2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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Seeing some games and series that are chock-full of future Hall of Famers -- Dal/SA most notably -- I wondered if an inordinate number of great careers are represented in this year's playoffs.

Easier to state it quantitatively: Among current players with the most career Win Shares -- http://bkref.com/tiny/so8TO -- 16 of the top 20 are with teams that made the playoffs.
Some players disappeared in midseason: Billups (Det), Terry (Brk). Besides Billups, the other 3 whose team is off for the year were Lakers : Kobe, Nash, Gasol.

Of the next 20, again 16 are in the playoffs (or their teams are). Those who missed were Knicks -- Amare, Carmelo, Chandler -- plus R Jefferson (Uta).
Looking over the 41-60 group, I don't see the pattern breaking. Do veteran teams overwhelmingly make the playoffs? Or do veterans gravitate to contenders?
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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Summaries of 1st-round series. From b-r.com, we have PER, WS/48 and WS. Alongside are eWins and (avg = 1.00) eWin rate for a series. In a regulation game, 480 player minutes are required for one win. In series with overtimes, note a rate different than per-480.
Win Shares are unadjusted for extra minutes, so overtime games generate >1.00 WS.
The eWins system is a slavedriver: you get nothing for your overtime work.

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. Tor     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER         Brk    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER
DeRozan   282   .135   .79   .83   1.41   18.3      Johnson  286   .142   .85   .75   1.26   18.7
Lowry     271   .130   .73   .79   1.40   17.6      Williams 254   .088   .47   .65   1.24   15.9
Valanc'as 200   .079   .33   .48   1.15   14.8      Pierce   210   .119   .52   .58   1.33   16.5
Patterson 199   .171   .71   .45   1.09   17.4    Livingston 167   .067   .23   .30    .87   11.6
Johnson   191   .137   .55   .43   1.09   16.3      Anderson 157   .058   .19   .12    .36    9.7
Vasquez   190   .105   .42   .46   1.16   14.6      Garnett  140   .197   .57   .53   1.82   20.3
Ross      158  -.096  -.32  -.12   -.36    1.1     Teletovic 126   .111   .29   .21    .80   15.3
Salmons    77  -.004  -.01  -.05   -.30    3.4      Blatche  109   .199   .45   .36   1.59   21.8
Hayes      38   .051   .04   .02    .21    9.1      Plumlee   87  -.003  -.01   .00    .01    5.6
Hansbrough 29   .070   .04  -.01   -.15    5.1      Thornton  73   .092   .14   .12    .78   15.2
Fields     26   .061   .03   .03    .51   11.0      Kirilenko 72   .136   .20   .06    .42   13.1
Novak      15  -.136  -.04   .01    .22   -1.0                        
De Colo     4   .050   .00  -.01   -.85   -5.6                        
. Tor    1680   .094  3.28  3.31    .95   13.9        Brk   1681   .112  3.91  3.69   1.05   15.5
     
                                     
. Ind     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER         Atl    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER
George    284   .243  1.44  1.42   2.40   24.7      Millsap  267   .153   .85  1.00   1.80   20.0
Hill      258   .122   .66   .38    .71   13.0      Korver   250   .121   .63   .54   1.04   12.3
West      249   .118   .61   .58   1.11   16.4      Carroll  246   .106   .54   .21    .42   10.0
Stephensn 240   .110   .55   .67   1.33   16.1      Teague   242   .095   .48   .73   1.45   17.3
Watson    156   .132   .43   .29    .90   13.6      Antic    170  -.097  -.34  -.18   -.50   -1.0
Hibbert   153  -.037  -.12  -.07   -.21    4.3      Scott    146   .045   .14   .21    .70   10.2
Mahinmi   125   .085   .22  -.05   -.19    6.8      Williams 133   .009   .02   .17    .63   10.5
Scola      88   .134   .25   .25   1.34   17.7      Mack     118   .182   .45   .44   1.79   19.2
Turner     63   .108   .14   .17   1.27   14.2      Brand     81   .105   .18   .10    .59    9.7
Copeland   50   .027   .03   .03    .28    7.6      Martin    15   .145   .05   .03   1.02   15.0
Butler      6  -.316  -.04  -.01   -.54  -11.2      Schrer    7   .312   .05   .12   8.26   34.2
Sloan       4  -.302  -.03  -.02  -2.05  -10.2      Muscala    5  -.438  -.05  -.01  -1.12  -16.4
Allen       4  -.257  -.02  -.01  -1.12  -10.2                        
. Ind    1680   .118  4.12  3.63   1.04   14.7        Atl   1680   .085  2.99  3.37    .96   12.6
 
