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Mike G
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Similarity generator

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Work in progress to find players most similar statistically, based on the Advanced Stats at b-r.com.
Right now it's looking at player-seasons back to 2001-02.
The number produced is a "difference", so smaller is more similar. A player is .00 diff from himself.
Here are a few rookies:

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diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%  3Pr   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Jaime Jaquez   SF   22   Mia  .603   .29   .22   5.0   10.6   13.7   1.7   1.0   12.4   19.6
.34   2023  Jalen Williams  SG   21   OKC  .600   .26   .24   3.9   12.2   15.4   2.1   1.4   12.3   18.4
.35   2006   Bobby Simmons  SF   25   Mil  .582   .31   .25   4.2   11.5   11.2   1.8    .7   12.1   18.3
.46   2014   Ch. Parsons    SF   25   Hou  .585   .36   .22   2.9   12.8   17.3   1.6    .8   11.7   19.3
.48   2021   Jae'Sean Tate  SF   25   Hou  .580   .31   .24   6.6   13.2   13.2   2.0   1.6   12.4   16.4

.48   2018   Jamal Murray   PG   20   Den  .588   .41   .24   3.6    9.4   16.4   1.5    .9   12.8   22.8
.49   2002   Rodney Rogers  SF   30   tot  .590   .31   .20   7.6   13.3   10.5   1.8   1.2   11.6   22.3
.49   2006   Kirk Snyder    SG   22   NOK  .559   .29   .26   4.9    9.9   13.9   1.2   1.4   12.2   20.5
.49   2003  Cuttino Mobley  SG   27   Hou  .568   .30   .26   2.7    8.6   12.2   1.7    .8   12.2   20.6
.50   2003  Wa. Szczerbiak  SF   25   Min  .600   .20   .24   3.4   11.3   12.2   1.3    .9    9.8   22.0


diff   yr     Player        Pos  Age   Tm   aTS%   3Pr  FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Chet Holmgren   C   21   OKC  .648   .35   .30   6.8   21.4   12.0   1.2   8.6   11.3   22.3
.61   2023   Myles Turner    C   26   Ind  .650   .34   .38   5.4   22.9    7.5    .9   6.6   10.8   22.0
.75   2021   Naz Reid        C   21   Min  .603   .30   .29   6.4   20.0    8.7   1.2   4.9    9.5   22.5
.76   2021   Chris Boucher   C   28   Tor  .639   .42   .35   8.5   22.5    6.9   1.2   7.6    6.7   20.5
.85   2024  Jo. Valančiūnas  C   31   NOP  .636   .19   .30   9.6   28.8   13.1   1.0   4.5   12.1   19.9

.85   2023   Jaren Jackson   C   23   Mem  .612   .34   .37   6.4   18.8    5.0   1.7   9.6   10.1   24.7
.86   2024   Kr. Porziņģis   C   28   Bos  .663   .42   .44   5.5   19.0    8.2   1.2   5.1    9.7   23.8
.90   2020   Thomas Bryant   C   22   Was  .658   .22   .28   9.0   23.1   11.1   1.0   3.7   10.2   18.9
.90   2020   John Collins   PF   22   Atl  .668   .24   .25   9.0   24.0    7.6   1.1   4.1   10.1   22.7
.92   2023   Brook Lopez     C   34   Mil  .629   .41   .21   7.2   15.3    6.1    .7   6.7    9.8   19.3


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%  3Pr   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024  Brandon Miller  SF   21   Cha  .545   .41   .15   3.0   10.8   10.5   1.0   1.6   11.1   21.1
.40   2023  Shaedon Sharpe  SG   19   Por  .567   .44   .16   4.0   11.3    7.9   1.0   1.2   10.7   19.0
.43   2024   Klay Thompson  SF   33   GSW  .573   .61   .17   1.9   11.5   10.8    .9   1.4   10.6   23.1
.45   2017   Jamal Murray   SG   19   Den  .531   .47   .16   2.6   10.7   14.0   1.4   1.1   12.6   21.6
.46   2013   Klay Thompson  SG   22   GSW  .556   .44   .13   1.2   10.0   10.1   1.5   1.2   11.0   21.8

.48   2010  Andrés Nocioni  SF   30   Sac  .521   .42   .17   2.5   14.9    8.0   1.1   1.3    9.6   20.9
.48   2023  P.J. Washington PF   24   Cha  .541   .44   .18   3.2   13.0   11.0   1.3   2.9    9.4   20.6
.49   2020   Miles Bridges  SF   21   Cha  .527   .40   .17   4.6   15.6    9.4   1.0   2.2   10.5   20.0
.50   2015  Wesley Johnson  SF   27   LAL  .531   .38   .16   3.2   12.9    8.6   1.3   1.6   10.5   16.4
.50   2014  Wilson Chandler SF   26   Den  .545   .48   .21   3.2   13.3    9.3   1.2   1.2    8.9   19.5


