2023 Playoffs, East Conf. round 1

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Re: 2023 Playoffs, East Conf. round 1

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Knicks 4 - 1 Cavs
avg score 99.6 - 94.2
Pyth wins 3.39 - 1.61 , eWins 2.94 - 2.06

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.77   Jalen Brunson   NY   38  .526   25.7   4.6   5.2   2.0   2.8   .2   1.97
.70 Donovan Mitchell Cle   41  .513   21.3   4.3   6.4   1.9   3.5   .5   1.62
.49   RJ Barrett      NY   34  .530   20.5   5.2   3.4   1.4   1.8   .2   1.38
.47   Mi. Robinson    NY   28  .597   11.5  14.5   1.4   1.5    .9  2.9   1.62
.45  Darius Garland  Cle   38  .557   21.8   1.7   4.9   1.7   3.6   .2   1.15

.38   Julius Randle   NY   29  .429   18.6   9.3   4.3   1.0   4.6   .3   1.26
.30   Caris LeVert   Cle   34  .540   15.8   4.8   2.8    .5   1.1   .2    .85
.29   Josh Hart       NY   35  .637   14.1   9.1   1.6   1.1   2.7   .2    .80
.25   Jarrett Allen  Cle   38  .603    9.4   7.0   2.3    .8    .6  1.0    .64
.25   Obi Toppin      NY   17  .562   17.8   7.6   2.2   2.2   1.9   .8   1.40

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.21   Evan Mobley    Cle   38  .471    9.1   9.6   2.0    .6   2.4  1.2    .55
.18  Is. Hartenstein  NY   20  .488    7.7  10.6   3.8   1.6   2.0  1.4    .86
.10   Isaac Okoro    Cle   15  .615   16.3   3.2   1.9   1.0   1.9   .9    .64
.08   Im. Quickley    NY   24  .489   13.3   3.0   2.3    .5   1.7   .0    .33
.05   Cedi Osman     Cle   19  .508   10.7   5.4   1.9    .8   1.9   .4    .25

.03  Quentin Grimes   NY   12  .379    5.6   6.7   2.0   1.7   1.4  1.2    .25
-.04  Danny Green    Cle    8  .300    1.7   5.7    .8   1.8   1.7   .8   -.45
shooting : Cle .537 - .516 NYK
rebounds: NYK 45.4 - 37.2 Cle
turnovers: NYK 15.2 - 15.8 Cle


Heat 4 - 1 Bucks
avg score 124.0 - 118.8
Pyth wins 3.20 - 1.80 , eWins 2.85 - 2.15

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e490
1.24  Jimmy Butler   Mia   37  .657   37.0   6.5   3.9   1.8   2.4   .4   3.26
.55  Khris Middleton Mil   35  .589   23.2   6.4   5.3    .6   3.6   .0   1.57
.49   Bam Adebayo    Mia   32  .494   17.7  10.9   4.8   1.9   4.1   .7   1.53
.40   Jrue Holiday   Mil   38  .486   13.6   6.0   6.1    .9   2.3   .4   1.02
.38   Giannis A      Mil   18  .511   25.0  12.6   5.2    .4   5.7   .8   2.02

.36   Brook Lopez    Mil   36  .646   16.7   6.1   1.0   1.4   2.2  1.8    .96
.35   Kevin Love     Mia   22  .645   13.1  13.5   1.9   1.0    .3  1.7   1.56
.27   Caleb Martin   Mia   27  .767   14.9   7.9   2.2   1.4   1.4   .0   1.01
.24   Bobby Portis   Mil   21  .565   12.5  13.0   1.6   1.0   1.4   .7   1.11
.24  Pat Connaughton Mil   18  .750   17.4   7.6   2.2   1.5    .8   .4   1.33

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e490
.20  Duncan Robinson Mia   20  .925   18.9   5.4   2.0    .4   2.2   .0    .95
.09   Gabe Vincent   Mia   29  .537   14.8   1.4   5.3    .8   3.2   .0    .32
.07  Victor Oladipo  Mia    9  .561   14.9   6.0   1.3   1.6   1.6   .8    .74
.07   Ha. Highsmith  Mia    7  .611    8.9   6.6    .8   5.2    .0  1.0    .96
.06   Cody Zeller    Mia    7  .714    9.3  12.2   2.3    .9   1.9   .0    .82

.05   Tyler Herro    Mia    4  .667   21.9   4.2   3.2    .0   2.0  1.9   1.40
.05   Kyle Lowry     Mia   21  .551   11.5   4.0   4.3   1.4   3.4   .7    .23
.04   Joe Ingles     Mil   18  .739   13.0   2.2   3.1   1.1   2.4   .4    .24
.04   Grayson Allen  Mil   30  .652   11.5   2.8   1.8    .5   1.0   .0    .13
.00  Wesley Matthews Mil    8  .667    7.7   2.4    .7   1.6    .0   .8   -.04