                                         
. Cha     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER         Mia    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER
McRoberts 154   .095   .30   .24    .75   12.9      James    157   .345  1.13  1.14   3.50   32.6
Walker    153   .109   .35   .47   1.48   19.7      Wade     132   .130   .36   .43   1.55   17.5
Henderson 119  -.032  -.08   .09    .38    8.1      Bosh     129   .184   .49   .35   1.30   17.6
Jefferson 106   .081   .18   .30   1.37   19.4      Cole     112   .141   .33   .09    .37   11.6
Neal      104  -.164  -.36  -.04   -.18    3.4      Chalmers 103   .146   .31   .25   1.18   14.5
KGilchrist 90   .017   .03   .16    .86   12.0      Andersen  81   .279   .47  -.06   -.33   22.4
Do-Roberts 70   .209   .30   .13    .87   18.8      Allen     81  -.080  -.14   .24   1.41     .9
Zeller     53  -.010  -.01  -.02   -.22    6.8      Jones     64   .221   .29   .10    .77   17.7
Biyombo    48   .102   .10   .02    .17   11.1      Haslem    64   .034   .05   .02    .12    4.3
Ridnour    36  -.071  -.05   .05    .66   10.2      Lewis     32   .027   .02   .03    .51    7.8
Tolliver   21   .226   .10   .01    .27   15.5                        
Pargo       3  -.329  -.02   .00   -.51   -2.0                        
White       3  -.439  -.03   .00    .79   -8.8                        
. Cha     960   .041   .82  1.42    .71   12.8        Mia    955   .167  3.32  2.59   1.30   16.8
  
                                        
. Was     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e490   PER         Chi    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e490   PER
Beal      205   .185   .79   .59   1.40   18.9      Butler   218   .098   .45   .22    .49   11.9
Ariza     195   .198   .80   .56   1.41   18.4      Noah     210   .056   .25   .39    .90   13.0
Wall      194   .130   .53   .64   1.62   18.8      Hinrich  167   .004   .01   .18    .54    8.4
Gortat    180   .059   .22   .34    .92   13.2      Dunleavy 163   .122   .41   .31    .94   15.7
Hilario   144   .106   .32   .45   1.54   17.7      Gibson   154   .220   .71   .55   1.77   26.5
Booker    121   .176   .44   .23    .92   15.4      Augustin 141  -.030  -.09   .23    .79    9.8
Webster    91   .123   .23   .10    .55   12.9      Boozer   121   .035   .09   .25   1.00   12.0
Miller     52  -.012  -.01   .06    .52    9.3      Snell     46  -.074  -.07  -.03   -.34    -.1
Gooden     36   .041   .03  -.04   -.48    1.4      Mohammed   5  -.064  -.01   .00   -.23   -8.5
Harrington  7  -.455  -.07  -.01   -.96  -21.8                        
. Was    1225   .129  3.29  2.91   1.17   15.9        Chi   1225   .068  1.75  2.10    .83   13.2

                                          
. LAC     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER         GSW    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER
Jordan    257   .177   .95   .87   1.62   20.1      Curry    296   .130   .80   .81   1.32   18.9
Griffin   246   .145   .74   .90   1.76   21.9      Thompson 257   .044   .24   .35    .65   12.1
Paul      245   .150   .77   .92   1.79   20.1      Iguodala 248   .049   .25   .35    .67   12.7
Redick    205   .110   .47   .35    .82   14.8      Green    228   .109   .52   .52   1.09   16.1
Barnes    202   .078   .33   .16    .38   10.9      Lee      216   .080   .36   .48   1.07   15.6
Crawford  168   .155   .54   .43   1.22   19.8      Barnes   156   .032   .10   .10    .32   10.0
Collison  142   .113   .33   .24    .80   15.6      O'Neal    84   .117   .20   .18   1.03   18.3
Davis      78   .073   .12   .03    .17    9.9      Speights  68   .145   .21   .22   1.57   23.3
Granger    70  -.050  -.07   .00   -.02    4.0      Crawford  57  -.036  -.04   .06    .50   11.2
Turkoglu   41   .144   .12   .05    .53   15.1      Blake     45  -.064  -.06  -.04   -.45    3.3
Green      11   .081   .02   .01    .34    7.7      Armstrong 17  -.217  -.08   .01    .17    5.2
Dudley      9   .176   .03   .01    .57   17.5      Kuzmic     8   .098   .02   .00    .03    5.7
Hollins     6   .250   .03   .01    .81   20.3                        
. LAC    1680   .125  4.38  3.96   1.13   16.8        GS    1680   .072  2.52  3.04    .87   14.6
 