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%  3Pr   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   V Wembanyama   PF   20   SAS  .529   .30   .28   7.9   30.2   15.8   2.0   9.3   15.5   29.6
.80   2013   Tim Duncan      C   36   SAS  .578   .01   .31   7.3   29.6   15.5   1.2   6.4   11.7   27.8
.88   2007   Josh Smith     SF   21   Atl  .524   .15   .39   7.4   21.0   16.3   2.0   6.1   16.3   24.1
.91   2018   Jusuf Nurkić    C   23   Por  .539   .01   .29  10.0   26.9   11.7   1.5   4.3   14.6   26.4
.94   2007  Jermaine O'Neal  C   28   Ind  .518   .01   .39   7.1   24.4   13.0   1.1   5.6   13.2   28.1

0.97  2006   Marcus Camby    C   31   Den  .520   .02   .24   8.4   33.3   10.2   2.2   7.5   11.4   19.5
1.06  2016   Pau Gasol       C   35   Chi  .548   .07   .29   7.3   28.7   21.7    .9   4.7   12.8   24.6
1.07  2010   Andrew Bogut    C   25   Mil  .558   .00   .26  10.1   26.4   10.3    .9   6.2   11.4   23.3
1.08  2014   Kyle O'Quinn    C   23   Orl  .545   .01   .22   9.5   25.2   10.9   1.7   5.8   16.1   18.6
1.09  2022   Anthony Davis   C   28   LAL  .585   .10   .35   8.1   22.0   14.7   1.7   5.7    9.3   27.1
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
I've only included the most-similar season for each player listed, and only >1000 minutes (unless this season).
Yeah, Klay got in twice; but it's interesting how far apart in age yet most similar.
aTS% is adjusted for league TS% in that year -- relative to this year's .580
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Re: Similarity generator

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Nobody past much like Holmgren and Wembanyama. How similar to each other here?
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Re: Similarity generator

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Victor's line was already sitting in my similizer subject line, and Holmgren'24 is the 136th closest player-season. Of course there are multiple seasons of certain players above him.

Putting Holmgren as the subject, Wemby is all the way down at #544; diff = 1.35. This means Wemby is the more unique player; Chet is more like a lot of guys.
It's also from a sample of almost 10k player-seasons; so top 5.5% most-alike.
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Re: Similarity generator

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A few more randos.

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diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Tyrese Maxey   PG   23   Phl   .594   .29   1.7    9.7   26.4   1.0   1.3    6.3   26.7
.56   2023   Jalen Brunson  PG   26   NYK   .596   .33   1.8    9.3   28.7   1.3    .6    9.4   27.2
.58   2020   Kemba Walker   PG   29   Bos   .583   .27   2.2   11.0   24.2   1.3   1.5   10.5   27.2
.60   2023   Kyrie Irving  PG-SG 30   tot   .612   .23   3.0   12.3   25.4   1.4   1.7    8.8   28.9
.62   2019   Derrick Rose   PG   30   Min   .567   .21   2.5    8.3   26.4   1.1    .7    9.1   27.3

.68   2021  Brandon Ingram  SF   23   NOP   .588   .29   1.8   13.7   22.4   1.0   1.6   11.0   28.0
.70   2009   Vince Carter   SG   32   NJN   .563   .31   3.0   13.8   23.7   1.5   1.1    9.8   26.8
.71   2023  Sp. Dinwiddie  SG-PG 29   tot   .572   .31   1.2   10.2   28.1   1.2    .8   10.8   22.1
.72   2022   Devin Booker   SG   25   Phx   .583   .26   2.1   13.2   22.4   1.6   1.0    9.3   32.0
.72   2012   Lou Williams   PG   25   Phl   .551   .37   2.0    8.3   22.4   1.7    .8    7.2   27.4


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Nikola Jokić    C   28   Den   .629   .33  10.3   29.6   44.0   1.7   2.2   11.6   30.1
.82   2018   LeBron James   PF   33   Cle   .634   .34   3.7   22.3   44.4   1.9   2.0   16.1   31.6
.92   2024  Alperen Şengün   C   21   Hou   .595   .33   9.2   21.8   27.3   1.6   2.3   12.3   27.3
.92   2005   Kevin Garnett  PF   28   Min   .594   .40   9.5   30.2   27.1   2.1   2.6   12.2   27.1
.94   2024   Luka Dončić    PG   24   Dal   .618   .36   2.4   22.8   43.0   1.8   1.5   12.8   35.7

1.00  2024   Do. Sabonis     C   27   Sac   .636   .43  10.1   28.7   32.0   1.1   1.5   15.7   22.4
1.00  2020   Giannis A      PF   25   Mil   .621   .51   7.7   34.8   34.2   1.5   3.0   13.2   37.5
1.09  2020   Karl-A Towns    C   24   Min   .651   .36   8.1   26.1   22.8   1.3   2.9   13.2   28.8
1.10  2021   James Harden   PG   31   tot   .622   .44   2.5   20.6   44.4   1.6   1.8   16.8   28.4
1.14  2021   Bam Adebayo     C   23   Mia   .631   .44   7.7   22.6   26.9   1.7   3.2   15.0   23.7


