Playoff Win Shares, by franchise and era

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Playoff Win Shares, by franchise and era

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Looking at some dynastic teams, and who has gotten credit for the most playoff wins, via Win Shares:
http://bkref.com/tiny/pNwGp
Spurs with Robinson and before Duncan; with their twin towers; after Robinson

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1990-97    Min   WS/48   WS    pct
Robinson  2084   .189   8.21   .32
Elliott   1904   .095   3.77   .14
Avery     1315   .104   2.85   .11
Cummings   966   .121   2.44   .09

Del Negro  966   .090   1.81   .07
Rodman     573   .149   1.78   .07
Anderson   956   .078   1.55   .06
Reid       485   .124   1.25   .05
Person     542   .105   1.19   .05


1998-03    Min   WS/48   WS    pct
Duncan    3034   .233  14.73   .30
Robinson  2137   .209   9.30   .19
Rose      1362   .116   3.29   .07
Avery     1420   .110   3.25   .07

Daniels    818   .146   2.49   .05
Elliott    932   .117   2.27   .05
Bowen     1095   .094   2.14   .04
Ginobili   660   .152   2.09   .04

Parker    1155   .070   1.68   .03
Elie       641   .106   1.42   .03
S Jackson  811   .077   1.30   .03


2004-11    Min   WS/48   WS    pct
Duncan    3918   .173  14.12   .25
Ginobili  3165   .188  12.40   .22
Parker    3861   .080   6.44   .11
Horry     1568   .156   5.10   .09
Bowen     2881   .066   3.96   .07

Barry     1308   .117   3.19   .06
Finley    1483   .099   3.06   .05
Oberto     802   .134   2.24   .04
Nazr       622   .167   2.16   .04
Hill       609   .097   1.23   .02
The pct column is actually the % of WS by all players with more than 200 minutes.
That's just how I did it. The proportions are still close.
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Re: Playoff Win Shares, by franchise and era

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Lakers with Kobe, with and without Shaq

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1997-04  Min  WS/48   WS  pct     2004-11   Min  WS/48   WS  pct
Shaq    4993   .222  23.1  33      Kobe    3609   .178  13.4  26
Kobe    4556   .142  13.5  19      Gasol   3038   .189  12.0  23
Fisher  3027   .117   7.4  11      Odom    2980   .124   7.7  15
Horry   2954   .114   7.0  10      Fisher  2377   .097   4.8   9
Fox     2389   .089   4.4   6      Bynum   1338   .129   3.6   7

E Jones  759   .159   2.5   4      Ariza    767   .144   2.3   5
George  1187   .081   2.0   3      Artest  1126   .078   1.8   4
Shaw    1151   .078   1.9   3      S Brown  766   .072   1.1   2
Rice    1073   .075   1.7   2      Walton  1148   .048   1.1   2
Malone   798   .079   1.3   2      Vujacic  954   .057   1.1   2

R Harper 685   .090   1.3   2      Farmar  1035   .042    .9   2
Grant    423   .116   1.0   1    Radmanovic 481   .076    .8   1
Payton   773   .061   1.0   1      K Brown  358   .053    .4   1
AC Green 429   .071    .6   1      Turiaf   260   .032    .2   0
Van Exel 720   .041    .6   1      Parker   317  -.042   -.3  -1
Campbell 458   .053    .5   1                     
Playoff Win Shares may be their most appropriate form. Winning is everything, WS loves a winner, so ...
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Re: Playoff Win Shares, by franchise and era

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The Jordan Bulls
The first block contains Grant and Pippen's rookie campaigns.
From the 1st 3-peat to the 2nd, only Jordan and Pippen continued.

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85-88   WS/48   WS  pct    89-94   WS/48  WS  pct     95-98   WS/48  WS  pct
Jordan   .205  3.7  55    Jordan   .271  21.4  31    Jordan   .250  14.7  28
Oakley   .098  1.2  18    Grant    .169  13.4  19    Pippen   .166   9.4  18
Grant    .164  1.0  15    Pippen   .142  11.9  17    Kukoc    .156   6.1  12
Greenwd  .082   .2   4   Armstrong .128   5.1   7    Harper   .158   5.3  10
Corzine  .018   .2   3    Paxson   .113   5.1   7    Rodman   .108   4.2   8