                                         
. Hou     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e505   PER         Por    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e505   PER
Harden    263   .110   .60   .72   1.39   18.5      Lillard  268   .228  1.27   .89   1.67   23.8
Parsons   250   .103   .54   .44    .88   14.9      Batum    258   .108   .58   .48    .93   16.5
Howard    231   .184   .89  1.13   2.48   27.2      Aldridge 247   .197  1.01  1.09   2.22   27.8
Beverley  202   .048   .20   .04    .10    8.9      Matthews 239  -.010  -.05   .04    .09    9.2
Lin       177   .038   .14   .22    .62   12.4      Lopez    198   .102   .42   .33    .85   15.9
Asik      163   .026   .09   .11    .35    9.0      Williams 151  -.040  -.13  -.04   -.13    6.2
Jones     138   .139   .40   .30   1.08   17.8      Wright    79   .072   .12   .12    .75   14.4
Daniels    68   .208   .29   .08    .62   17.4      Robinson  58   .038   .05   .07    .59   13.2
Garcia     22   .028   .01  -.01   -.33    6.4      Freeland  15  -.084  -.03  -.01   -.26     .4
. Hou    1514   .100  3.16  3.03   1.01   15.9        Por   1513   .103  3.25  2.97    .99   17.0
 
                                         
. Okl     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e509   PER         Mem    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e509   PER
Durant    324   .151  1.02  1.41   2.21   20.8      Gasol    299   .065   .40   .70   1.19   14.8
Westbrook 285   .122   .72  1.50   2.67   21.3      Conley   267   .087   .48   .81   1.54   17.8
Ibaka     263   .214  1.17   .65   1.26   18.8      Randolph 234   .018   .09   .51   1.11   13.8
Butler    196   .111   .45   .03    .08    8.9      Allen    230   .094   .45   .39    .85   15.5
Jackson   188   .165   .65   .45   1.21   16.2      Lee      224   .045   .21   .05    .12    9.1
Perkins   156   .112   .36   .07    .24    8.4      Miller   173   .084   .30   .09    .27   10.2
Fisher    110   .110   .25   .00   -.01    9.4      Udrih    115   .033   .08   .16    .73   13.3
Sefolosha  97   .090   .18   .03    .18    9.0      Prince   113  -.001   .00  -.08   -.36    5.2
Collison   80   .145   .24   .02    .13    9.7      Koufos    45   .116   .11   .09   1.00   19.0
Adams      67   .063   .09  -.04   -.33    5.5      Johnson   28   .159   .09   .06   1.09   21.5
Lamb        7  -.171  -.02  -.01   -.42   -7.3      Davis     25  -.028  -.01   .05    .99   16.8
Jones       4   .081   .01   .00   -.62    3.7      Leuer     23   .251   .12   .06   1.30   22.2
Thabeet     4   .042   .00  -.02  -1.99  -13.9      Franklin   4  -.426  -.04   .00   -.42  -10.3
. Okl    1780   .138  5.13  4.09   1.17   15.1        Mem   1780   .062  2.29  2.89    .83   13.6

                                          
. SAS     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER         Dal    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e480   PER
Duncan    244   .198  1.01   .77   1.52   22.2      Nowitzki 263   .011   .06   .58   1.06   14.2
Parker    231   .017   .08   .61   1.26   16.1      Ellis    249   .048   .25   .50    .97   15.6
Leonard   229   .067   .32   .34    .71   12.9      Marion   193   .057   .23   .25    .63   12.6
Ginobili  192   .184   .74   .79   1.97   24.5      Calderon 191   .084   .33   .27    .69   13.1
Splitter  192   .264  1.06   .68   1.70   22.6      Carter   190   .141   .56   .39    .97   17.6
Diaw      162   .156   .53   .28    .82   15.7      Harris   175   .091   .33   .35    .95   15.8
Green     151   .150   .47   .28    .89   15.8     Dalembert 135   .145   .41   .35   1.24   17.1
Mills     114  -.019  -.05   .08    .33    8.7      Wright    90   .224   .42   .23   1.20   21.9
Belinelli  94  -.015  -.03  -.05   -.28    4.2      Blair     81   .253   .43   .36   2.14   28.7
Bonner     31   .055   .04  -.03   -.46    6.1      Crowder   81   .034   .06  -.02   -.12    6.9
Joseph     15   .046   .01   .02    .66   11.6      Ellington 14   .023   .01   .03    .94   13.3
Ayres      13  -.224  -.06  -.03   -.99   -7.9      Larkin    10  -.382  -.08  -.01   -.51   -9.3
Baynes      6   .055   .01   .00   -.14    4.8      James      8   .130   .02   .00   -.23   11.9
Daye        6  -.347  -.04  -.01   -.65  -11.1                        
. SAS    1680   .116  4.08  3.72   1.06   16.5        Dal   1680   .086  3.02  3.27    .94   15.5
A few players with zero-2 minutes were dropped; and a minute is added or removed from some players, to get team total minutes.
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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For those interested, I've posted the Top-30 Playoff-Performers through the first-round. Ratings are sorted by Per-Game production, with Per-Minute numbers on the left to compare. The "HDR" metric I'm using is just a RAPM-SPM, so the numbers should be on a RAPM scale. Opponent strength is accounted for using regular-season SRS (unlike some who use Playoffs only).