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Jalen Brunson  PG   27   NYK   .592   .30   2.3   10.4   27.6   1.5   .4    9.8   28.7
.32   2018   Kemba Walker   PG   27   Cha   .584   .31   1.2    8.7   27.4   1.6   .7   10.4   27.4
.34   2023   De'Aaron Fox   PG   25   Sac   .598   .33   1.9   12.4   29.6   1.6   .8   10.6   30.1
.38   2015  Damian Lillard  PG   24   Por   .584   .29   1.8   11.8   29.0   1.7   .5   12.6   26.9
.39   2023   Devin Booker   SG   26   Phx   .600   .34   2.7   12.0   27.3   1.4   .9   10.6   31.8

.41   2021   Do. Mitchell   PG   24   Uta   .573   .29   3.1   10.6   26.7   1.4   .7   10.7   33.5
.44   2007   Joe Johnson    SG   25   Atl   .578   .28   2.7    9.6   21.8   1.4   .4   12.1   28.3
.46   2024  Anfernee Simons SG   24   Por   .594   .23   2.0    8.6   28.2   1.3   .2    9.4   30.9
.47   2004   Ray Allen      SG   28   Sea   .601   .27   3.8   11.8   23.3   1.8   .4   12.1   27.8
.48   2002   Sam Cassell    PG   32   Mil   .576   .27   2.5   10.9   34.3   1.8   .3   11.7   27.3


diff   yr      Player      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024    Giannis A     PF   29   Mil   .648   .60   8.9   25.2   26.7   1.8   2.7   13.6   33.5
.60   2022   Joel Embiid     C   27   Phl   .624   .60   7.2   31.1   23.5   1.7   3.9   11.3   37.2
.67   2023  Zion Williamson PF   22   NOP   .651   .53   6.9   17.0   24.4   1.6   1.6   14.6   30.4
.86   2014   Blake Griffin  PF   24   LAC   .604   .50   7.7   21.2   19.2   1.6   1.4   11.9   29.0
.87   2017   DeM. Cousins    C   26   tot   .576   .47   7.0   29.2   25.8   2.0   3.4   13.5   36.5

.91   2021   Bam Adebayo     C   23   Mia   .631   .44   7.7   22.6   26.9   1.7   3.2   15.0   23.7
.93   2012   LeBron James   SF   27   Mia   .635   .43   5.0   19.7   33.6   2.6   1.7   13.3   32.0
.95   2011   Dwyane Wade    SG   29   Mia   .602   .47   5.5   14.4   23.5   2.1   2.4   12.4   31.6
.95   2013   Kevin Durant   SF   24   OKC   .675   .52   1.8   20.3   21.7   1.9   2.6   13.7   29.8
.98   2007   Tim Duncan      C   30   SAS   .600   .50   9.8   27.0   18.8   1.3   5.1   14.0   27.9


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Pascal Siakam  PF   29   Tor   .580   .36   4.8   16.4   22.8   1.2    .5   11.0   25.4
.39   2008   Vince Carter   SG   31   NJN   .570   .33   4.4   13.4   25.2   1.6    .9   10.9   25.6
.49   2022  Malcolm Brogdon PG   29   Ind   .564   .31   3.0   14.3   26.9   1.2   1.0   11.1   24.6
.50   2015   Rudy Gay       SF   28   Sac   .580   .35   4.8   13.7   19.0   1.5   1.3   12.4   27.0
.52   2008   Hedo Türkoğlu  SF   28   Orl   .597   .32   3.3   14.2   22.9   1.3    .6   15.0   24.8

.53   2017   Blake Griffin  PF   27   LAC   .583   .43   6.2   20.2   24.5   1.4    .9   10.9   28.0
.53   2010   Brandon Roy    SG   25   Por   .587   .42   3.7   10.9   23.1   1.4    .5    9.5   26.7
.56   2016  Carmelo Anthony SF   31   NYK   .549   .31   4.3   19.5   21.9   1.3   1.1   10.6   29.7
.58   2017  Gordon Hayward  SF   26   Uta   .610   .37   2.3   15.4   18.2   1.5    .6    9.4   27.6
.59   2024  Keldon Johnson  SF   24   SAS   .568   .27   4.3   16.7   18.2   1.3    .6   10.1   22.2
.59   2024   Franz Wagner   SF   22   Orl   .560   .30   3.5   16.4   18.4   1.7   1.0    8.9   25.6
Some more 22 and unders, not rookies:

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diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024  Paolo Banchero  PF   21   Orl   .545   .42   4.0   19.2   21.3   1.4   1.6   13.6   28.2
.46   2005   Ri. Jefferson  SF   24   NJN   .563   .48   4.3   17.2   19.0   1.3   1.0   16.2   28.2
.47   2004   Lamar Odom     PF   24   Mia   .548   .41   6.1   24.2   20.6   1.5   1.9   15.1   24.5
.50   2017   Paul Millsap   PF   31   Atl   .556   .42   5.3   19.5   17.9   1.9   2.3   12.1   24.4
.52   2009  Carmelo Anthony SF   24   Den   .549   .39   5.6   17.0   18.1   1.7    .8   12.3   31.5