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e490
-.05  Jae Crowder    Mil    8  .250    2.9   3.2   2.0   1.6    .8   .0   -.60
-.05  Jevon Carter   Mil   10  .278    1.6   2.7   2.3    .7    .0   .0   -.54
-.10  Max Strus      Mia   30  .615    5.5   4.9    .6    .8    .8   .5   -.32
shooting : Mia .619 - .575 Mil
rebounds: Mil 44.4 - 42.6 Mia
turnovers: Mil 14.4 - 14.8 Mia
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Re: 2023 Playoffs, East Conf. round 1

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Giannis really played poorly.

Middleton was ok but not enough. I'd have serious thoughts on not offering the best contract. Sign n trades aren't that common but I'd explore that hard.
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Re: 2023 Playoffs, East Conf. round 1

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Nobody with the Bucks -- player or coach -- has the nerve to tell Giannis to please not drive to the basket with 3-4 defenders in there. He's likely to miss, or get fouled (just as bad). He should have had 15 assists against that defense.
Best case is that he fouls out everyone on the other team, eventually; worst is he gets hurt again.
Sad and painful to watch.

Celtics 4 - 2 Hawks
avg score 121.2 - 115.8
Pyth wins 3.87 - 2.13 , eWins 3.44 - 2.56

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eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.89   Jayson Tatum   Bos   40  .572   23.5   8.9   4.5    .7   2.4  1.1   1.80
.82   Trae Young     Atl   38  .513   24.3   3.5   8.5   1.5   4.0   .6   1.72
.60  Dejounte Murray Atl   32  .535   19.2   6.9   5.7   1.8   2.0   .2   1.53
.60   Jaylen Brown   Bos   38  .608   25.1   4.9   2.7   1.2   3.6   .5   1.27
.54   Marcus Smart   Bos   31  .606   19.1   4.9   5.6   2.1   2.1   .4   1.39

.46   Derrick White  Bos   33  .689   19.4   4.1   3.6    .4   1.6  1.5   1.13
.33  Robert Williams Bos   23  .864   13.9  10.5   2.0   1.5   2.0  1.9   1.14
.30  Bg. Bogdanović  Atl   26  .696   16.2   3.9   2.8   1.2    .7  1.1    .92
.29   Al Horford     Bos   33  .547    5.6   8.2   3.8   1.4   1.0  2.4    .72
.28  Malcolm Brogdon Bos   26  .533   15.3   4.5   5.1    .2   1.3   .2    .87

eWin   per36 rates   tm   mpg   Eff%   Sco   Reb   Ast   Stl   TO   Blk   e480
.27   Clint Capela   Atl   25  .610   10.2  12.1    .6   1.4   1.0   .7    .85
.19  De'Andre Hunter Atl   37  .556   13.2   5.6   1.0    .6   1.5   .3    .40
.13   John Collins   Atl   27  .540   12.2   5.8   1.0    .4   2.1  1.3    .37
.13  Onyeka Okongwu  Atl   22  .600    7.9   9.4   1.5    .5   1.8  2.0    .46
.08   Jalen Johnson  Atl    9  .520   11.9   7.9   3.7   1.5   2.7   .0    .68

.06  Grant Williams  Bos    6  .944   16.5   3.2   2.3   1.8    .9   .0    .79
.06   Saddiq Bey     Atl   22  .506    8.3   5.9   1.3    .7    .5   .0    .21
-.01  Sam Hauser     Bos   11  .708    7.2   4.1    .9    .0    .0   .5   -.05
shooting : Bos .616 - .552 Atl
rebounds: Bos 45.0 - 43.8 Atl
turnovers: 12.8 - 12.8
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Re: 2023 Playoffs, East Conf. round 1

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Giannis is an incredible player, but I think he is probably the most limited high-impact player in the league, and the most easily schemed for. As you say he was awful to watch, taking bad shots or going to the line and choking. Realistically Budenholzer is to blame for what happened in the series, from a Bucks perspective. They should look to hire Nurse.
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Re: 2023 Playoffs, East Conf. round 1

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Game 5, the Bucks were -8 in Giannis' 42 min. Thus +6 in the other 11 minutes.
Crazy stat, though: Miami went -10 in 46 Butler minutes; so +12 in 7 min. he sat.

Def. agree that coach Bud (and his employers) should acknowledge his failure.
Don't most coaches sort of run out of things to say after a few years?
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