http://hoopdon.weebly.com/1/post/2014/0 ... m-spm.html
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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I'll see your 30 and raise you 20. Per game eWins (per team game played) --

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eW/G    per36 rates    tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.286   LeBron James    Mia   39  .652   37.3   8.4   7.1   1.6   2.1   2.8   .2   3.50
.214 Russell Westbrook Okl   41  .471   23.6   9.3   9.2   2.6   1.4   4.5   .5   2.67
.203   Paul George     Ind   41  .593   28.1   9.6   3.8   2.4   2.2   2.3   .5   2.40
.201   Kevin Durant    Okl   46  .533   25.8   8.1   3.3   1.6    .7   3.2  1.2   2.21
.189   Dwight Howard   Hou   39  .565   23.7  14.1   1.7   4.0    .6   3.2  2.7   2.48

.181 LaMarcus Aldridge Por   41  .536   22.9   9.1   1.9   3.2    .6   1.1  2.4   2.22
.148   Damian Lillard  Por   45  .648   20.7   4.7   5.4   2.7   1.1   1.9   .1   1.67
.143   Paul Millsap    Atl   38  .530   21.6  11.1   2.9   3.4   1.4   2.9  1.8   1.80
.131   Chris Paul      LAC   35  .547   18.3   5.2  10.3   4.0   3.3   3.8   .0   1.79
.129   Blake Griffin   LAC   35  .553   24.1   6.8   4.0   4.2   1.6   2.7   .9   1.76

eW/G    per36 rates    tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.128   John Wall       Was   39  .470   19.1   4.6   7.5   2.3   2.1   2.3   .4   1.62
.124   DeAndre Jordan  LAC   37  .649   13.3  15.8   1.0   3.0    .4   2.0  4.0   1.62
.121   James Harden    Hou   44  .509   19.8   4.2   5.0   2.9   1.7   3.1   .1   1.39
.118   DeMar DeRozan   Tor   40  .534   22.5   4.2   3.6   3.0   1.0   2.5   .3   1.41
.118   Kemba Walker    Cha   38  .609   21.5   4.3   5.7   1.4   1.9   3.9   .6   1.48

.118   Bradley Beal    Was   41  .563   21.3   4.3   4.3   2.8    .9   1.4   .5   1.40
.116   Stephen Curry   GSW   42  .588   20.0   3.3   7.0   2.2   1.5   3.3   .1   1.32
.116   Mike Conley     Mem   38  .483   15.2   4.4   7.7   1.9   1.9   2.1   .1   1.54
.113   Kyle Lowry      Tor   39  .554   21.3   5.0   5.0   3.6    .8   2.9   .0   1.40
.112   Trevor Ariza    Was   39  .624   18.8   8.5   2.4   2.0   1.1   1.1   .6   1.41

eW/G    per36 rates    tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.112   Manu Ginobili   SAS   27  .599   25.3   5.0   6.1   3.1   2.9   4.3   .2   1.97
.111   Taj Gibson      Chi   31  .607   25.8   7.5    .5   2.7    .5   1.9  2.7   1.77
.111   Tim Duncan      SAS   35  .599   18.3   9.4   1.5   2.7    .2    .8  1.9   1.52
.107   Joe Johnson     Brk   41  .594   21.3   3.5   2.8   1.5    .5   1.5   .3   1.26
.107   Dwyane Wade     Mia   33  .538   22.5   4.0   5.9   3.3   1.4   2.8   .3   1.55