.53   2024   Cole Anthony   PG   23   Orl   .568   .37   4.9   15.1   21.9   1.5   1.6   12.3   24.3
.53   2004   Paul Pierce    SG   26   Bos   .549   .42   2.6   16.4   25.1   2.2   1.3   14.6   30.5
.55   2023   Pascal Siakam  PF   28   Tor   .564   .36   5.2   19.6   24.9   1.2   1.3   10.0   27.2
.60   2015   Rudy Gay       SF   28   Sac   .580   .35   4.8   13.7   19.0   1.5   1.3   12.4   27.0
.61   1997   Tom Gugliotta  PF   27   Min   .548   .42   7.1   19.3   19.3   2.2   2.1   15.6   27.5


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024  Shaedon Sharpe  SG   20   Por   .534   .28   4.0   13.7   14.1   1.3    .9   14.1   21.9
.39   2007   Hedo Türkoğlu  SF   27   Orl   .547   .27   3.2   12.5   17.9   1.6    .6   13.5   21.7
.40   2007   Devin Brown    SG   28   NOK   .557   .28   3.7   13.9   14.8   1.4    .4   12.7   19.6
.41   2023   Naji Marshall  SF   25   NOP   .538   .31   3.0   14.6   14.4   1.5    .7   13.0   17.8
.42   2013   Alec Burks     SG   21   Uta   .529   .33   3.8   11.2   13.0   1.6    .9   14.3   20.7

.44   1997  Michael Finley  SF   23   tot   .552   .23   3.6   11.9   14.3   1.3    .7   12.2   22.0
.45   2006   Mike Dunleavy  SF   25   GSW   .524   .31   3.3   14.2   15.0   1.2    .9   11.5   18.1
.46   2021   RJ Barrett     SG   20   NYK   .539   .26   3.0   14.8   13.8   1.1    .8   10.5   23.4
.47   2004   Dion Glover    SG   25   tot   .500   .27   4.0   14.2   14.0   1.6    .9   13.4   21.2
.47   2005   Luol Deng      SF   19   Chi   .520   .25   6.2   15.4   14.8   1.5   1.2   14.1   22.4


diff   yr     Player        Pos  Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024  Alperen Şengün   C   21   Hou   .595   .33   9.2   21.8   27.3   1.6   2.3   12.3   27.3
.46   2003   Kevin Garnett  PF   26   Min   .585   .34   8.6   28.5   25.8   1.8   2.8   11.9   26.4
.53   2022   Pascal Siakam  PF   27   Tor   .572   .31   5.1   20.1   23.0   1.6   1.6   11.6   25.8
.58   2018   Nikola Jokić    C   22   Den   .616   .31   9.0   27.9   29.6   1.8   2.1   15.5   24.2
.60   2002   Chris Webber   PF   28   Sac   .571   .31   7.9   20.1   21.9   2.2   2.4   11.4   29.0

.63   2021   Karl-A Towns    C   25   Min   .616   .36   8.2   26.4   22.6   1.1   2.9   13.7   29.1
.65   2024  Scottie Barnes  SG   22   Tor   .587   .25   8.2   21.5   25.4   2.1   3.6   12.5   24.7
.65   2013   Blake Griffin  PF   23   LAC   .596   .40   8.7   21.5   19.9   2.0   1.6   12.8   25.4
.66   1993  Charles Barkley PF   29   Phx   .621   .42   9.5   26.3   21.2   2.0   1.6   12.5   26.9
.67   1992  Scottie Pippen  SF   26   Chi   .581   .32   6.9   15.8   25.8   2.5   1.8   14.0   24.6


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Jeremy Sochan  PG   20   SAS   .514   .21   5.7   15.3   19.1   1.0    .8   16.9   18.3
.47   2009   Luke Walton    SF   28   LAL   .507   .19   5.4   12.0   21.1   1.4    .7   17.2   15.1
.48   1992   Rodney McCray  SF   30   Dal   .514   .25   7.3   16.6   15.7   1.2    .9   14.3   16.4
.52   2008   Boris Diaw     PF   25   Phx   .535   .20   5.2   12.7   19.0   1.3   1.1   18.1   16.6
.54   1994   Ken Norman     SF   29   Mil   .514   .20   7.2   15.9   14.3   1.2   1.2   13.0   19.6

.59   1993   Brian Shaw     PG   26   Mia   .484   .16   4.9   13.7   22.3   1.5    .8   15.2   17.1
.60   2017   Evan Turner    SF   28   Por   .503   .19   2.4   14.2   18.4   1.6   1.2   14.3   18.5
.60   2018 Lance Stephenson SG   27   Ind   .506   .18   3.8   22.0   18.6   1.2    .8   14.6   21.6
.61   1993  George McCloud  SF   25   Ind   .516   .19   4.4   10.5   18.0   1.8    .5   15.8   19.1
.61   2019  Justise Winslow SF   22   Mia   .522   .18   3.4   15.9   21.9   1.8    .9   14.9   20.8


