .531 12.0 .078 -1.1 .456 9.2 -.012 -3.5
.89 Jeremy Sochan SAS .582 16.8 .121 .4 .508 11.4 .030 -3.4
xyzW+ improved tm TS% PER WS/48 BPM TS% PER WS/48 BPM
.89 De'Andre Hunter Atl .640 18.2 .138 .8 .585 12.7 .062 -2.4
.88 Cade Cunningham Det .542 18.9 .089 2.7 .539 17.1 .041 .3
.85 Dillon Brooks Hou .551 11.0 .115 -1.3 .544 9.4 .058 -3.6
.83 Shai G-A OKC .638 30.2 .304 11.6 .622 29.3 .275 9.0
.81 Jaden Ivey Det .569 15.3 .060 -.6 .527 12.4 .010 -3.1
.80 Caris LeVert Cle .633 17.4 .168 3.2 .517 14.6 .088 .2
.77 Quentin Grimes Dal .618 14.2 .115 .2 .512 8.9 .060 -2.2
.74 Gradey Dick Tor .550 12.4 .037 -2.8 .542 8.9 .010 -5.4
.73 Tari Eason Hou .557 20.2 .207 5.3 .523 17.1 .125 1.6
.73 Isaiah Stewart Det .621 14.5 .141 .2 .592 11.3 .056 -2.3
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