.104   Jeff Teague     Atl   35  .519   23.2   4.2   5.7   2.3   1.1   3.3   .6   1.45
.100   Marc Gasol      Mem   43  .455   13.7   6.6   3.9   3.3   1.5   1.5   .7   1.19
.097   Tiago Splitter  SAS   27  .658   16.4  12.8   3.3   4.4   1.3   1.2   .2   1.70
.095  Lance Stephenson Ind   34  .552   19.8   9.5   3.0   2.7    .9   3.0   .4   1.33
.093   Deron Williams  Brk   36  .529   18.3   2.4   6.6   3.2   1.4   2.7   .1   1.24

eW/G    per36 rates    tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.093   Serge Ibaka     Okl   38  .641   13.5   9.2    .7   3.1    .8   1.0  2.5   1.26
.090   Nene Hilario    Was   29  .530   21.2   7.0   4.0   4.8   1.5   2.3   .8   1.54
.087   Chris Bosh      Mia   32  .624   18.1   6.7   2.4   3.1    .9    .9  1.2   1.30
.087   Tony Parker     SAS   33  .509   21.7   3.0   6.0   1.9    .5   3.6   .2   1.26
.083   Dirk Nowitzki   Dal   38  .473   16.6   8.4   1.6   2.8    .8   2.2   .8   1.06

.083   Paul Pierce     Brk   30  .580   18.3   6.0   3.5   4.2   1.8   2.4   .7   1.33
.083   David West      Ind   36  .517   15.3   7.1   4.6   2.9   1.3   2.7  1.6   1.11
.079   Nicolas Batum   Por   43  .540   11.5   4.5   4.7   1.7   1.1    .9   .6    .93
.078   Joakim Noah     Chi   42  .525   10.1  11.7   4.3   3.3    .7   3.4  1.2    .90
.077   Kyle Korver     Atl   36  .658   21.0   5.8    .8   2.2    .6   1.7   .3   1.04

eW/G    per36 rates    tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk   e484
.076   Kevin Garnett   Brk   20  .596   17.7  11.2   3.1   4.5   1.1   1.4  1.3   1.82
.075   Al Jefferson    Cha   27  .505   15.3  11.5    .8   2.4    .3    .4  1.4   1.37
.074   Draymond Green  GSW   33  .576   12.8   9.7   3.1   5.2   1.9   2.8  1.9   1.09
.073   Zach Randolph   Mem   33  .438   15.2   8.1   2.3   2.0    .8   1.6   .2   1.11
.073  Chandler Parsons Hou   42  .516   13.7   6.5   2.1   2.8    .6    .8   .3    .88

.072   Monta Ellis     Dal   36  .502   19.8   2.7   3.0   2.8   1.3   2.3   .1    .97
.069   David Lee       GSW   31  .561   15.8  11.5   3.0   4.8    .7   3.0   .0   1.07
.068 Jonas Valanciunas Tor   29  .633   16.3  14.1    .4   4.1    .0   3.8  1.3   1.15
.067   Marcin Gortat   Was   36  .422   10.6  10.3   2.2   2.0    .6   1.9  2.0    .92
.065   Greivis Vasquez Tor   27  .518   13.3   5.3   7.7   4.0    .7   2.0   .2   1.16
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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Players with at least 150 playoff minutes who have averaged 30 pts, 8 reb, and 6 ast:

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30-8-6    yr    tm    Min    PPG    RPG   APG
Oscar    1963   Cin   570   31.8   13.0   9.0
Erving   1972   VaA   504   33.3   20.4   6.5
McGinnis 1975   InA   731   32.3   15.9   8.2
LeBron   2009   Cle   580   35.3    9.1   7.3
Durant   2013   Okl   485   30.8    9.0   6.3
LeBron   2014   Mia   157   30.0    8.0   6.0
Players who have averaged 25-9-8 over 200+ minutes:

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25-9-8     yr    tm    Min    PPG    RPG   APG
Oscar     1963   Cin   570   31.8   13.0   9.0
McGinnis  1975   InA   731   32.3   15.9   8.2
Bird      1986   Bos   770   25.9    9.3   8.2
Westbrook 2014   Okl   285   25.6    9.7   8.0
Players with at least 280 minutes, scoring 23 PPG on .590 TS% with 10 Reb/G and 4.5 Ast/G