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Jalen Green    SG   21   Hou   .531   .32   1.3   14.4   15.8    .9   1.1   12.2   26.6
.44   2022   RJ Barrett     SF   21   NYK   .517   .34   2.9   15.5   14.9    .9    .7    9.9   27.6
.54   2024   Mikal Bridges  SF   27   Brk   .570   .31   3.1   13.3   16.3   1.3   1.1   11.4   25.9
.56   2024   Zach LaVine    SG   28   Chi   .566   .28   1.0   15.0   15.2   1.3    .7    9.7   25.5
.57   2017  Sean Kilpatrick SG   27   Brk   .560   .33   1.3   15.4   14.6   1.2    .3   13.8   23.8

.58   2023  Keldon Johnson  SF   23   SAS   .550   .29   2.9   14.4   13.7   1.1    .4    9.6   27.9
.60   2017  Carmelo Anthony SF   32   NYK   .548   .26   2.6   16.0   14.5   1.2   1.1    9.0   29.1
.62   2012  Andrea Bargnani  C   26   Tor   .565   .36   2.8   16.6   11.6    .9   1.2   11.0   28.7
.62   2016   Devin Booker   SG   19   Phx   .554   .30   1.4    8.4   15.8   1.0    .8   14.0   23.0
.62   2010   Vince Carter   SG   33   Orl   .560   .30   1.7   12.6   17.8   1.2    .6    8.4   25.2


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%  Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Jabari Smith   PF   20   Hou   .603   .22   7.2   23.1   7.5    .9   2.5    9.4   17.8
.34   2005   Raef LaFrentz  PF   28   Bos   .615   .22   8.4   20.8   7.3   1.0   3.4    8.5   16.9
.47   2022   John Collins   PF   24   Atl   .618   .26   6.2   21.5   8.9   1.0   3.0    7.7   20.5
.48   2016  Marvin Williams PF   29   Cha   .606   .19   5.9   18.6   7.6   1.2   2.7    7.1   16.8
.49   2017   Ma. Speights    C   29   LAC   .599   .25   7.9   24.1   8.0    .9   2.6   10.2   23.6

.50   2018   Trey Lyles     PF   22   Den   .604   .26   4.5   23.5  10.1   1.1   2.0    9.1   21.1
.51   2019  Nikola Mirotić  PF   27   tot   .595   .23   5.1   22.6   6.2   1.2   2.2    7.4   21.4
.52   2023   Santi Aldama   PF   22   Mem   .590   .27   5.4   18.0   7.6   1.3   2.6    9.3   16.0
.52   2018   Mike Muscala    C   26   Atl   .610   .20   5.9   18.3   7.3   1.4   2.2   11.0   15.7
.53   2021   Daniel Theis    C   28   tot   .613   .24   6.5   18.3   9.5   1.2   3.3   11.4   15.6


diff   yr     Player       Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   2024   Be. Mathurin   SF   21   Ind   .554   .29   5.1   12.4   10.1   1.1    .6   11.2   22.6
.35   2011   Luol Deng      SF   25   Chi   .569   .29   4.4   12.8   11.9   1.3   1.1   10.7   20.9
.38   2008  Boštjan Nachbar PF   27   NJN   .551   .32   3.9   14.3    9.3   1.4   1.0   10.9   21.5
.39   2004   Tim Thomas     SF   26   tot   .567   .27   3.5   13.9   10.4   1.6    .7   11.3   22.4
.39   2016   Marcus Morris  SF   26   Det   .550   .29   3.3   12.4   11.0   1.2    .6   11.6   18.4

.40   2009   Jeff Green     PF   22   OKC   .554   .29   4.7   16.3    9.1   1.4    .8   12.6   21.2
.43   2020   Eric Paschall  PF   23   GSW   .579   .33   5.2   13.1   12.7    .9    .7   11.4   21.4
.44   2002   Chris Mills    SF   32   GSW   .546   .25   4.3   12.4    9.5   1.3    .7   10.6   18.0
.44   2005  Keith Van Horn SF-PF 29   tot   .576   .28   6.8   15.6    8.5   1.3   1.0   11.3   21.5
.44   2005   Hedo Türkoğlu  SF   25   Orl   .557   .29   4.0   10.7   14.9   1.2    .7   11.9   24.8
Comps expanded back to 1992 season.
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Re: Similarity generator

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Most similar this season only. Minimum 400 minutes.
Atlanta Hawks:

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diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   Trae Young     PG   25   Atl   .589   .39   1.5    7.8   45.7   1.8    .4   15.2   31.4
.93   Devin Booker   PG   27   Phx   .600   .40   2.9   13.4   38.5    .9   1.1   11.3   30.8
1.05  De'Aaron Fox   PG   26   Sac   .604   .35   3.0   11.6   30.0   2.3    .9    9.5   33.3
1.06  Darius Garland PG   24   Cle   .573   .28   2.0    7.0   26.8   2.3    .5   17.4   27.7
1.06  Ca. Cunningham PG   22   Det   .545   .24   1.6   11.8   33.3   1.5    .8   15.8   30.3

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00  Dejounte Murray SG   27   Atl   .553   .17   2.4   12.3   22.2   2.1    .9   10.6   24.2
.56   Paul George    PF   33   LAC   .585   .21   2.3   15.2   17.9   2.2    .9   10.3   27.2
.63   Jaylen Brown   SF   27   Bos   .570   .21   3.1   12.5   17.2   1.6   1.6   11.3   28.7
.65  Reggie Jackson  PG   33   Den   .556   .13   1.6    8.1   25.8   1.3    .7   12.4   22.6
.66   Caris LeVert   SG   29   Cle   .512   .24   1.8   11.2   19.5   1.7   1.2    9.1   24.3

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   Saddiq Bey     SF   24   Atl   .573   .21   7.6   14.4    5.5   1.7    .3    9.0   15.8
.69   Rui Hachimura  PF   25   LAL   .579   .21   3.6   13.0    6.7   1.4    .8    7.3   20.1
.72   Kelly Oubre    SF   28   Phl   .585   .23   4.3   12.9    4.0   2.1   1.2    7.0   19.4
.72   Moses Moody    SG   21   GSW   .589   .28   7.1   12.0    7.0   1.8   1.6    9.6   17.9
.79   Torrey Craig   SF   33   Chi   .553   .17   9.3   16.3    6.7   1.5   1.8    9.7   12.6

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00  Bog. Bogdanović SG   31   Atl   .591   .12   1.9   11.3   14.0   2.1    .8    6.5   23.0
.57   Devin Vassell  SG   23   SAS   .578   .20   1.5   10.8   16.0   1.9    .6    7.5   23.6
.71  Cameron Johnson PF   27   Brk   .609   .15   4.7   13.3   12.5   1.3    .4    7.8   19.6
.80   Kevin Huerter  SG   25   Sac   .547   .09   2.6   15.0   15.0   1.3   1.1    6.4   17.7
.81  Do. DiVincenzo  SG   27   NYK   .619   .13   3.6   11.5   12.4   2.5   1.3   11.1   17.9

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%   DRb%   Ast%  Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   Clint Capela    C   29   Atl   .623   .32   19.7   24.5   6.2   1.2   5.5    8.5   16.5
.75   Mark Williams   C   22   Cha   .675   .42   16.1   24.9   6.4   1.5   3.5    8.7   16.6
.77   Ivica Zubac     C   26   LAC   .650   .34   13.9   25.5   6.3    .4   4.7   11.1   17.2
.77   Nic Claxton     C   24   Brk   .640   .31   11.5   25.7   8.7    .7   8.3    9.1   15.4
1.08  Onyeka Okongwu  C   23   Atl   .654   .33   10.4   19.7   7.8   1.0   3.2    9.6   13.5

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%   DRb%  Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00  Onyeka Okongwu   C   23   Atl   .654   .33   10.4   19.7   7.8   1.0   3.2    9.6   13.5
.90   Jabari Smith   PF   20   Hou   .603   .22    7.2   23.1   7.5    .9   2.5    9.4   17.8
.94   Moritz Wagner   C   26   Orl   .666   .34    9.2   17.3  10.3   1.1   1.7   13.4   22.1
.95  Jo. Valančiūnas  C   31   NOP   .636   .30    9.6   28.8  13.1   1.0   4.5   12.1   19.9
.99   Mark Williams   C   22   Cha   .675   .42   16.1   24.9   6.4   1.5   3.5    8.7   16.6

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00  De'Andre Hunter SF   26   Atl   .601   .28   2.2   12.9    6.1   1.3   1.1   11.0   18.9
.63   Norman Powell  SG   30   LAC   .638   .27    .7    9.2    5.6   1.1   1.5    8.4   19.0
.65   Moses Moody    SG   21   GSW   .589   .28   7.1   12.0    7.0   1.8   1.6    9.6   17.9
.65   Rui Hachimura  PF   25   LAL   .579   .21   3.6   13.0    6.7   1.4    .8    7.3   20.1
.70   Tobias Harris  PF   31   Phl   .608   .25   3.1   16.4   12.6   1.5   1.2   10.7   19.7

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
.00   Jalen Johnson  SF   22   Atl   .661   .24   5.2   23.7   11.8   1.7   2.7   16.7   17.2
.88  Bilal Coulibaly SF   19   Was   .625   .27   3.0   13.8    8.5   1.6   2.0   17.6   13.6
.90   Alex Caruso    SG   29   Chi   .671   .22   5.2   11.7   14.2   2.5   3.2   15.8   15.8
.92  Jo. Valančiūnas  C   31   NOP   .636   .30   9.6   28.8   13.1   1.0   4.5   12.1   19.9
.92   Evan Mobley    PF   22   Cle   .607   .26   8.9   25.8   13.0   1.2   4.5   14.8   19.9
Trae is their most unique player; DeJ is least unique
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Re: Similarity generator

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tough crowd
Current players most similar to former stars, back to 1992; highest BPM season for each retired player.