Paxson   .026   .2   3  Cartwright .068   4.0   6    Kerr     .152   4.1   8
Pippen   .016   .1   1    Williams .107   2.1   3    Longley  .089   2.8   5
Sellers  .022   .1   1    Perdue   .108   1.3   2    Buechler .114   1.0   2
Banks    .028   .1   1    Hodges   .044   1.1   2    Dele     .132    .9   2
Dailey   .030   .1   1  Levingston .114    .9   1   Armstrong .126    .8   1

Woolridg .010   .1   1    Kukoc    .179    .7   1    Burrell  .132    .7   1
Sparrow  .005   .0   0    King     .048    .7   1  Wennington .078    .7   1
Vincent -.059  -.3  -5    Nealy    .104    .5   1    Caffey   .117    .4   1
.                         Tucker   .084    .4   1    Brown    .055    .3   1
In the '85 playoffs (1-3 to Mil), Jordan had .7 of 1.3 team WS. In '86 (0-3 to Bos), he had .5, and everyone else totaled -.1. In '87, .4 of .8
I left '88 in the 'early' block, even though the Bulls got to round 2. They went down quickly then, finishing 4-5. And thereafter they'd be contenders; giving Det 5 of their 7 playoff losses the next 2 years.
Recall that Jordan was absent in '94.
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Re: Playoff Win Shares, by franchise and era

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Nowitzki Mavs
Divided into the Nash era, the Harris era, and the Kidd era:

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2001-04  WS/48   WS  pct   2005-07 WS/48   WS  pct   2008-11 WS/48  WS  pct
Dirk     .199   7.0  37    Dirk    .196   7.2  31    Dirk    .226   7.8  33
Nash     .103   3.5  18    Howard  .119   3.7  16    Kidd    .117   3.8  16
Finley   .082   3.1  16    Terry   .101   3.3  14    Terry   .119   3.4  14
Najera   .105   1.3   7    Dampier .140   2.3  10   Chandler .188   2.7  11

Van Exel .062   1.2   6    Stack   .061   1.6   7    Bass    .211   1.4   6
LaFrentz .074   1.1   6    Diop    .136   1.5   7    Marion  .074   1.3   5
Bell     .121    .8   4    Harris  .066   1.1   5    Haywood .145   1.3   5
Bradley  .060    .7   3    Griffin .142   1.0   4    Barea   .073   1.1   5

Juwan    .020    .2   1    Finley  .066    .7   3    Peja    .073    .5   2
Walt W   .022    .1   1    Daniels .072    .6   2    Butler  .096    .4   2
.                          VanHorn .045    .2   1    DeShawn .042    .3   1
.                                                    Dampier .019    .2   1
.                                                    Howard -.012   -.1   0
Some of Dirk's co-stars really haven't stepped up in the playoffs.
That, and Win Shares were just about made for him.
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Re: Playoff Win Shares, by franchise and era

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The Utah Jazz after Dantley
Before, with, and after Hornacek.

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1986-93  WS/48   WS  Pct    1994-00  WS/48   WS  Pct    2001-10  WS/48   WS  Pct
Stockton .167   7.8  29     Malone   .167  14.2  25     Deron W  .148   5.5  23
Malone   .137   7.0  26     Stockton .157  11.5  20     Boozer   .107   3.8  16
Eaton    .093   3.6  14     Hornacek .147  10.2  18     Millsap  .144   2.9  12
J Malone .078   1.8   7     Russell  .140   7.9  14    Kirilenko .093   2.6  11
Bailey   .063   1.7   6     Ostertag .119   3.6   6     Okur     .105   2.4  10

Corbin   .109   1.4   5     Anderson .084   1.7   3     Stockton .167   1.7   7
Hansen   .064   1.3   5     Eisley   .064   1.6   3     Harpring .069   1.2   5
M Brown  .067    .9   4     Morris   .106   1.6   3     Korver   .078   1.0   4
Edwards  .044    .6   2     Keefe    .126   1.5   3     Brewer   .093   1.0   4
Benoit   .052    .4   2     Carr     .064   1.4   2     Fisher   .097    .9   4

.                           Spencer  .063   1.0   2     Malone   .040    .5   2
.                           Foster   .039    .6   1     Miles    .027    .2   1
.                           Corbin   .073    .6   1               
.                           Benoit   .030    .5   1               
                                       
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