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23-10-4.5  yr    tm    Min    TS%    PPG    RPG   APG
Kareem    1979   LAL   367   .636   28.5   12.6   4.8
Bird      1984   Bos   961   .607   27.5   11.0   5.9
Barkley   1986   Phl   497   .631   25.0   15.8   5.6
Barkley   1991   Phl   326   .630   24.9   10.5   6.0
George    2014   Ind   284   .595   23.9   10.7   4.6
Durant is averaging 29.9 - 9.6 - 3.4. Other players to have done this over as many minutes: Baylor (4 times), Oscar (1), Kareem (3), Hakeem (1), and LeBron(1)

These guys will end up with some other per game averages. Dwight Howard is done, with 231 minutes; and averages that are matched only by these:

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26-13.5-2.5  yr    tm    Min    PPG    RPG   BPG
Kareem      1977   LAL   467   34.6   17.7   3.5 
Duncan      2002   SAS   380   27.6   14.4   4.3
Shaq        2003   LAL   481   27.0   14.8   2.8
Dwight      2014   Hou   231   26.0   13.7   2.8
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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Why did all centers play so badly in the Atl-Ind series? Hibbert, Mahinmi, Antic, and Brand were about the 4 worst players in that series.
Pacers went centerless for about 5 mpg. Hawks more like 12 mpg -- including Brand as C for 12 mpg.
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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A few posts up, there's a long one that shows each 1st-round series, competing teams side by side:

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. Hou     Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e505   PER         Por    Min   WS/48   WS    eW   e505   PER
Harden    263   .110   .60   .72   1.39   18.5      Lillard  268   .228  1.27   .89   1.67   23.8
Parsons   250   .103   .54   .44    .88   14.9      Batum    258   .108   .58   .48    .93   16.5
Howard    231   .184   .89  1.13   2.48   27.2      Aldridge 247   .197  1.01  1.09   2.22   27.8
Beverley  202   .048   .20   .04    .10    8.9      Matthews 239  -.010  -.05   .04    .09    9.2
Lin       177   .038   .14   .22    .62   12.4      Lopez    198   .102   .42   .33    .85   15.9
Asik      163   .026   .09   .11    .35    9.0      Williams 151  -.040  -.13  -.04   -.13    6.2
Jones     138   .139   .40   .30   1.08   17.8      Wright    79   .072   .12   .12    .75   14.4
Daniels    68   .208   .29   .08    .62   17.4      Robinson  58   .038   .05   .07    .59   13.2
Garcia     22   .028   .01  -.01   -.33    6.4      Freeland  15  -.084  -.03  -.01   -.26     .4
For all 190 or so players, correlations with MPG:
PER : .550
eW/Min: .448
ws/Min: .418

For 126 players who averaged at least 10 mpg in the first round:
eW/Min: .492
PER : .394
WS/Min: .175
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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After round 1, Ray Allen had the lowest WS (-.135) of any player from an advancing team.
After one game in round 2, he had .078 WS -- a gain of .213 WS in 26 minutes of play. That's a .393 WS/48 rate.
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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Through 3 games vs Por, Duncan, Leonard, Splitter, Green, and Belinelli have a combined 2 turnovers in 400 minutes.

Belinelli is another who was about the worst player on his team in round 1, and about the best in round 2. Kawhi Leonard and Patty Mills have also made great turnarounds.
Ginobili led the Spurs in round 1 and is inconsequential in the last 3 games.
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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Leaders after 3 games in round 2:

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eWins  per36 rates    tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.62   Chris Paul      LAC   34  .729   29.4   3.7  12.7   4.0   2.2   2.0   .0   2.93
.57 Russell Westbrook Okl   36  .675   30.5   7.9   8.6   2.7   1.0   4.2   .0   2.52
.56   LeBron James    Mia   38  .632   27.9   6.6   4.6   1.9   1.0   1.6   .6   2.34
.52   Kevin Durant    Okl   41  .596   26.4   7.4   5.5   2.3    .9   2.7   .6   2.02
.52   Tony Parker     SAS   36  .565   31.1   3.4   8.2   2.7   1.0   3.9   .0   2.41

.41   Roy Hibbert     Ind   27  .700   28.7   7.2   1.1   5.5    .0    .0  3.2   2.40
.40   Kawhi Leonard   SAS   30  .684   23.6   9.8    .4   3.3   2.9    .0   .8   2.24
.37   Dwyane Wade     Mia   35  .511   18.3   5.6   7.2   3.2   2.5   2.5   .4   1.71
.36   Blake Griffin   LAC   36  .558   22.4   7.2   3.6   4.0    .7   2.2  1.3   1.59
.36   Paul George     Ind   42  .468   17.6   6.5   4.7   2.9   1.7   2.5   .3   1.35

eWins  per36 rates    tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.35   Bradley Beal    Was   42  .492   19.3   4.1   4.6   2.9   2.3   3.1   .9   1.32
.34   George Hill     Ind   34  .631   20.3   5.3   3.9   2.5   1.4    .8   .4   1.62
.32   Chris Bosh      Mia   35  .549   15.6   9.5   1.4   1.1    .4    .4  2.1   1.47
.31   Joe Johnson     Brk   35  .689   20.5   4.6   3.9   1.4    .3   1.1   .3   1.41
.29   Trevor Ariza    Was   37  .667   16.1   9.1    .6   2.0   2.0    .7   .0   1.28