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diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
1994  David Robinson  C   28   SAS   .605   .56   8.8   20.3   21.6   2.3   5.4   10.9   32.0
.87   Giannis A      PF   29   Mil   .648   .60   8.9   25.2   26.7   1.8   2.7   13.6   33.5
.92   Bam Adebayo     C   26   Mia   .577   .44   6.8   27.0   19.7   1.6   2.7   12.0   27.8
.98   Anthony Davis   C   30   LAL   .613   .40  10.8   26.3   14.3   1.5   6.3    8.8   27.1
.99   Joel Embiid     C   29   Phl   .651   .53   9.2   28.5   31.7   1.6   5.0   12.5   37.9
 

diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
1993 Michael Jordan  SG   29   Chi   .587   .28   4.9   15.1   25.2   3.7   1.3    8.4   34.7
.69   Do. Mitchell   SG   27   Cle   .584   .28   3.3   13.7   25.9   2.5   1.2    9.8   31.4
.86   De'Aaron Fox   PG   26   Sac   .604   .35   3.0   11.6   30.0   2.3    .9    9.5   33.3
.87   Shai G-A       PG   25   OKC   .644   .40   2.9   14.9   31.0   3.8   2.3    7.6   32.9
.96  Anthony Edwards SG   22   Min   .577   .33   2.2   15.0   25.7   2.0   1.3   12.8   32.4


diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
2009  Dwyane Wade    SG   27   Mia   .593   .44   3.5   12.2   40.3   3.0   2.8   11.6   36.2
.88   Shai G-A       PG   25   OKC   .644   .40   2.9   14.9   31.0   3.8   2.3    7.6   32.9
.97   De'Aaron Fox   PG   26   Sac   .604   .35   3.0   11.6   30.0   2.3    .9    9.5   33.3
1.05  Luka Dončić    PG   24   Dal   .618   .36   2.4   22.8   43.0   1.8   1.5   12.8   35.7
1.09  LeBron James   PF   39   LAL   .635   .33   3.2   20.5   35.9   2.0   1.8   14.3   29.3


diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
2003  Tracy McGrady  SG   23   Orl   .597   .40   4.6   14.6   30.0   2.2   1.5    8.4   35.2
.49   De'Aaron Fox   PG   26   Sac   .604   .35   3.0   11.6   30.0   2.3    .9    9.5   33.3
.71   Do. Mitchell   SG   27   Cle   .584   .28   3.3   13.7   25.9   2.5   1.2    9.8   31.4
.73  Anthony Edwards SG   22   Min   .577   .33   2.2   15.0   25.7   2.0   1.3   12.8   32.4
.80   Shai G-A       PG   25   OKC   .644   .40   2.9   14.9   31.0   3.8   2.3    7.6   32.9


diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
2004  Kevin Garnett  PF   27   Min   .581   .29   9.1   30.0   24.4   2.0   4.0   10.5   29.6
.75   Alperen Şengün  C   21   Hou   .595   .33   9.2   21.8   27.3   1.6   2.3   12.3   27.3
.82   Bam Adebayo     C   26   Mia   .577   .44   6.8   27.0   19.7   1.6   2.7   12.0   27.8
.87  Scottie Barnes  SG   22   Tor   .587   .25   8.2   21.5   25.4   2.1   3.6   12.5   24.7
1.01  Anthony Davis   C   30   LAL   .613   .40  10.8   26.3   14.3   1.5   6.3    8.8   27.1


diff   2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
2000  Shaq. O'Neal    C   27   LAL   .610   .50  11.5   24.8   19.3    .6   5.3    9.9   31.2
.85   Anthony Davis   C   30   LAL   .613   .40  10.8   26.3   14.3   1.5   6.3    8.8   27.1
.99   Bam Adebayo     C   26   Mia   .577   .44   6.8   27.0   19.7   1.6   2.7   12.0   27.8
1.21  Giannis A      PF   29   Mil   .648   .60   8.9   25.2   26.7   1.8   2.7   13.6   33.5
1.21  Joel Embiid     C   29   Phl   .651   .53   9.2   28.5   31.7   1.6   5.0   12.5   37.9


diff    2023-24     Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
2005  An. Kirilenko  PF   23   Uta   .628   .62   8.0   15.7   17.4   2.7   8.5   14.4   21.3
1.20   Goga Bitadze   C   24   Orl   .637   .45  12.4   21.0   11.6   1.6   7.7   13.1   13.6
1.40   Anthony Davis  C   30   LAL   .613   .40  10.8   26.3   14.3   1.5   6.3    8.8   27.1
1.44   Kr. Porziņģis  C   28   Bos   .663   .44   5.5   19.0    8.2   1.2   5.1    9.7   23.8
1.51   Chet Holmgren  C   21   OKC   .648   .30   6.8   21.4   12.0   1.2   8.6   11.3   22.3