.28   Ray Allen       Mia   27  .719   21.8   7.1   3.2   2.5    .4   1.2   .4   1.65
.28 LaMarcus Aldridge Por   41  .434   16.3  11.3   1.0   3.3    .9   2.6   .3   1.17
.27   Tim Duncan      SAS   33  .494   14.2   8.9   2.9   2.2    .4    .4  1.8   1.39
.23   Serge Ibaka     Okl   30  .719   20.9   8.3    .4   4.2    .4   2.5  1.6   1.22
.22   Marcin Gortat   Was   34  .487   14.6  12.2   1.1   2.1    .0   2.7  1.1   1.03
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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A more comprehensive look at players who have turned it around, at least for now, from the 1st round to the 2nd:

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e480+   round 2      tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e480  rd1: Eff%  Sco   Reb   Ast   e480
2.61  Roy Hibbert    Ind   27  .700   28.7   7.2   1.1   2.40      .397   7.2   6.5    .7   -.21
2.01  Patrick Mills  SAS   11  .771   35.4   1.8   2.6   2.34      .456  10.9   3.8   3.3    .33
1.98  Ray Allen      Mia   27  .719   21.8   7.1   3.2   1.65      .342   4.2   5.0   3.5   -.33
1.70 Marco Belinelli SAS   22  .860   24.2   2.0   1.4   1.43      .458   6.1   4.9    .8   -.28
1.53  Kawhi Leonard  SAS   30  .684   23.6   9.8    .4   2.24      .546  13.0   8.8   1.2    .71

1.15  Tony Parker    SAS   36  .565   31.1   3.4   8.2   2.41      .509  21.7   3.0   6.0   1.26
1.14  Chris Paul     LAC   34  .729   29.4   3.7  12.7   2.93      .547  18.3   5.2  10.3   1.79
1.07  Glen Davis     LAC   12  .818   20.1  10.2    .9   1.24      .500   6.5   6.5   2.3    .17
.93   Ian Mahinmi    Ind   15  .714   10.7   7.7    .0    .74      .404   2.6   7.1    .3   -.19
.92   George Hill    Ind   34  .631   20.3   5.3   3.9   1.62      .552  15.4   3.5   3.7    .71
And even more (due to increased competition) have turned around and not in a good way:

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e480-  round 2         tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e480  rd1: Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e480
1.48  Reggie Jackson   Okl   24  .440    7.9   3.0   3.4  -.27      .625   18.7   6.5   3.1   1.21
1.18  Nene Hilario     Was   34  .363   11.9   4.8   1.5   .37      .530   21.2   7.0   4.0   1.54
1.16  LeBron James     Mia   38  .632   27.9   6.6   4.6  2.34      .652   37.3   8.4   7.1   3.50
1.08  Damian Lillard   Por   41  .449   14.1   3.8   4.1   .59      .648   20.7   4.7   5.4   1.67
1.07  Martell Webster  Was   16  .313    2.3   3.3   1.5  -.53      .574   12.1   4.1    .9    .55

1.06 LaMarcus Aldridge Por   41  .434   16.3  11.3   1.0  1.17      .536   22.9   9.1   1.9   2.22
1.04  Paul George      Ind   42  .468   17.6   6.5   4.7  1.35      .593   28.1   9.6   3.8   2.40
1.03  DeAndre Jordan   LAC   32  .600    8.9  10.4    .4   .59      .649   13.3  15.8   1.0   1.62
.99   Manu Ginobili    SAS   25  .421   13.6   5.4   6.2   .97      .599   25.3   5.0   6.1   1.97
.98   John Wall        Was   39  .362    9.7   3.0   7.6   .64      .470   19.1   4.6   7.5   1.62