diff    2023-24     Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
1995  John Stockton  PG   32   Uta   .673   .39   2.6    8.0   52.6   3.5    .6   22.4   18.9
1.48   James Harden  SG   34   LAC   .651   .47   1.2   14.1   31.7   2.0   2.4   16.0   20.4
1.49   Trae Young    PG   25   Atl   .589   .39   1.5    7.8   45.7   1.8    .4   15.2   31.4
1.63   Kelly Olynyk   C   32   Uta   .666   .30   7.3   19.9   28.5   1.9   1.2   22.8   14.5
1.63  Ty. Haliburton PG   23   Ind   .640   .24   2.1   11.3   49.9   1.3   1.3   12.1   26.6
This last one suggests to me that TO% is not always a meaningful number.
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Re: Similarity generator

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Modest reader levels, few who will engage. The way it is.


Few close similarity scores in absolute terms.

SGA nowhere close to Jordan, except for all but a few others.

Similarity scored compared to last few decades of players is fine, interesting to those with historical perspective. Similarity to current or last 5 years of comps is another smaller survey, perhaps more appealing to some.

I assume assigned primary position was not a selection criteria. I tend to want comps no more than 1 position different but I can pay attention to the ones that do that and don't have to dwell on the others.
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Re: Similarity generator

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"position" is arbitrary, depending on what the coach says. If a guard rebounds and blocks shots like a center, they may be doing a similar job.
At one time b-r.com did a similarity with stats and included Height and Age. Nobody else was considered.
It's interesting to me when players of same or different size and age and position are doing a similar job. If a younger player is more like older counterparts, he probably has unusually good shooting, PF and TO rates.

Attention span of one year or 5 or 50 can be accommodated. One sheet is just this season -- but it's continually needing updated.
I like when the diff number is such that a diff of 1 or 2 would be a positional difference of 1 or 2. There are more unique players that don't quite fit a single pos. Doncic, Kirilenko, LeBron ... but diff <.60 or so would be essentially interchangeable in a lineup, perhaps.

TO% as TO/possessions "used" should be adjusted to account for Assists -- which also finished a possession, and successfully. That's my next intervention.
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Re: Similarity generator

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OK, replacing TOV% with TO/100 possessions. This year's similars to prime Stockton:

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diff    2023-24      Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%  aTO   Usg%
1995   John Stockton  PG   32   Uta   .673   .39   2.6    8.0   52.6   3.5    .6   4.8   18.9
1.36   James Harden   SG   34   LAC   .651   .47   1.2   14.1   31.7   2.0   2.4   3.7   20.4
1.37   T. Haliburton  PG   23   Ind   .640   .24   2.1   11.3   49.9   1.3   1.3   3.6   26.6
1.38   Trae Young     PG   25   Atl   .589   .39   1.5    7.8   45.7   1.8    .4   5.4   31.4
1.55   LeBron James   PF   39   LAL   .635   .33   3.2   20.5   35.9   2.0   1.8   4.7   29.3

1.59   Shai G-A       PG   25   OKC   .644   .40   2.9   14.9   31.0   3.8   2.3   2.8   32.9
1.62   De'Aaron Fox   PG   26   Sac   .604   .35   3.0   11.6   30.0   2.3    .9   3.6   33.3
1.63   Kelly Olynyk    C   32   Uta   .666   .30   7.3   19.9   28.5   1.9   1.2   3.7   14.5
1.69  Damian Lillard  PG   33   Mil   .623   .48   1.9   11.4   27.2   1.3    .5   3.8   28.3
1.70  Darius Garland  PG   24   Cle   .573   .28   2.0    7.0   26.8   2.3    .5   5.5   27.7
The diffs are now smaller, which is good; it means the correlators are more on target.
Earlier version:

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diff    2023-24     Pos   Age   Tm   aTS%   FTr   ORb%  DRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%   TO%   Usg%
1995  John Stockton  PG   32   Uta   .673   .39   2.6    8.0   52.6   3.5    .6   22.4   18.9
1.48   James Harden  SG   34   LAC   .651   .47   1.2   14.1   31.7   2.0   2.4   16.0   20.4
1.49   Trae Young    PG   25   Atl   .589   .39   1.5    7.8   45.7   1.8    .4   15.2   31.4
1.63   Kelly Olynyk   C   32   Uta   .666   .30   7.3   19.9   28.5   1.9   1.2   22.8   14.5
1.63  Ty. Haliburton PG   23   Ind   .640   .24   2.1   11.3   49.9   1.3   1.3   12.1   26.6
Olynyk still appears but lower. The others all have lower TS% and higher Usg% than Stock.
Everyone differs majorly in at least 2 columns.
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Re: Similarity generator

Post by Crow »

Another similarity calculator:

https://craftednba.com/similarity
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