e480-  round 2         tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast  e480  rd1: Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   e480
.87   Paul Pierce      Brk   31  .556   14.3   6.7   1.3   .46      .580   18.3   6.0   3.5   1.33
.75   Tiago Splitter   SAS   29  .522    9.8   9.2   2.0   .95      .658   16.4  12.8   3.3   1.70
.68   Deron Williams   Brk   35  .400    7.2   5.4   7.6   .55      .529   18.3   2.4   6.6   1.24
.68   Kevin Garnett    Brk   20  .438    7.9  16.9   2.6  1.13      .596   17.7  11.2   3.1   1.82
.65   Andre Miller     Was    9  .500   16.3   2.5    .0  -.13      .435   13.3   2.8   3.9    .52
.63   Darren Collison  LAC   19  .409    7.7   2.7   4.8   .17      .515   15.0   2.5   5.4    .80
Some at the top of these lists have seemed to be different players from the 1st round to the 2nd.
Not listed are those with <10 mpg in round 1.
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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I'm not someone that often complains about a coaches' rotations, thinking they, for the most part, know better what they're doing. But why why why is Scott Brooks playing Caron Butler. Butler can't defend a chair, yet he's put on Jamal Crawford. Adams over Nick Collison? It almost feels like Brooks is trying to loose the series
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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Well, let's assume nobody is trying to lose. But I was thinking along the same lines: Are coaches such geniuses that they know immediately upon starting a series, that a given player is in or out of the rotation?
We hear about "bad matchups" and such; and we also see players whose performance seems to change dramatically between series.

A commenter during yesterday's game said Caron Butler excels at both ends of the floor. Maybe he meant 'equally good at both ends' -- he's been crap on offense.
Nick Collison missed the easiest shot of the game, late, point blank at the rim. Maybe he doesn't feel good.

I just thought OKC devolved into guys going 1-on-1. A couple of superhero types.
Ibaka was 2-2 from the arc and 0-3 inside it.
Durant and Westbrook took 58 of 92 shots, or 63%
Clipps deserved to win, Thunders didn't.

P.S. -- Is Doc Rivers a genius? What was up with Danny Granger playing most of the 4th, while DeAndre sat? He didn't score or pass, and he didn't stop anybody, except with a few fouls. But the team did great.
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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J.E. wrote:I'm not someone that often complains about a coaches' rotations, thinking they, for the most part, know better what they're doing. But why why why is Scott Brooks playing Caron Butler. Butler can't defend a chair, yet he's put on Jamal Crawford. Adams over Nick Collison? It almost feels like Brooks is trying to loose the series
I was harping on Randy Whitman all game yesterday for his insistence on trotting out Gooden/Harrington all 4th Q. They make a lot of mistakes. Vogel has all the evidence he needs that Evan Turner has brought AIDS into the Pacers lockerroom, and yet he hasn't been completely banished from the rotation.

Doc Rivers, who I am quite fond of, continues to get smashed w/ Collison paired with Paul (against OKC), and JJ Redick can basically only guard Thabo. He's also been overly conservative with foul trouble, given the lack of depth with his bigs. Brooks makes multiple mistakes constantly, some of the ones you mention aren't even the most egregious - to me, the simple lack of staggering RWB and Durant's rest is mind blowing, given its the easiest adjustment he can make which would immediately improve "2nd unit" performance. And so on and so on.

Realistically I trust what Pop does through and through, if he does or does not play a guy (game 1 cameo, Aron Baynes!) it's almost certainly optimal, if he matches up various players it's likely the best play, and if he funnels offense in a certain manner it's for a reason. Spo has gotten much better (James Jones in the 1st round!) and is not afraid to try things. It's not a coincidence those are the two teams that are fated to play again in the finals.
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Re: 2014 playoff summaries and misc.

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... the simple lack of staggering RWB and Durant's rest is mind blowing...
Even when both guys are in the game, they each carry an enormous work load. It's amazing that they aren't exhausted in every 4th quarter.

Maybe Brooks feels that the alternatives are :
(a) stagger their breaks; when one guy rests, the other's work load is at least doubled.
(b) rest them together; let various groups of subs mix it up, perhaps tire out and/or confuse the opponent which has prepared to compete against the 2 stars.

With (b), both stars come back rested and ready to take over the game.
In this series (5 games) KD and RW play 33% of OKC minutes; take 54% of est. true shot attempts; score 57% of points;
also get 32% of rebounds, 70% of assists, 52% of steals.

[change of topic alert]
What's all the hubub about the "game deciding" call on the late Reggie Jackson/Matt Barnes interaction? It should have been a foul; no way should it be Clippers ball out.
The refs didn't have the option to fix their non-call; they could have made it much worse, and they opted not to.
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